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Otherwise known as the knee jerk reaction.

From CNBC:

"J.P. Morgan’s $2 billion trading loss could lead to knee-jerk reactions by regulators, risking regime arbitrage between countries."

Whatever that means.

The L.A. Lakers are on the brink of elimination.

Break them up!

The knee, when hit sharply and jerks involuntarily, is called the patellar reflex, and was first recorded by Sir Michael Foster in his 1877 study, “Text-book of physiology:”

"Striking the tendon below the patella gives rise to a sudden extension of the leg, known as the knee-jerk."



The term began to be used figuratively when O.O. McIntyre, in his New York Day-By-Day column in The Coshocton Tribune, October 1921, wrote this:



"Itinerant preacher stemming Broadway on a soap box. And gets only an occasional knee-jerk."



Later defined as this: an immediate unthinking emotional reaction produced by an event or statement that can be very predictable.



And none of us wants to be predictable, right?



Know your triggers beforehand says famed 20th century psychologist Karen Horney.

Anger management courses are filled with people who are guided into developing critical thinking instead of relying on their emotions.

Look at this list of buzzwords and phrases:

Conservative, liberal, right wing, left wing, welfare, gay marriage, gun control, etc.

Add some of your own.

They all trigger off immediate responses; we know what we're thinking before we're able to think.

What do you think?

Are knee-jerk reactions simply our refusal to upset our cozy world?

J. Peterman

 

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May 21, 2012 12:07 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

Wait! Before we jump into a knee-jerk reaction, let's first have a nice cuppa tea.

Strong and sweet.

Now, isn't that better?

May 21, 2012 1:05 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

restless leg syndrome can be cured by a hammer,as well....hahaha....and a rolled up news paper bopping someone on the head every time they put a cigarette in their mouth might help them quit, or duck....

May 21, 2012 1:30 AM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

We usta hit Uncle Eddie on the nose with a Newspaper, but it never stopped him from wetting his pants while sitting on the Velvet Couch .......
 
Donna Summer ... Robin Gibb ....... These thing seems to come in three's ... wonder who might be next? ...

May 21, 2012 2:53 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

'Morning all. Knee jerks? Hmmm - I have cut a nice hazel thumb stick from the woods and walk around in tripod. I blame gardeners soggy knee syndrome, as depicted in the recent discussion about organic vs conventional farming. My knees hurt.
Was it Chicken Licken who was always in a knee jerk panic running around screaming 'The sky is falling down'?
IVAN~ as you have experience in these matters, any advice on cleaning and deodourising soft furnishings?
RIP Robin Gibb - I have dug out an old vinyl album and am having a great time dancing around while stacking the dishwasher.

May 21, 2012 3:18 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

I remember when a certain Monty Python movie came out, and in it were the Knights who said "KNEE"...and there was a jerk in my office who after seeing said movie, also said that, constantly.....

May 21, 2012 5:41 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

At least we're not again being asked to talk about food.....

May 21, 2012 6:10 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Could you eat a bacon and egg sandwich, Bert?

May 21, 2012 7:51 AM
The_philosophy_tommy_typical_bookcover 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Knee jerks and middle fingers. Monkey Business. I like the occasional passion of a glob of emotion and then as the logic sinks in; shaping it like Play-doh into something that looks like it had some thought put into it. God's patience with the raging man in me me that beats his chest and rattles his cage over time replaces his sackcloth, washes his face and combs his hair and says forgive me...every little thing's gonna be alright. Bigger poisonous blowfish to stir fry.

May 21, 2012 9:43 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 George Hall said...

Nothing small ever happened to my dear old Uncle Bill. As he told it he on the border of "...losing his temper at all times.. something he never really did. But so we could be prepared and there be no knee-jerk reactions he'd warn us "Ya'll better watch out. I start losing my temper and you'll know it!" I loved my old Uncle Bill and Aunt Isabel and I miss them. Rest in peace both of you.

May 21, 2012 9:47 AM
10photoviewsFirst-comFirst-photo clotheshag said...

Korthal,
R.I.P. Robin Gibb, there are a lot of broken hearts out there, never to be mended...

May 21, 2012 10:10 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 George Hall said...

For most of us a morning walk with the dog is a quiet peaceful beginning of the day. For Uncle Bill it would be more like "I was out walking down that ridge there this morning when my  dog started chasing a deer. I was running trying to keep up and  when I topped the hill  it dropped off so steep on the backside  I was running so hard to keep from falling on my face my heels were hitting me in the back of my head! Wha-ha-=ha-ha!!!"

May 21, 2012 10:10 AM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

There are times when one (meaning myself) can’t help but
grin from ear to ear, knowing that the day’s topic is not only directed toward
but…well let’s put it this way,  I feel
like a rodeo calf that has been run down, roped, tied and branded by today’s
topic.  On the way to work today, I
passed a car being driven by some clown and I thought to myself…What a clown!  Although this clown had the traditional
painted white face, bulbous nose, over exaggerated red lips, bright orange hair
and lime green clown suit, I could have kicked myself for my knee jerk reaction
and my initial what a clown thought.  I can well imagine that this poor clown not only had a mother who loved and cared for him/her,
but staring back at me from across the road had the same knee jerk reaction to my
pasty face, big nose and bald pate and may have evinced a smidgen of jealousy
that I had come by this look honestly, sans make-up or surgery.  I drove on, grinning from ear to ear with a
little tear drop trickling down from the corner of my eye.  A tear of sadness? A tear of joy? Who
knows?  As most of my teachers would say…What a clown! and as most everyone else would
add…What a jerk!

 

As I see it, knee jerk reactions aren’t our refusal to upset our cozy world, they are our mandate to look
in the mirror and turn our cozy world upside down.

May 21, 2012 10:48 AM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

Is there a distinction between a knee jerk reaction and a gut instinct?  Where is Willie Trask when you need him?  The sheep's in the meadow, the cow's in the corn, but where is little Miss Blue?

May 21, 2012 11:40 AM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


George Hall ~
Your story about Uncle Bill reminded me of a ball game during which Craig Biggio playing center field for the Astros, bit face first chasing uphill a fly ball that had gone over his head and swear to God appeared actually to kick himself in the back of the head with both feet.
Then, he got up and chased down the ball… or somebody else did.
The point being, those guys are not like you and me.

http://www.petermanseye.com/photos/597951

May 21, 2012 11:50 AM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

Looks like Mr. P is back to a five day work week. Itinerant street preachers are probably more prevelant on the island of Manhattan than they are anywhere in the south.  Except maybe New Orleans.  The difference being they are preaching in the Big Apple and partying in the Big Easy.  Just a thought, just a thought.

May 21, 2012 12:33 PM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Re: May 17, 12:38 PM:
That comment was made in complete agreement with the previous point made by Park4.
A lurker has called me on it twice… a day since.

May 21, 2012 12:52 PM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


It is possible to remember a time and maybe the place had a lot to do with it too, when naming names, calling names and assigning categories for every kind of behavior, political, personal or social was just not done.
That, in part, is what made Joe McCarthy and his phony crusade against communists in every level of government so reprehensible.
The point being, there was not a lot, at that time and in that place, about which to respond reflexively.
I was bothered last night by painful left patella… the wrath of God?

May 21, 2012 1:18 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

MISS HAZEL:  Professional Upholterors, Antique Refinishers/Cleaners, and people who clean up after Fire/Smoke/Water Damage ... use any one of a number of preparations that are essentially Quaternary Amonium ... a Great disinfectant, and a Great Odor Killer ...
 
I'll tell you one thing for sure ... Antique Furniture, particularly that made in Europe and stuffed with Horsehair, does not respond real well to ANYthing ... the Protien thing, you know .......  ReStuffing is the surest way to go, to avoid feeling like you are sitting in a not-well-cooled Morgue, with bad ventilation .......
 
Out of Fabric alone, of all the Commercially available products, FEBREEZE is abut the best to be found for removing Odors and Odor Causing Bacteria ..., altho' I have no idea what y'all call it over there ...
 
Something hardly anyone ever thinks about, but important to remember;  Diseases are caused by Bacteria ....... Bad Odors are caused by Bacteria ....... Therefore, Bad Odors can cause Diseases .......  Especially important with small Children in the House ...
 
Find a Re-Sale Shop somewhere, and ask them what they have had the Best response with in cleaning Furniture before they put it up for sale .......
 
All the Best !!!

May 21, 2012 1:24 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

Made perfect sense to me, but Charles Bronson?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXQS4S3vgGA

 


May 21, 2012 2:21 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Thanks, Ivan~ recent visit from a pair of not quite potty trained children prompted my request.

May 21, 2012 5:56 PM
8251 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Kentucky Curmudgeon said...

Hello...? Is this thing on...?

{throat clearing}...

I have been mute of late but have stopped in from time to time and noticed a decline in comment count. Guess it could be the season with folks getting out and about.

Just thought I'd stop by and make my presence known.

I have no 'knee jerk' reactions or stories to tell. I find as one gets older it takes longer to recover from 'knee jerks' and as such have decided to be a bit more reflective.

That's not to say my blood pressure is always at a pleasurable level just that I try to avoid 'knee jerk' circumstances whenever possible.

So, a hearty "Hello" and "Good bye for now" to all in the village today...

May we keep our 'Jerks' to ourselves...

May 21, 2012 6:53 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Mooseloop said...

"You don't know what it's like.....to love somebody......."

RIP Robin Gibb....Thanks for the memories and great songs ... to all the BG's......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03EnayD1-mw&feature=relmfu

Nothing knee-jerk about having a strong, thought-out reaction to some of those buzz words when certain people and their past actions are represented. Some might call those reactions logical, wise, and something on which to vote.

May 21, 2012 7:07 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Carol said...

As proposed above by Mr. P....I, too, wonder what the difference is between "gut reaction" and "knee jerk response."   Usually we are told to trust our gut reaction....'if you don't feel safe leave the situation' 'it sounds too good to be true it probably is...'   and on the other hand we seem to feel that a knee jerk response is a more negative thing and are thought, oftentimes, to be the jerk personified.   Gut reaction is seen to prompt positive behaviour.  Knew jerk reaction is seen to prompt negative behaviour.   Hmmmmm.........

more on the honor roll
May 21, 2012 7:45 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

STONEY................if I pay you a $1.00 will you divulge said lurker????????????????????? Wouldja, wouldja, wouldja.....................
 
I agree, RIP Robin Gibb.............you & your brothers gave the world a lot of pleasure................
 
If you haven't had a colonoscopy..............please think about doing so..................

May 21, 2012 8:30 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

bebe~ THAT produced a knee jerk! Colonoscopy .............. Once is enough!
Saturday Night Fever buzzing round my brain. Duvet time in Wales. Nos da, dear people, x.

May 21, 2012 9:07 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Stoney:  I have a knee jerk reaction to the term "lurker."   I'll see bebe's buck and raise it a buck if only you would, c'mon wouldja wouldja?

May 21, 2012 9:08 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Good night, Hazel.  Sweet dreams will bless Wales tonight.  Enjoy them.

May 21, 2012 9:10 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Why are we/you talking about having a  colonoscopy?  Just wondering how it is that I so often miss the segue... And, should I worry that I so often do?

May 21, 2012 9:27 PM
28961 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 Ummgawa said...

Knee jerk reaction...I've been accused of that after stewing over something for days. Discovered if you are gonna get accused, go ahead and let the knee jerks fly. It all pays the same.

May 21, 2012 9:33 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

PARK....................hey shweetpea...............Robin Gibb died of colon cancer, so I thought it a nice little thought in his direction............it sounds like he had a brutal battle w/ it................my grandfather also died of colon cancer long ago.........................I agree, lurker is a creepy word.........................

May 21, 2012 9:49 PM
The_philosophy_tommy_typical_bookcover 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

I was thinking this evening of The Oak Barrel on Water Street in Milwaukee a hangout of mine years ago and they kept a jar of venison "jerky" on the bar. It was a fine watering hole in its day. I still have a cigar cutter they gave me. We ducked in there on a whim after a rough day a "knee jerk" reaction to a deal gone south of sorts. Ended up nicely & a favorite haunt for a season or two. One of those old pernicious haunts that placed the Phillistine in me in temporary retreat. One must remain open to those "permanent reminders" as fleeting as they may seem to be.

KC-aloha and mahalo. Blessings to you, Sir

May 21, 2012 10:25 PM
Penn_station1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Penn said...


A famous (well to me) Army Medic didn't need a hammer at my Patellar; all he needed was his boney knuckle to make my knee jump.  And if the truth be told; he didn't even need that.

May 22, 2012 5:45 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

KC....................good to see you!
 
PENN........................very mysterious post.........................

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As proposed above by Mr. P....I, too, wonder what the difference is between "gut reaction" and "k...

-Carol

May. 21, 2012 7:07 PM

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