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I've gone to my farm in Kentucky for the weekend. It's a great place to relax, do a little hard physical labor, and forget about the rest of the world. If you don't have such a place, I highly suggest you get one.

In the meantime, here's an interesting take you might find maybe more than temporarily interesting.

See you on Monday.

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February 19, 2012 12:15 AM
P8041286 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300First-comFirst-photoHr-1 IvyGailWinds said...

Pop-up Shops...contemporary idea; Pop-up shops are portable, take a coleman pop-up camper remove the sink/stove/ and use for a display of antique wares...popitup... ontheroad... for sale...for sale...all must go! Hear yee...Hear yaw.listen...Popitups...are now radically acceptable for selling or marketing your artist....wares...in a time of economic decline comming face to face with your traffic flow of customers...is the way to goooooooo! If the register rings...rings and rings...you'll be able to buy many dingalings....

February 19, 2012 12:17 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

In a way, everything is temporary.

February 19, 2012 12:52 AM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


It is oddly, more appealing to see an attractive, functional temporary structure than a cheap and ugly permanent one.
Having been around long enough to have seen bridges built and now, replaced and marvelous homes on campus knocked down for dorms now knocked down for student housing suites, it seems lotlot has it right: everything is temporary.
The state is spending almost $700,000 to dispose of a food service building less old than our youngest child.
It was interesting to learn that my younger brother shares an interest in tiny, portable houses but is for me an abstract attraction. We have too much stuff and have grown accustomed to nine foot ceilings.

February 19, 2012 2:15 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

Does the term  ROAD YACHT ring a bell? Yachts are fine lodgings..and to not have to have sea legs while you lodge, well, you can see the alure.The protocol is the same; smallest possible footprint,and a place for everything you need(but it is a yacht!)but more than mere essentials...I will let your eeeeemaginations run wild, but I will give you this hint : designer tp
 

February 19, 2012 8:35 AM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

The yin and yang of my personality....at first, the idea of impermanence appeals.  Temporary abodes that can be folded up and taken.  Just to get up and go whenever the mood strikes, no ties, no duties, no one to please but myself and perhaps, my travel partner.  But then that other side speaks to me, the one that wants roots and a place in the world, albeit, my own world, but the world nonetheless.  The world with grandchildren who live near and people who know and care about us.  But still........................... 

February 19, 2012 8:51 AM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


There is contained herein, one line so good that I wish that I had typed it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/downton-abbey.html?ref=magazine

February 19, 2012 9:07 AM
P1010179 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1 S. A. J. Johnson said...

I was listening to a concrete expert on NPR, and he was saying that reinforced concrete has an effective life of about 75 years (plus or minus depending on environment and use of course), because the reinforcing metal rusts. Unlike some Roman concrete that is still around today... I'm an archaeologist and am interested in what's called "site formation processes." This is the study of how things get integrated into the archaeological record, which is just a fancy way to to say "how things get buried." I love looking at abandoned houses, crumbling buildings, etc. Even impermanent structures can be seen archaeologically. There are now tests that can suggest marketplaces in some open areas because of the concentration of trace-element signatures found in foods.

But there is something about permanence: I would love to build a cabin that my great-grandkids would go to and say, "this is my great grandpa's cabin he built with his own hands."


February 19, 2012 9:08 AM
Feet_up 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Thomas Typicalis said...

I have lived 'temporarily' in the back of a green and white VW microbus. Before that in a sleeping bag by my trout stream the Clinch River or my boyhood tree house feasting on mountain grapes stolen from Mrs. Andrews' prized vines. I have operated businesses out of apartments and rented PO boxes. Airports and hotels have often found this hobo capitalist with briefcase and carry on reading Travel and Leisure. But as Andy alluded life is about passages and my bungalow with all my stuff is a great setting for Act II of My Life and Times. Change the props and set pieces but keep the storyline and always stay in character.

February 19, 2012 9:21 AM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

STONEY Great article, thank you! I liked "his noblesse was his oblige," but I still want to know your sentence. It was awfully well written.

February 19, 2012 9:34 AM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


ChefDeb ~
It takes a bit more for context:"Yet the familial relationship between the Earl of Grantham and his servants doesn’t really open up his world at all. It doesn’t make him see things in a new way or make him a better person. He was never not a better person to begin with."

February 19, 2012 10:04 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

It takes a lot of courage to bring children into today's world,  assuming that it is a conscious decision by & between the parents.  Everything we create won't form a permanent monument to our efforts,  like a Hemingway novel or an Airstream trailer.  I'm still coming to terms with the disconnect between fame & true success.  Happiness is illusory as we envision our children & grandchildren being forced to learn new jobs for their entire lives.  Accepting the fact that our work products won't all magically morph into Frank Lloyd Wright gleaming memorials to our lives is perhaps the key to real happiness. 

February 19, 2012 10:43 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

Winter seems to be a temporary season this year. I miss it.........................

February 19, 2012 10:48 AM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Cheer up Bert. That kind of gloom is contagious, unhelpful and probably misplaced.
None of us knows what the future holds but we can easily pre-condemn it and burden following generations with a pall of doom.
People with advanced degrees camp out campaigning for jobs for which they have not prepared and want the government to pay off their massive student loans.
Meanwhile, our electrician has his own airplane and our plumber, a villa in Costa Rica.
Faith is the basis for confidence and confidence, coupled with preparation, can accomplish anything.
A man on the East side of Milwaukee invited me in to his Wright house to point out that they were about to sink 60k into the kitchen which, according to him, had been suitable for making toast but not much more. It was hard to argue.

bebe ~

We had winter one week. It was great.

February 19, 2012 12:12 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

Great stuff STONEY! Its been many years since I have been in England, but I understand it is now safe to eat more than Roast Beef & Yorkshire Pudding, Cornish Passssties and Steak & Kidney Pie (Sorry HAZEL!)

You are totally on the case, as always.

February 19, 2012 12:17 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Statistics show that the English national dish is now chicken korma.

February 19, 2012 12:40 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Carol said...

....how odd that today's discussion on temporary follows upon yesterday's topic of "Stonehenge"which has proven itself to be anything but temporary....

February 19, 2012 1:00 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

But even Stonehenge is passing, albeit slowly.

Where is the rest of the original circle?

There is less there now than when I first saw it some four decades ago.

February 19, 2012 1:09 PM
Feet_up 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Thomas Typicalis said...

ll- You are bloody well right.. I have found the more you try to hold onto a feeling about this-that-t'other the less likely you can recreate it. Even when you can't detect the changes they are happening. Memory is a selective and ofttimes beautiful thing but all things and relationships with things and people require a constant renewal of energy, maintenance, and vision.

February 19, 2012 1:11 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

My, lotlot~ you sweet innocent! The missing stones got stolen/recycled. I'd be spooked by having a stone fron Stonehenge as a lintel somewhere in my house.

February 19, 2012 1:17 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-5 Georgia said...

I agree with ChefDeb that STONEY is never NOT on the case. And yes, Carol, I thought immediately of Stonehenge, too. And Woodhenge. 
 
"Old" has different meanings in different places, brought home to me each time we hosted a student or teacher from another country.  My city is, by our standards, "old"; giving them the Town Tour, though, kept me in my place. 
 
I'm ambivalent about the article, whose subjects haven't stood the test of time, and I've only one example to contribute: Our son teaches American Lterature at a university in Kyoto, Japan; he sends photos of temples so ancient, their age is reckoned in millions of years.  And this despite WWII. On the other hand, he describes how the Japanese build houses today: biking to school, he passes a house being taken apart.  When he passes it on his way home in the evening, all evidence of that house is gone, and a new one, complete, stands in its place; owners have already moved in.  He's told the intent is not to build houses to last, as we do, but to be replaced easily, cheaply, quickly.  Doubtless there are larger, perhaps elegant houses elsewhere in that large city (think NYC), but for the average Japanese, "temporary" is apparently preferable (these residents do not appear "poor").
 
He lived first in an apartment, now in a condominium no different from new construction here, so there is clearly a mix.  His condo opens onto the roof, where people grill food, hang clothes to dry.... Kyoto does not allow skyscrapers; his building is as high as they come.  Ancient temples, though, rise above all, magnificent and knowing.
 
My mystical, magical bent hangs over from yesterday....
 

February 19, 2012 1:34 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

haze, I know about the stolen/recycled stones.

But no matter how they went away, that still proves my contention that Stonehenge -- like everything else -- still is in a way temporary.

If Stonehenge were permanent, all of the stones would still be there.

I rest my case.

February 19, 2012 1:39 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

ChefDeb~ I saw your post and was overwhelmed by a desire for steak and kidney pudding - not pie, the one made in a lining of suet crust pastry and steamed for hours in a pudding bowl, as used inverted as a pattern for cutting little boys' hair. Happily, Granny at my local chip shop does a side line of real steak and kidney pudding - she must have thought I looked hungry as she shuffled out to the back kitchen and gave me a wink and a sssshhhh! sign. When I got home and opened up my take away, there were peas, carrots, sweet corn and potatos, presumably 'spares' from the family meal. It was deliciious. I can't get her to part with the recipe for the steak and kidney. It's tender and the gravy is soooooooo tasty! Going to take her a big bunch of camealias and a small bunch of snowdrops tomorrow, from my garden.

February 19, 2012 1:49 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Dust is permanent.

February 19, 2012 2:15 PM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

There was a really nice feature in the online edition of the Chicago Tribune. 5 sketches of new proposed renovation designs of Chicago's Navy Pier really gave me a rush of nostalga, blended with optomism for the future. The Tribune has a dedicated architecture critic, and despite woes associated with the general financial decline of print media we still see his handiwork. NOW if only I can forgive the parent company, they SOLD the Chicago Cubs.....lol.

February 19, 2012 2:16 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Rusty said...

Thank you, wise Hazel.  Dust and the "dust bunnies" under the bed.

February 19, 2012 2:17 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-5 Georgia said...

How could I forget?  From one of my favorite writers:
 
"...all things end under heaven, and if temporality is held to be invalidating, then nothing real succeeds."
 
He speaks not of buildings but of life.... 
 
TOMMY TYPICAL is right, which is why you see writers scribble notes; keep journals; jot down overheard conversation (for this, airline terminals are great); describe on a scrap the color of air on a certain day, the hue of sky, scent of one particular bush; the slip-splash of waves breaking on the sand, the rooooar-smash-splash of the surf farther out, the erotic smell of mingled sea-rot, seaweed, ocean... 
 

February 19, 2012 2:25 PM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...

 John updike?

February 19, 2012 2:45 PM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

O-p-t-i-m-i-s-m. Aaarrrggghhh!

February 19, 2012 3:50 PM
1-dscn1106-4 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Bert, you are such an Eeyore: "It's not much of a tail, but I'm sort of attached to it."  That is you.

February 19, 2012 4:24 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

Last night's entertainment was an evening with
Bernadette Peters and enough of the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra to comprise a
show band. I don't know why I felt compelled to count the band members, but
there were 30 instrumentalists and one vocalist.  That would be 31 with
Bernadette.
She brought her own music director and her personal
percussionist that many of you may remember from his Mouseketeers days as
Cubby.  Her performance featuring show tunes, a
lot of energy and a little shtik was over all too soon. She told the Eli Wallach
super sex joke...I'll have the soup.
I could listen to her voice for ages; whether she
be singing, talking, or laughing. Nothing lasts forever.  All good things must
end. 
 
How about that, Eli?
 

Today's topic? One word. YURTS!
 

February 19, 2012 5:14 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

where's the wheels? 

February 19, 2012 5:18 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

http://www.terrawind.com/terrawind.htm,    ; tepmporary is only where you park,and how long you stay,because there is more to see in this little place called America than you could ever imagine. And, roadside attractions!

February 19, 2012 5:28 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

PAOLOS...............when my husband was a tater tot he happened to have a traumatic view of Bernadette Peters on TV & ever since then the sight of her freaks him out. I do love her voice & I think she is adorable, but seriously the woman does not seem to age..............sounds like you had a wonderful night!

February 19, 2012 5:41 PM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...

 Define traumatic.

February 19, 2012 5:51 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...


Miss Bebe ~ 64, looks 34.
 
Stoney ~ Just like that, her last number was a
lullaby.
 
Road Yacht ~
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsrDKdpcj9Q

February 19, 2012 6:13 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

STONEY.....................something about her face & voice just creepd him out & he's held onto that ever since.................
 
Well, it's dogs to the lake time........................no school tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yippe skippee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

February 19, 2012 6:22 PM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


bebe ~
Ahh! The Nancy Grace syndrome… got it.
Tomorrow will be nicer knowing you're enjoying it.

February 19, 2012 7:00 PM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

When I was in high school, an art teacher would take us downtown and ask that we look, really look at the fine old buildings that are still standing.  They're beautiful with gargoyles and angels, beautiful fretwork along the edges, things that craftsmen did then that simply aren't done any more.  Nothing temporary can match it either then, or now. 

February 19, 2012 7:31 PM
Feet_up 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Thomas Typicalis said...

Howard Roark would build them his way or they would be quite temporary i.e. blown to smithereens.

February 19, 2012 8:40 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

STONEY! Hours later and you are still on it. What a gift that website is. I have just begun playing with it and I have already found buildings designed by both my father and my grandfather. The Hotel Carlyle is the building my grandfather is most noted for.

All day long I have been pondering the topic and thinking about the fact that my father was an absolute fanatic in his love for places like Rome where he could see architecture that has survived centuries. At the same time, on two occasions buildings designed by his father were torn down and replaced with new buildings that my father designed and it didn't bother him at all. I felt sentimentally traumatized and he merely shrugged and say "thats the way it is." I don't think thats quite on todays topic, but I've been thinking about it.

February 19, 2012 8:44 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

ANDY.......................oh, art classes. We don't have any in my district because we need to pay for the consultants & the family & friends of the superintendent who are on the payroll............oh & the district cars. I had great art classes in my youth & I treasure them. Thre are so many staggeringly beautiful old buildings out there.
 
STONEY.....................your mention of the old dorms & other college buildings being torn down for new junk is one of several reasons we don't give money to our place of higher learning..................it's really a tragedy. There was a really cool bank in the town where I teach and they "remodeled" it ( destroyed would be a better word) & lost all of the vintage fixtures and it now looks shiny & completely ruined. Everyone seems to think it looks great except for me. I keep my thoughs to myself....................thanks by the way!
 
TT...................H.R.............be still my heart.....................

February 19, 2012 8:56 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Carol said...

Stoney---lots of fun reading provided by you today.  I hope you've not neglected TMBWITW to provide such fodder for us villagers.....  Thanks for your research.       

February 19, 2012 11:14 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Mooseloop said...

Andy - Like you, I need those roots....temporary seems so rootless, drifting, awash, unanchored, dust in the wind.....(I moved around too much early on.)

Of course, tents and trailers are important for moving around from place to place, therefore, seeing more country in the long run. I like our truck, packing every inch, then getting on the backroads and seeing America's small towns and byways. But there is the satisfaction of knowing we can go "home."

February 20, 2012 10:00 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-5 Georgia said...

MONDAY morn 
 
 
STONEY, STONEY ~ of course you recognized Mr. U's writing...I shoulda knew. 
 
As you probably would recognize mine, even without the name

February 20, 2012 10:00 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-5 Georgia said...

ooooh, not that mine is on a plane with his, or with yours. but I strive....

February 20, 2012 10:45 PM
M 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Penn said...

Vernacular architecture has been around for ages.  It seems it is finally getting the respect it deserves. My grandfather, who built my grandmother a tiny home must be smiling.

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