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You wouldn't think the Nation's capital would have any problem voting.

But it wasn't until 50 years ago on this date for them to get the vote with the ratification of the 23rd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

Not much fanfare about it considering it is a major anniversary.

"A number of electors of President and Vice President equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives in Congress to which the District would be entitled if it were a State..."

The amendment allows residents of Washington D.C. to vote for presidential and vice presidential candidates, but still doesn't grant district residents voting representation in Congress.

You can't have everything.

It's one of the few amendments there's not much controversy about but maybe we can stir some up.

While many southern states didn't ratify it at the time, Arkansas was the only state to actually reject it, with Rep. Marion Crank living up to his name saying:

“They propose to create another state. Giving them electors is the first step.”

Technically, the 1964 election was the first election that district residents voted for president and vice president with their three electoral votes.

Originally 100 sq mi, the site was chosen by President George Washington and became the seat of the federal government by 1800. In a complicated process part of the district of Alexandria, Va. was retroceded to Virginia in 1847, which reduced the federal district to 68 sq miles.

It was called "The Territory of Columbia" after the man some thought we should have named the country after. Later, territory gave way to "District."

Now about this statehood thing.

Every now and then the District is not satisfied with its current status and wants to pass a resolution to call themselves "New Columbia," the 51st state in the Union — which would give the citizens of Washington, D.C. full representation in the United States Congress and their own local affairs.

Seems they have the best of both worlds now.

They can vote, though their small electorate vote probably won't determine the election, and they can say, whoever is in Congress, don't blame us.

J. Peterman

 

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March 29, 2011 12:22 AM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...

 Le papillon lune est morte.

March 29, 2011 3:33 AM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

C'est la vie, No!!!
 
 
DC cannot become a State ... The District must be Neutral in all aspects, in order to preclude the appearance of disparity in any and all decisions made ... And, we cannot afford to have the appearance, or the Fact, that all the other States are Financing the existence of the One, and if DC becomes a State, we shall have a whole nuter set of Tax(ing) Problems to deal with, and well as a gigantic number of changes that would have to be made on a myriad of Legal issues ... Because a Truth was unknown, in times past, doesn't lessen or invalidate it while it is unknown ... upon discovery, if that Truth clearly indicates that certain actions ought not be done and are therefore illegal and/or immoral, whatever decisions were made regarding those actions in the past must necessarily be changed and/or Amended ... Where is Lawyer Bert ???  I think, it is something like, "Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc ..." I Think ... I am not a Lawyer, only a hired Gun ... But DC  MUST remain Neutral ... Make it a State, and it won't be, and the Interpretors will really have a Field Day ... and the Fourth Reich will have another Stadt Stadt, like Berlin ... Aren't things bad enough now ???

March 29, 2011 4:25 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Comme je suis triste! Le pauvre papillion! However, reading all about them on korthal's excellent links, the beautiful winged stage of their life-cycle is for one thing, and one thing only. They have no mouth parts. No eating. Limited lifespan.
Today's topic is way out of my sphere of knowlege. Most of you are tucked up in bed and are yet to groan when you see Politics. I will have to make a nice breakfast to console myself.

March 29, 2011 7:29 AM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Lynn830 said...

Actually, there are ways in which the District of Columbia could be made a state.  You could separate most of the District into a separate state, keeping the federal area separate.  The actual governmental area is quite compact and the whole thing is possible.  The real problem, in my mind, is the history of the area since they were given Home Rule about forty years ago.  Before that, the whole thing was governed by Congress and to some degree still is.  The first mayor, Walter Washington, did well though not spectacularly.  He was followed by Marion Barry, the prince of crack.  And the voters in the District have irresponsibly believed his every lie and have elected him to whatever office he chose to run, first mayor and now city councilman.  The District's budget is a perpetual mess and the schools are some of the worst in the nation.  I think the real opposition to statehood is that no one wants these people in any real positions of power at the national level.  Would you want to see Marion Barry at a National Governors Conference?  Or someone like him in the Senate?  For a while Walter Fauntroy was the shadow congressman, having every power but a vote on the floor.  In ratings of effectiveness he was regularly rated as the laziest man in the House of Representatives.  While we could argue about neutrality, which the District now is not, the real political reason, in my observation, is that no one trusts them.

March 29, 2011 7:36 AM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Lynn830 said...

And totally aside, our cherry trees are about to burst into blossom.  We have two ornamental cherry trees in our front yard, Yoshino cherry trees, and their blossoms in the spring are heavenly, sort of an arboreal white cloud.  However, the weather is due to turn poor tomorrow and stay that way through Saturday, and the rain and snow may beat the blossoms off the trees.  I hope not.  However, they are a harbinger of real spring.  What usually happens is that the leaves pushing out push the blossoms off the tree, so we are then rewarded with the return of green.  The larger trees already have the haze of green of early spring, new leaves slowly appearing.  How nice to have winter going.  One last gasp over the next few days and then, I hope, real Spring.

March 29, 2011 8:43 AM
Poison_dart_frog_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Miss Blue said...

The U.S. currently administers 14 territories as insular areas:

American Samoa
Guam
Northern Mariana Islands
Puerto Rico
U.S. Virgin Islands
Minor Outlying Islands

Bajo Nuevo Bank
Baker Island
Howland Island
Jarvis Island
Johnston Atoll
Kingman Reef
Midway Islands
Navassa Island
Palmyra Atoll

I think a few of these (would probably want to combine a few of the Pacific territories) would make wonderful states, if they so desire.


I haven't heard much about statehood for Puerto Rico lately.


How many realize that many from these territories serve in the US Military?


I agree with Ivan....no statehood for D.C. for the reasons he cited. If they want to be a state, divide the territory between Maryland and Virginia.

March 29, 2011 9:07 AM
10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoHr-1 House Guest said...

Nobody says you have to live there.

March 29, 2011 10:00 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

I  think we  should  change  the  name  of  our  nation's  capital  to  "Emerald  City."   Somehow  someone  makes  lots  of  the  judgment  calls  regarding  our  lives  and  liberties,   yet  he  or  she  is  apparently  operating  the  controls  behind  a  non-transparent  curtain.....   Dorothy,  please  calmly  buy  quickly  pick  up  Toto,  and  proceed  to  the  nearest  exit,  until  we  get  this  bipartisan  mess  sorted  out.   You're  NOT  in  Kansas  anymore.....

March 29, 2011 10:01 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

...calmly  But  QUICKLY.....

March 29, 2011 10:02 AM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Mooseloop said...

No statehood for DC...period. No discussion. Those people cannot even elect a mayor who is not a druggie!!  They have the highest crime rate in the area, have all kinds of corrupt schools, and myriad social problems..If they want to live in an area with representation, move. Period.
 
Luna moths are sad, lovely creatures. The big green caterpillers eat up my tomato plants! I sevin dust them! No pillars, no lunas! A few of the doomed sexed up moths show up at night on my screens, but they are docile and I never examined them to see how big their - uh - antennae were! (Males, the article said, have larger antennae.) Sorry, I think that sleeping potion commercial picked an odd creature logo for the green luna to be their mascot....."Here I am to put you to sleep, and I am only looking for sex, and I have no way of eating, so I will be dying soon..."  What were they thinking? lunesta - siesta.
 
Hazel - You are right, this is a narrow topic.

March 29, 2011 10:12 AM
First-com Gytha said...

 Miss Blue~   Not only do many residents of the territories serve in the military, they pay U.S. Federal Income Tax.  Yet they don't have voting representation in the government which imposes those taxes. I thought we got fed up with that in 1773?   Or is it ok since it's not King George doing it to Us?   Or does it count since they get to send someone to Congress, so what if they get no vote?  San Juan Tea Party anyone?  Lynn830 ~  I love cherry blossoms!  Especially weeping cherries.  Down here they bloomed a week or two ago, finally shaking off their blossoms in the loveliest of petal snow -- my favorite part.  Now the azaleas and dogwoods have taken up the melody.   Hazel ~  What about a nice cuppa tea?  You can join me & my little girls for their usual dolly tea this afternoon.  Although, they prefer juice in their cups.  I'll be happy to make us some Earl Grey or Jasmine.  What's your favorite?
 

March 29, 2011 10:15 AM
First-com Gytha said...

ARRGGGH!  How do you get this darned box to respect the boundaries you set?!?!!?  That last post was NOT all one paragraph.  And there were nice, readable breaks for the change in responses.   I was told to compose elsewhere & then paste in the box. But, upon doing that, I was notified by the little Firefox troll who lives in my computer that "Firefox doesn't allow cut/copy/paste."  How rude! 

March 29, 2011 10:20 AM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

I feel a little timid sticking my toe into this, but I don't quite understand a few things. First, it seems absurd not to draw a line down the middle and split the territory btw VA and MD. I agree Marion Berry is hardly a stellar public servant but we have trade with Germany now, don't we? Second, I can't help thinking that if we artibtrarily pulled Brooklyn, N.Y. or Watts or many other small cities and put them under microscopes we wouldn't think any better of them. and finally (maybe) over the years I have known many many people who worked in DC either for a term or even permanently and not one of them lived within the Beltway. Perhaps DC wouldn't be in the condition it is if it were not kind of an orphan. However I am open to all opinions and always happy to learn something so I will pay close attention to what everyone else has to say today. First RobinRed Breast in CT this morning!!

March 29, 2011 10:36 AM
First-com Gytha said...

Mooseloop ~  seems like the Luna would've been a better mascot for Cialis or Viagra.  

March 29, 2011 10:42 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

Gytha:  we  also  need  spellcheck,  and  grammarcheck.....

March 29, 2011 10:47 AM
First-com Gytha said...

Bert ~  Did I botch those as well?  My apologies.

March 29, 2011 10:54 AM
39421 10photoviewsFirst-comFirst-photo ThBKeeper said...

Todays conversation starter points to a small, broken cog in a very large and VERY broken wheel which keeps spinning round and round, convincing itself in the process that each time it gets stuck, it is gazing upon new scenery. In short we are stuck on a merry go round called lunacy. Albert Einstein said, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again- expecting different results." Mr. Einstein, that is the sum of it and all of its parts. Grab your life jacket. We are going down. I am a strong swimmer! I am thinking New Zealand...

March 29, 2011 11:17 AM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

MISS BLUE ~ You forgot Bank of America and General Motors.

March 29, 2011 11:37 AM
Poison_dart_frog_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Miss Blue said...

Gytha , Microsoft Word / cut n paste works( most of the time) for me. I really love the built-in spell check.


Puerto Rico would be a logical first choice for a new state. Considering our current "state of affairs", I'd be surprised if they still actually WANT to be a state. LOL


 From what I understand, many native Hawaiians didn't want statehood, sine the US basically dethroned their sitting monarch and requisitioned the Islands. All of the "Minor" Pacific Island territories could be coalesced into one state. I imagine the UN would go ballistic over that one!


The 52nd state would be The US Virgin Islands, perhaps, then Guam as 53rd, although Guamanians voted overwhelmingly for Commonwealth status in a 1982 referendum, as opposed to statehood.


 


Paolos, I guess the banks have enough territory with the number of foreclosed properties......I'm not sure about American Motors.

March 29, 2011 11:53 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Carol said...

Gytha---I have the same issue with Firefox.  I can't paste in links or anything else.  It's frustrating sometimes. 

March 29, 2011 12:05 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Bert~ You are naughty. Since when did we worry about spelling. I think Gytha thinks you are serious! And as for checking on Grandma, she repeats herself like that computer of yours does sometimes.
Gytha~ What fun! A tea party with little girls and dollies and teddies. I'm not very well versed in tea varieties, the ubiquitous British tea  bag suits me fine. My treasure box contains a photo of me, my brother and the famous Fredbare (my teddy) seated on  kiddy-size chairs with the dolly tea-set all laid out just so on a little table. Neither of us kids are wearing any clothes. My father is on his knees in his baggy khaki shorts, joining in the party, pretending to drink tea from a tiny cup. This photograph was taken on a tea plantation in East Africa. We lived there the first 3-4 years of my life, so I really should know more about tea.
Mooseloop~ Sad 'tho it is, there is some evil satisfaction in blasting the bugs, slugs, snails, caterpillars and other creepy-crawlies that attack the veg patch. I'm plagued with cabbage white butterflies that lay their eggs on the underside of brassica leaves. Once those little devils hatch out, they'll chomp through your row of purple sprouting broccoli in no time. Puts you right off any notions of becoming a buddhist and never killing things. 
Several of you are enjoying the spring blossoms - I have a magnolia with flowers the size of half pint mugs, The buds overwinter in cute velvet sleeping bags to keep the frost off them. The cherry trees are lovely. Where's Spring? Do they have a sort of bank holiday in Asian countries so people can enjoy the cherry blossom? If any of you would like a bunch of daffodils and narcicus, come on over and help yourselves.
 

March 29, 2011 12:11 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-5 George Hall said...

Several questions come to mind that someone here probably knows the answers to:
 
* The decision to become a state requires the approval of the citizens as well as Congress, doesn' it? I understand the objection is taking on the resposibility- taxes, etc, of being a state.
 
* Who on earth would want to take on the mess that DC is? Streets, schools, crime in many parts of the city are abominable, dangerous and appear to be ungovernable and city taxes are prohibitive.
 
*if the Virgin Islands became a state wouldn't we have to rename the place when we got done screwing with them? 
 
 

more on the honor roll
March 29, 2011 12:15 PM
Poison_dart_frog_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Miss Blue said...

George Hall


"They" have been screwing Virginia for a long time, and we remain intact....almost   ; )

March 29, 2011 12:28 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

Gytha, big, big welcome to the Village.

Looking forward to your posts.

March 29, 2011 12:31 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Carol said...

Re the hints of spring.....I know spring is almost here 'cuz my allergies are in full bloom!  The pharmacist took one look at me yesterday as I was inquiring about some relief and said,"Oh, you look a- gasp/gulp"  I said, "yes, I know I look awful..."  She kindly gave me some recommendations and tried to cover her gaffe with "But people with your light coloring show it more..."  Nonetheless I did look awful and feel worse.  However, today's better thanks to her help and I am waiting all atingle for the leaves to finally explode into green and the pollen be gone!!     I've seen some brave crocus and magnolias in bloom-

March 29, 2011 12:52 PM
1-dscn1106-4 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Gytha: firefox doesn't play well with our Village, or vice verse.  I was using firefox until recently (I did something irreparable to IE) -- anyhow new computer, I'm using IE and it works fine, here.
 
Previously, with Firefox, all my paragraphs would become one long tome...nothing I know to do about it, unless you want to switch to IE when you're on this site.
 
I completely empathize with you on this one.
 
Couldn't copy/paste links either...try IE?  is my best advice.

March 29, 2011 12:55 PM
1-dscn1106-4 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

There's bloomin nothin bloomin here, Carol.  Glad you got some help with the allergies.  Sad but true, fair skinned people show it more.  I avoid mirrors as much as possible during this time of year.  I scare me.

March 29, 2011 12:55 PM
First-com Gytha said...

George ~ Is there ever really a "done screwing" when it comes to the political world?  Luna moths are definitely done.  Politicians, they just change bedfellows.

March 29, 2011 1:01 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Carol~ My sympathies. My heart sinks when I see clouds of yellow pollen blowing off the Hazel catkins, the nose sarts running, the eyes start itching, the sinuses get bunged up & that strange peppery taste...... deep joy. I get off the shelf antihistmine tablets and take one in the morning and one at bedtime. (My Doctor says that's fine.)  Indoors, I have things with complicated filters to take stuff out of the air (Brits don't do air conditioning). If I am going to work outdoors, I put Vaseline up my nose - not very pretty, but it traps the pollen. Wearing glasses helps to keep the stuff out of your eyes. We have had a few days of warm sunshine and I have sneezed & sneezed. Today is better as we have rather gloomy grey drizzle, but at least it keeps the pollen down.

March 29, 2011 1:03 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

Puerto Rico is a different critter altogether ... They have voted a dozen times on taking Statehood, and while most of the people like the idea of being a State (which wouldn't actually change very much of anything, as far as how they operate) the one, simple thing that has always led the Puerto Ricans to vote the idea down is ... that they just don't want to give up their Flag, for the Stars n Stripes, and/or they don't want to take the Borrego off their Flag ... Many of them prefer to be Puerto Ricans rather than "Americans" ... Nobody is stupid enough to turn down a Hand-Out, but if we stopped supporting them tomorrow, their lives would go on pretty much like before ... I was Stationed in San Juan for a while, and have visited there many times ... and the Puerto Rican People are pretty Constant ... not prone to make changes just for the sake of change(altho' they closed the Riviera Lounge after about forty years) I don't think Puerto Ricans really want Statehood ... I think they want to keep things just as they are, and go on down the road ... If you have never been there ... take your next vacation there, or weekend getaway ... You will understand with your first look around, why nobody really wants to change anything ...

March 29, 2011 1:16 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

I say we grant the District of Columbia its
independence.  Do I hear an Amen?
 
All elected officials and unelected bureaucrats
purportedly working there would automatically be granted citizenship in the
new Nation of Columbington.  It would be interesting to see if they would
survive without the support of the states.  It would be more interesting to
see whether all the power centralized in the new country would soon have the
states back under its thumb once again in only a short matter of
time.  

March 29, 2011 1:26 PM
1-dscn1106-4 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

paolos:  I think Country DC would be a lot like the scenario in Golding's Lord of the Flies.

March 29, 2011 1:38 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Carol said...

Fellow allergy sufferers:  thanks for feeling my pain!  I appreciate it.  

March 29, 2011 2:21 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

GEORGE:  That is Funny !!!

March 29, 2011 2:25 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

I understand that the severe radiation found in Japan these days could cure allergies

March 29, 2011 2:26 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Carol~ Your previous reminds me of a sunny afternoon when I was minding our little cafe, which was absolutely dead as everybody was on the beach. In walk two men in suits. I knew before they opened their mouths that they were American. I was in a foul mood with the allergies. These guys start off their patter with "Hi, Maa'm, we are here today to share with you how we met Jesus." I briefly considered their offer and countered it with "Only if you will listen attentively to me sharing about last time I saw a proctologist." Silence for 30 seconds, then they both erupted with laughter. We all sat down and had a nice cup of tea with scones and jam and cream, having agreed to avoid talking about anything serious.

March 29, 2011 2:39 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

BTW, in case anybody gets me wrong. I have my own faith and do not need somebody peddling another one to me, like you could change faith as easily aschanging your brand of washing powder.

March 29, 2011 2:40 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

HAZEL--set a place for me, I'll make the scones.

March 29, 2011 2:46 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Carol said...

Hazel---you absolutely crack me up all the time!  Set a place at that tea party for me....I'll bring some linen napkins and fancy serving trays for those scones of ChefDeb's.

March 29, 2011 2:50 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Carol said...

RoadYacht-----I'll just buy a bigger box of tissues and crank the air filters up a notch or two, rather than the alternative you've found....

March 29, 2011 3:07 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

In other earth-shaking News today, MUFON Reports that Rosie O'Donnell is moving over to the Oprah Winfree Network ... Management says that a decision is close on which Brand of Wide Angle Lens the Network should use, to accomodate both of them, should they ever be on the same Stage, at the same time ... More News: The Network says that all Public Service Announcement and CONALRAD Transparencies will be changed up, to the Size commonly used for Michael Moore ......
 
More News in a moment, but first a word from our Sponsor .......

March 29, 2011 3:36 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

ChefDeb, your mere mention of scones makes me hungry for them.

I remember well the afternoon we were driving in the countryside in England, spotted this cozy little tea shop beside a river, ordered scones, strawberry jam and clotted cream and pots of hot tea and sat at a table near the river and ate and ate and ate.

Ashamed to tell you how many scones we ate.

Let's just say you couldn't count 'em all on your fingers and toes.

But then who was counting.

Certainly not us.

March 29, 2011 3:44 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

Question:

How could such a beautiful place on the outside (see photo at top) have so much ugliness going on in the inside?

March 29, 2011 3:45 PM
1-dscn1106-4 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Laugh out Loud Ivan!   Someone earlier told me, when I asked, so what's new in the world, he said "hell if I know, all I heard was something about Rosie O'Donnel and Oprah Winfrey...probably a special on the discovery channel on whales..." 
 
Not nice?  Not necessarily.  When it's a slow news day, eveyone's fodder. Especially mean Rosie.
 
 

March 29, 2011 4:04 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Carol said...

Ivan & Park.....laugh out loud funny........

March 29, 2011 4:09 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

MISS PARK4:  You are Blessed to have Two Friends who will speak the Truth !!!
 
And remember that, NICE is rooted in the Latin Word, Nessius, and means IGNORANT ... so be care of people who tell you that you are uch a Nice person ...

March 29, 2011 4:52 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Mooseloop said...

George commenting re: the Virgin Islands - good one!
 
Jalopkin commenting on Rosie O and Oprah - the truth hurts!
 
Carol on allergies - many of us have 'em, me too - 2 words: Nasonex and Fexofenadine!
 
Cherry blossoms -  I miss mine. The 2 tall trees I had that should be blooming madly this time of year were cut down by the power company!! They said they were too close to the road and blocked their power lines. (When did cherry branches ever fall on a power line?!)
 
On copying and pasting - IE allows those with a right click.
 
Hazel - Love our handling of the suited religious evangelizers! I am with you - Don't try to sell me your religion! You keep yours ( as long as it does not hurt anybody), and I'll do the same....The old saw, "I don't ask you to think as I do, I just ask you to think!!"
 
On today's topic headline -- "Fifty Years and Counting" - I have a story of 21 years and counting for you: "Osprey 'Lady' Returns to Loch of the Lowes" in Scotland. A female osprey had migrated in winter to Africa  21 times and returned to the UK/Scotland reserve and laid at least 56 eggs and seen 48 hatchings (twice the normal)....They have a camera set up to watch her nest. She was sick last summer but came back just now, so they are waiting to see if she will mate and have little ospreys again! (Much better news than the Japanese meltdowns.) See
 
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-12891743
 
This old lady osprey is surely doing better than the lunas!!
 
 

March 29, 2011 4:57 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Lynn830 said...

Jalopkin - Note that in the elections in Puerto Rico, there are sometimes three options:  statehood, stay as is, or independence.  The middle choice has always won.  There are those who are rabid about independence (as those at Blair House found out in 1950) and those who advocate statehood, but most are happy as is.
A lot of folks in the D.C. area advocate taking most of it and giving it back to Maryland.  They certainly couldn't do worse than is being done now.

March 29, 2011 5:27 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

LYNN: I was Stationed in Puerto Rico long enough to see Four General Elections, and one of the things the Borhiqua have learned from the S is that, whatever the Media has to say, might not exactly represent what the people have to say, when they are spoken to in their own homes (or in the Riviera Lounge)
 
Maryland is having its own problems right now, and taking back the Part of DC that was originally filched from them, is probably as horrific an idea as having an Arab/Moslem Fraud in the White House ... Ask Legget, and see what he says .......

March 29, 2011 5:27 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Mooseloop~ If you go to  Ospreys Wales (google) you will get the webcam on our precious birds. They live about 5 miles down the road from my place. The location is the Glasllyn Valley, one of the most beautifuil places in Wales. I'm not sure if they are here yet but somebody will drag me into nightwatch while they are sitting on eggs.

March 29, 2011 5:27 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

U S that is ...

March 29, 2011 5:38 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-5 George Hall said...

Mooseloop~ Thanks for shareing the Lovely Old Osprey story!
 
Miss Blue~ Is that how the old slogan "Made in Virginia by Virgins" got changed to "Virginia is for Lovers"? In my youth I spent some time at Little Creek and Dam Neck. On a clear day after a long forced march you could see Virginia Beach from there.

March 29, 2011 6:42 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Carol said...

George---your remark about renaming the Virgin Islands made me think of my brother--it's exactly the kind of witty remark that he'd make--

March 29, 2011 6:52 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Lynn830 said...

Jalopkin - Agreed that Maryland has enough problems.  Virginia managed to get back its chunk of DC (now Arlington County).  And the part of DC that they would get back (the eastern half) is the most troubled area.  I wonder if Georgetown would agree to become part of Maryland - and I suspect not.  Actually parts of Maryland have schools that are as bad as those in DC.  And Baltimore is as much a part of the "Rust Belt" as much of the Midwest.  There certainly are no steel mill or auto factory jobs to be had any more.  An interesting note in the Washington Post last week is that the 2010 census shows DC to be gentrifying.  It is no longer a majority African American.  The are just east of the Capitol is a prime example - lots of renovating and rebuilding, people sick of commuting and wanting to be in the city and walk or use mass transit.

March 29, 2011 6:58 PM
293 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 rings90 said...

Never a state for D.C. to me it's kind of a National Park area & I would like to keep it that way.  
 
I was under the impression that Puerto Rico never agreed to Statehood in the early 90's becuase they didn't want to pay as much in for taxes. I remember having a political cartoon in my locker about how WI voted out of being a state for the same reason... It was such a long time ago tho maybe I have it goofed up... (yes I was an Uber History Current Affairs Loving Geek in H.S.)  
 
I LOVE Washington D.C & the Virginia area I am hoping to get back there some day as I am very much in a need to be awed agian by its beauty.
 
Stoney - The young Army man that was killed was a good friend of one of the girls at the BOBOB, She is very upset about it as she was talking to him on Wednesday... She told me today that the Family has decided to lay him their only son to rest in Arlington. I thought it was a very unselfish thing for them to do in this time of grief.  They are essentially giving up their son twice, They really are True American Patriots to me....      
 

March 29, 2011 7:15 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Mooseloop said...

Apparently, these are 2 different osprey projects. as one is in Wales and another is in Scotland. The one Hazel refers to is called the Glaslyn Osprey project, while the other is called the Loch of the Lowes Reservation project. Both have cameras fixed on the busiest nests and are monitoring these birds. The Glaslyn project began in 2004 while the Lowes project has documented the one called "Lady" for 21 years. Both are nurturing chicks and protecting fledglings to maturity! Good for them!
 
 http://www.wildlifeextra.com/go/uk/uk-glaslynosprey.html#cr
 
This one describes the osprey, distinguishing it from the hawk or the eagle. It says its diet in 99% fish....Makes you wonder about the 1 %, doesn't it?!!
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osprey
 

March 29, 2011 7:19 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Mooseloop said...

Ooops, sorry Mr. P, I am waaay off topic.  Would it help to ask if there are birds we need to know about in Washington, DC??   Hawks?  Chickens?  Jaybirds?   Jailbirds?

March 29, 2011 8:30 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

MOOSE....................yes a chicken basted w/ olive oil & stuffed w/ garlic, sprinkled w/ salt & pepper & roasted until crisp & brown.........................served w/ smashed new potaoes w/ rosemary, some warm rolls & butter & a big slice of STONEY's key lime tart........mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............................................

March 29, 2011 9:14 PM
1-dscn1106-4 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

I read that as "a chicken bastard..." 
 
;
@ bebe

March 29, 2011 9:36 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Mooseloop said...

Park's description of what kind of birds are in the DC Capitol is pretty accurate for a great number of them!  Food for thought.

March 29, 2011 9:51 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Lynn830 said...

The District of Columbia is frequently seen as a sort of "National Park" area, and much of it (the Mall principally) is administered by the National Park Service.  Folks living in the area think of it as the "Federal Enclave," the part with government buildings, the Smithsonian Institution's museums, the Mall and all the various monuments.  All that runs smoothly and fairly safely.  The problem exists if you go east of the Capitol Building or north K Street, into gritty, urban DC, where all the problems exist.  Open air drug markets, abject poverty, prostitution, terrible schools, unemployment, bad politics and politicians, you name it.  That part is not a "National Park."  That part needs to be part of something that will provide a proper government, police force and education system.  I don't know if it still exits, but at one time the District was years behind in sending out water bills.  If you wanted to sell your house, a lien existed against the property until the water bill was calculated and paid, and you could not close a real estate deal.  I heard that it could take a full day to settle that.  The problems are monumental.  So, carving up the District so that the real "District of Columbia" remains such would be great.  But the next needs some real solutions.

March 29, 2011 10:00 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

PARK............that works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you could skip the olive oil as it would already be so oily & slippery...............................not fit for eating................O-L-A-G-I-N-E_O-U-S.....................

March 29, 2011 10:03 PM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


rings90 ~
Yes, young being the operative term. It's heartbreaking.
I had coffee recently with an old vet. I've been working for about a year on his obit and it is finally just waiting for him to do his part.
He got to talking with a younger officer about the restrictive 'rules of engagement' that hamper our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan: unarmed guys are not in play until they position themselves advantageously, pick up the guns and start picking us off.
Old guy says: "Pity you don't have old guys like us over there. First thing we do, is we shoot you. Then we shoot the guys who come out with their hands raised to see what happened. Then, we go inside and shoot the ones who didn't come out.
End of f***ing story."

This just in: President Barack H. Obama has now loosed more Tomahawk Cruise missiles on and Islamic state than any other....



Nobel Peace Prize winner in history.

March 29, 2011 10:52 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

Stoney~  it was a mis-appellation....it was supposed to be the piece of this prize

March 29, 2011 10:54 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

but on the up side, the Tomahawk missle factory just put on a second shift.....now if they can just get some short term credit from B of A.....

March 29, 2011 10:55 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

and the parts are on "back order" from Japan.....darn!   Before we sold that factory to China, we used to make those parts here.

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