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With the breadbox making a comeback, what more from the lost items of "Kitchen Atlantis" are returning?

 

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"What is a Maine-born doctor to do when a patient in Pennsylvania complains, "I've been riftin' and I've got jags in my leaders?"

Tell him to see another doctor?

“Consult the Dictionary of American Regional English to learn that the patient has been belching and experiencing sharp pains in his neck.”

That was the website Wispolitics proudly pointing out an achievement from their own state and illustrating its importance:

After over five decades of work in all at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, the fifth volume of the dictionary is now available, covering Sl to Z.

The “Dictionary of American Regional English (DARE),” is based on interviews researchers conducted in more than 1,000 communities across the country between 1965 and 1970, and 1,800 audio recordings. 

We've talked regional dialects before in these pages — the difference between the way outsiders pronounce "New Orleans" and the local's, "Nawlins."

But at least they're in a normal range of difference.

How exactly do you account for "snollygoster" and "willywags?"

The different regional language for the strip of grass between the sidewalk and the street?

Boulevard, devil strip, grass plot, neutral ground, parking, parking strip, parkway, terrace, tree bank, tree belt, and tree lawn are just a few of them.

It certainly challenges the commonly held notion that our language has become "homogenized."

There are over a thousand maps indicating where each word originated.

Volume 6 is on its way.

No confusion here.

I think.

J. Peterman

 

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February 29, 2012 1:32 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

I'd tell the 'height challenged' lady to get shorter boots to make her sensitive area chafing go away....ba dum..bum..  old joke well visualised

February 29, 2012 1:35 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

there are terms of art in every profession,and they are just as difficult to convey across regional boundries....but a universal self congratuliang one that I have long used; Finer than frog hair

February 29, 2012 1:36 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Regional words are like the cherries in a fruitcake.

February 29, 2012 1:38 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

Oh, and by the way, I believe I've just seen a Snollygostor Bloviating

February 29, 2012 1:59 AM
P4051701 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Seapansie said...

Debolted is a word I used, meaning to me perplexed, can't figure it out, or preplexed, completely taken off guard, but the word and words do or does not exist and is something I made up....when the kids and I were trying to arrive at a swimmeet and a bolt a lightning struck near the arrival at the sport competition meet complex.I said, " Kids...I have been just debolted..or I feel debolted...I was struck by lightning..in the deep South...naw, just joshing..ya.....I used as ever since to mean ooops....we've been re-directed...to....whatever!

February 29, 2012 2:28 AM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

Anybody else in this Village know what, "Boontling" is ???

February 29, 2012 6:42 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

Morning RY, HAZE, VR, & IVAN................late to the shower...........ugh..........
 
IVAN.................it sounds vaguely hunting, bootlegging, good ol' boy inspired.............I am baffled. Do tell.................... well kids, have a wunnerful day................I may stop for a bacon biscuit w/ grape jelly............it just sounds lik the right thing to do..................

February 29, 2012 7:26 AM
Me 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

I tried looking it up, IVAN, and it has several meanings apparently.  Either it's language spoken in Boonville NC or something to do wih hops in the brewing of beer.  Since it is you that asked, it could be either......and yes, please tell.                                    In Baltimore (Bawlmore) it seems that they have their own language but it is as above, regional.  I grew up thinking that Highlandtown and Hollandtown were two different places -- it's Highlandtown.  They blur a lot of the hard sounds, but it's not quite southern.  Offhand though, I can't think of one that I would readily identify as a word used here.   After coffee maybe.

February 29, 2012 7:41 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

People who worked in the pottery industry in Stoke-on-Trent, UK would change from street clothes to a ganzi and trashers on arrival at the factory. A ganzi is an old, usually mis-shapen cardigan or pullover, trashers are the old comfy shoes that you couldn't bear to throw out. The technical language of the pottery trade is wonderful - there really is such an occupation as a saggar makers bottom knocker.

February 29, 2012 7:53 AM
Me 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

Oh HAZEL thank you -- great stuff.

February 29, 2012 8:50 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

I have a big fat dictionary of English slang. It's terrible! Every time I go into it, I get diverted and laughing. Having accidentaly boarded the trian and arriived in the Vllage, I now have  to grapple with American English and Yiddish! I love it.

February 29, 2012 9:16 AM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

Nothing so wicked interesting here. For me getting used to the definition of "regulah" as pertains to food was difficult. A "meatless grindah" is a cheese sandwich..a regulah peppa is only green, never red or yellow. A regulah cake is yellow with chocolate icing. Oh, how could I forget the "regulah grinda" which is a salami sandwich. thats, "regulah" salami none of that fancy GenOHa stuff.

Of course grinder is another translation for what I grew up calling a "hero" but then there are also subs, bulkies, po'boys, etc. pretty much all the same (crust depends on local water usually). A hahd roll is called a kaiser roll in NYC.

I am sure I will think of more but right now I am going to make some wicked good chowda.

February 29, 2012 9:23 AM
P4051701 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Seapansie said...

Boontling is the Boonville, North Carolina tongue; Elvis Presley spoke Boontling in a sexy way voice...coon hunters speak this way, too. A draw of the North Carolina twang...voice...very nice...and to the point...dialect of the feeling heart...passion with nature...so it comes off sexy....alittle..it is about the nature the animals...too....I would need to live there to really understand...but just now I looked at Wikipedia...there you go: glow worm means lantern and can-kicky means fight...and looks like they used nature to design wordage to avoid letting their elders knowing what they were thinking...see how the youngins appleheads advance everyone...new generation...Charlied...that I have heard way up in New York mountains where a young boy is chased and charlied...very bad thing to do, bucky - a nickel...heard that....and hoot- too laugh heard that....they had alot of fister-fighting words too...tough clan...tough - guy wordage..that is something we have hard working break backing people..and they are misconstured as bad...but these are a people who are hard working mountain people...and have their own mannerisms....I always say you can not or should not curb a youths spirit..because that is a part of their nature..their life work farming, logging, street survivor they live tough and talk tough.... girls and boys need their fighting spirit or aggressive ways, "the fight," for the real survival traits needed to go forth in this world...Boonville is a logging and farmer territory...their language is some can-kicking stuff...and ya would talk this way too..if you had to chase down racks-coons...for higgs-money.
I have picture of hundreds and hundreds of glow worms at nite..so we still havein them..here too...Hey little glow warm glitter glitter..famous song..I gotta run so not able to correct typos...see ya later alligator..

February 29, 2012 9:27 AM
28961 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 Ummgawa said...

arshtaters- what my greatly missed Grandma would boil, then mash with "sweetmilk and butter" to perfection. AKA Irish Potatoes...

February 29, 2012 9:43 AM
First-comHr-1 bobedaone said...

When I lived in Nova Scotia, Canada, I was corrected on a few: Ohhhh.. You mean fill-im (film) Ohhh.. You want fill-its (filets) Ohh...You mean catty corner (kitty corner) Ohh..wreck havoc (wreak havoc) Oh..You want to look at neck-laces (necklace) Those are just a few that made me smile when corrected.

February 29, 2012 9:51 AM
4188 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photo Penelopetx said...

Good morning everyone - got my coffee and read Mr. P's topic.  It is funny that "Neutral Ground" was mentioned - my family was visiting the relatives in New Orleans.  (I was born there and have never called it 'Nawlins' - but then I am no longer "local".)  My father was giving instructions on how to get to particular restaurant and kept using the term 'neutral ground'.  As we drove to the restaurant, my former husbanc kept looking around for the 'neutral ground' thinking there would be signage stating as such.  As if it were NEUTRAL during the Civil War...... former husband was from DEEP West Texas....
 
ChefDeb - I can hear the accents in your description - what kind of chowda?????

February 29, 2012 10:11 AM
Tommy_at_anchor_high 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

If you ain't fer me you are agin me, sum bitch. Just watch JUSTIFIED for some Eastern Kentucky/East Tennessee mouthifications. Elmore Leonard's work Fire in the Hole has been adapted to a great piece of TV with this show.  He is 84 and still as good as ever. "I don't take ‘em too seriously," says the legendary author of crime novels and Westerns like "Out of Sight," "Get Shorty" and "3:10 to Yuma." When your main character is Marshall Raylan Givens there ain't no telling what might me said. Sliicker than Snail Snot.

February 29, 2012 11:03 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Carol said...

There's always the obvious regionalism of 'soda', 'pop', 'soda pop' 'sodey', and 'sodey pop'---all of which I've heard in reference to a carbonated beverage.   I remember some people referring to the "zinc" meaning their sink. "just put your dirty dish in the zinc"

February 29, 2012 11:16 AM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


"Slipper" was run by the DARE people years ago and it was a relief to find that it was too local and crude to have caught their attention… wild horses will never...
But, as a practical matter, it is applied to certain persons, mostly women, who spend the day before the cleaning lady comes, cleaning, or give the dog a bath before taking the dog in for a bath.
There are exceptions: five old coffee shop men, widowed, with wives in nursing homes or, in one case, a bachelor, hired a beautiful Hispanic woman, with a small boy, to clean, do laundry and cook one dish, one day each per week.
They all stayed away from home the day she was there and paid her what was, for that time, a lot of money. 
Thinking that they were alone, she said to one of them: "Please, Meester Dennees, don' be foldin' no dirty laundry or matchin' up socks. It makes me sad."

TMBWITW read about the passing at ninety-four of one of her old nursing home pals, Midge. She hadn't seen her the last time she was there because…
"Too far gone?" I guessed.
"Yes," she answered.
A little light came on over my head and I spent fifteen minutes on iTunes trying to choose which version of "Too Far Gone" was the better investment of 99¢.
It was a tough call the top candidates being: Emmylou Harris, Elvis Costello and the gold standard, Tammy Wynnette.
I picked two.
But I don't want you to worry about us. It isn't always that intense around here.

Carol ~
The boys down the street were told by their mom to worsh up in the zinc.


February 29, 2012 11:19 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

A related issue is the inability of many people to spell things correctly.  Perhaps it's intentional,  sort of a cultural thing.  Perhaps it's a reflection of what has happened to our secondary schools in some jurisdictions.  My daughter recently graduated from a public high school in Adams County, Ohio, which is actually in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains.  She was never penalized for misspellings in any of her rare homework assignments.  The same rule applied for tests.  Phonetic spellings & slang were largely acceptable, since  the administration didn't have either the time or the interest to make proper spelling & grammar a priority.  I guess in an area where there is already a large group of the student body that never graduates it's considered political suicide to flunk everybody.So they can't or won't figure out that we teach English largely because we are supposed to avoid functional illiteracy in our native tongue.   Luckily she starts college in August as a dorm student in a more structured environment.   How do I remember the date for the road trip to get her moved in?  On the refrigerator is a printout of an email I received that responded to my question:  "Daddy,  I start skewl (sic.) in August."   AAARRRGGGHHH!!!! 

February 29, 2012 11:19 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

A related issue is the inability of many people to spell things correctly.  Perhaps it's intentional,  sort of a cultural thing.  Perhaps it's a reflection of what has happened to our secondary schools in some jurisdictions.  My daughter recently graduated from a public high school in Adams County, Ohio, which is actually in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains.  She was never penalized for misspellings in any of her rare homework assignments.  The same rule applied for tests.  Phonetic spellings & slang were largely acceptable, since  the administration didn't have either the time or the interest to make proper spelling & grammar a priority.  I guess in an area where there is already a large group of the student body that never graduates it's considered political suicide to flunk everybody.So they can't or won't figure out that we teach English largely because we are supposed to avoid functional illiteracy in our native tongue.   Luckily she starts college in August as a dorm student in a more structured environment.   How do I remember the date for the road trip to get her moved in?  On the refrigerator is a printout of an email I received that responded to my question:  "Daddy,  I start skewl (sic.) in August."   AAARRRGGGHHH!!!! 

February 29, 2012 11:43 AM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

MISS BEBE & MISS ANDY & MISS VIOLET ROSE:   I had no idea that there was a place in North Carolina call'd, Booneville ... but of course, that doesn't mean it can't be .... especially in view of the fact that there is a Bloomington in every State in the Lower Forty-Eight ...  I was thinking about Booneville , California ... in Mendocino County ... up by the Dog Leg .......  THERE, was where I first heard a local Colloquy call'd, "Boontling" ... and was at once delighted and intrigued by two of their aphorisms in particular;  "BUCKYWALTER" is what the Locals call'd the only Pay Phone in Town, because it was on a pole, in the sidewalk, out in front of the Town's only Drug Store, own'd by a fellow named, Buck Walter ....... and the other neat little verbal blivit was, "APPLEHEAD", which is what Booneville denizens call a Feller's Girlfriend ... whether she is a Redhead or not, because the man who finally Named Booneville, and built the second of two Hotels in the Town, did indeed have a Girlfriend, and she was a Red Head ... Eventually, hair color meant nothing, especially because it was popular back then to give the Old Hen a Rinse, and Red seemed to be a popular choice ... so, all Girlfriends are, Appleheads .......

February 29, 2012 11:50 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Bert~ How nice to see you twice!
I think there is confusion  between slang and pronunciation.

February 29, 2012 11:55 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 George Hall said...

Southern talk: M R Dux M R Not! O S A R. C M Wangs?   L I B! M R dux!  Translated: Them are ducks. Them are not. Oh, yes they are. See them wings. Well, I'll be! Them are ducks!

February 29, 2012 12:16 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Carol said...

In the Northeast US "frappe" (frap) is a milkshake.  In the rest of the world a frappe (frap-pay) it usually refers to a fruity slush or an after dinner liqueur poured over shaved ice.

February 29, 2012 12:16 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

I understand completely how Boontling came about, and I admire the creativity of the people, as well as why, things mean what they do ... But I think it is patently stupid, that we continue to invent words in the English Language, a lot of which are Slang, and force the study of Ebonics and other oddities, when English has not really been taught during the last half century, and people are being Graduated from High Schools and even some reputable Colleges, that can neither Speak nor Write English correctly ... and a lot of that is because during the 60's and 70's, the Great Guilty White Liberal Trip was going on like a run-away Train, and EEOC Candidates who could barely speak intellibibly and may never have gone to High School, having gotten pregnant at age thirteen, were being given Teaching Certificates to promote Racial Equality, along with Bussing people out of District, in order to load the Classes evenly ... You can get your Liberal asses up over the Dashboard all you want to, but History tells us it is a matter of FACT !!!  The English Language suffered greatly in the process ... And all other forms of strife increased horrifically, some of y'all may remember ... It is beyond sad, when SAT's have to be Graded on a Bell Curve, just so we don't hurt anybody's feelings ...
 
I am a firm believer that Men should dwell together peacefully, as Brother ... and that we should get together and Reason together, to keep the Peace ... but Life has taught me, that it is impossible to Legislate Appetite ... and yet, we continue to be Force Fed things not of our own choosing ... The entire mess is difficult to understand, because the Words and Rhetoric being used in the fray, are NOT proper English ... by and large ... and in the confusion there can be no conclusion ... Proper Communication depends upon all parties involved being able to, UNDER  STAND what is being said ... NOT Interpret, but understand ... and we have let the American Language, and Culture, and Mores ... got right down the crapper ....... Look at how well it has all turned out !!! BTW;   Start Studying Arabic .......

February 29, 2012 12:24 PM
Img00274-20110613-1309 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 l marjorie said...

The differences between New Jersey, Minnesota, Northern IL, and SE Wisconsin aren't enough for me to have much to say on this subject.  I did go from soda to pop back to soda again, and there are some minor pronounciation issues, but nothing like what you all describe above.  Maybe I never got too regionalized in the New Jersey speak because both my parents were originally from the midwest. In fact, when I moved out here back in the early 70's I always said that I felt like I had finally come home.
 
I will say, working for a TX-based company, I did move from you guys to you all...

February 29, 2012 12:38 PM
Tommy_at_anchor_high 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

George- Well done. I can see my Uncle Tom speaking those words with an unfiltered Pall Mall moving in sync with his lips.

February 29, 2012 12:52 PM
28961 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 Ummgawa said...

WatsaMaofichoo. One word. Translated:

What's the matter with you?

February 29, 2012 1:20 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

In the Northeast, a Frappe is a milkshake unless its in Rhode Island. Then its a "cabinet."

February 29, 2012 1:43 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-5 Georgia said...

Never do I tire of regional differences; I've long had the book, and recommend it to any who write or, who simply love words and colloquoalisms.  Apparently new editions to come, so I'm already behind.
 
The more we mingle, mix, move elsewhere, and welcome with our golden door "...{your} tired, {your} poor, {your} huddled masses yearning to breathe free," the more we may lose our precious differences. I hope that never happens.  Foods, accent, pronunciation, and the words we choose label us, but I believe it's for the better.  Each new wave of immigrants enriches our language; thereby, us. (I wonder, though, when if ever I'll be a 'native American.' My forebears arrived in 1700 when there was no Ellis Island to greet them.  With others, they made their own way, inventing what they needed. Resourcefulness creativity, inventiveness were essentiel. Like most English and Scots-Irish settlers, they arrived in Philadelphia, stayed long enough to earn a living, take a wife, and move South.
Or to Appalachia, perhaps some, West.)
 
The book Mr. P recommends makes fascinating reading.  

February 29, 2012 2:12 PM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Georgia ~
That's what I like about the South(erners). Just the facts Ma'am without blame or condescension.
I'll hop aboard the condemn-our-children-and-grandchildren-for-their-carelessness-and-indifference bandwagon the first time I hear anyone take responsibility: "Where did I go wrong."
It hasn't happened yet.
Face it my friends the past and all that it represented ( it was not quite as rosy as we remember), is gone. Long gone and it is up to us, instead of mourning its passing to get on with dealing with the events and players we are left with.
I am old, dull, and coming undone around the edges but I kind of like the idea.
We are not our parents. Our children are not us… twas ever thus.

February 29, 2012 4:18 PM
1-067_6_ 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

True, Stoney.  Very much true.  I was just hearing on teevee something I never knew:  that parents don't have the right to read their children's text messages, they need a warrant to get the info from the provider.  Oh bullpoo on that.  Who's dumb idea was that?  Thing is, with our children, we need to start them out knowing full well that children don't have rights.  No they don't.  Whatever rights they get will be given by me and by their father, and they will be a long time coming, and moreover, rights will be earned and (very important) they can be taken away by the same loving mom and dad who gave them........It's amazing when you take this responsibility of rights away from your babies from the get-go - and take the responsibility upon yourselves and parent (verb) consistently all the time with the idea that kids don't have rights until I give them rights - what is graduated from secondary school will most probably be a kid with their head on straight and well prepared in every way to go away to college......This has been my experience and we've seen great success with our daughter who's now grown and raising their 3 children in the same manner-- As for me not being able to read my kids' text messages without a warrant? God I love the federal intrusive government - (this is my area of expertise,  Oh Government, my family my job my business) If my child would be so misguided as to refuse access to the phone to her father or myself - well, then, the subject will be a non-subject when the smart phone gets taken away........ Responsibility belongs and begins at home with mom and dad.  It's hard work, but worth spending 18 years or so to do well.

February 29, 2012 4:39 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

PENELOPEtx--"making the chowda" is our family's way to say "time to make the donuts." BUT it reminds me of an off topic story about chowders. Manhattan is the red one, New England is the white creamy one and Rhode Island has clear broth (just clam juice). For some reason Corn Chowder is called Maryland Corn Chowder but then everyone thinks it has crab, but it doesn't, it has bacon.

Anyway I moved up here and opened a restaurant in a boatyard that was owned by 3 men--a father & his 2 sons. I gave them free coffee and soup privileges (help yourself but stay out of the way). Everyday I made a soup and chowder. I was warned that chowder was a necessity for the tourists (turned out to be a necessity for the locals). I had always made a good N.E. Chowder. Well, they tasted it each day and they would say "well its good, but..." with a little head shake and a shrug. I tinkered with it, I became obsessed with it and could never get rid of the head shake and shrug. Finally one day I was incredibly busy doing some paperwork and someone came into the office to say "what about the chowder?" and I said, "You know what, that salesman brought me a big can of it the other day as a sample. Screw it, open it and serve that."

Finally! A huge success! Perfect all around. After that I began to relax a little about my cooking.

February 29, 2012 4:43 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

STONEY & PARK you are both right and correct about our children and our responsibility to them. My philosophy pretty much was the same as yours Park, but I have to say I have 2 children and the results were not equal. Although they are both well spoken and have nice manners, one of them at times seems to me must have been switched in the nursery. In some ways they are exactly as they were in the delivery room and I think we're hatched as we are. But thats too simplistic I know. I am going through so much with one child (age 30) right now I can hardly wrap my head around it.

February 29, 2012 4:48 PM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...

Park4 & ChefDeb ~What they're talking about there is messages on the server, not on the phone. You can't even access your own on their server which is odd.
I remember one of our kids having an off semester and her mother withheld permission to "The biggest event ever... everybody is going."
You know the deal.
I don't know what it was but she was crushed when I backed her mother's decision.
I was almost out to the truck when she screamed: "You have no right!"
Slowly I turned... back into the house: "What?"
"Never mind!"
She is our only advanced degree holder and taught college courses.
You're right. We have a right and a responsibility.

February 29, 2012 4:53 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...



Miss Park ~ someone needs to tell this dad he can't

read his daughter's messages...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1ujzRidmU

 

February 29, 2012 5:05 PM
Img00274-20110613-1309 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 l marjorie said...

I have two cats. I have had cats my whole life. A couple of years ago, a neighbor gave me a book as a gag gift. It was a copy of How to Speak Cat, The Essential Primer of Cat Language by Alesandra Sellers.  The gag is that this was a serious book.  The inside cover says, "How to Speak Cat is the ultimate, comprehensive, and authoritative guide to communicating with your cat in your cat's own language.  Alexandra Sellers (who has mastered seven human languages) studied the language of Cat for many, many years and ultimately uncovered its secrets.  Here, for the first time, this language--complete with extensive vocabulary and proper grammer--is revealed."
 
Example: Mow: moa (a1) ma'ar miaow  means I am going to tell you something.
 
There are lessons and everything. 
 
Can you believe this? Now the question is, does this only work for cats living in the northeast, or wherever Ms. Sellers is from? (the book doesn't say)  What if the cat is from Texas?  We all know they talk different down there!  Will the sequel be the international version?

February 29, 2012 5:12 PM
Tommy_at_anchor_high 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Cats. Cat's Cradle. Vonnegut rambling about granfalloons or what one might describe as groups based on fabricated crap. For instance, If you wish to study a granfalloon, just remove the skin of a toy balloon. Confusion here. Methinks.

 

February 29, 2012 5:33 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

I wonder if DARE has an entry for berting.

February 29, 2012 5:33 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

I wonder if DARE has an entry for berting.

February 29, 2012 5:41 PM
Img00274-20110613-1309 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 l marjorie said...

My mother's word for a rear end was a pokahontas--has anyone ever heard of that?

February 29, 2012 6:18 PM
Com-100First-com spring rain said...

"git cheer" means "come here"   "git!" is what one tells a dog who they desire to leave the premises.  I've heard people say, "I'm gonna fix me a mess of corn pone and beans."  Actually, "corn pone" --corn bread--comes form the Indian word appapone.  "kiver" instead of "cover" ""The crick is flooding" means the creek is flooding. . . . . . Munroe should be Monroe. . .  Hillbilly dialect

February 29, 2012 6:58 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

I know this is going to sound condescending and there is
good reason. Being from the Midwest, the cradle of language, the standard by
which all other tongues are now judged, I have no accent and no colloquialisms
to share. The king’s English is inconsequential to me.  You may tell me I talk funny but that doesn’t
change the reality that if you want a job in broadcasting with a major network
you damm well ought to be able to talk like I talk, walk like I walk, sulk like
I sulk. I know the difference between schnookered and schnockered, and I have
at one time or more than another been both.

 

I wonder how many of the expressions compiled by DARE have
been lost in usage over the forty years that it has taken to sort through all
the interviews, to record and to catalogue the expressions.  I really like Merriam-Webster’s Kory Stamper… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFyY2mK8pxk

Octopuses, octopi, octopodes.  I could sit and watch her jaw for hours, not
to mention her furrowed brow and pursed lips.

 

Is Madison still the center of the universe or did the poles
shift?

February 29, 2012 8:20 PM
1-067_6_ 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Madison has earned a new name:  the Banana Republic of Madison.   Because it pretty much does what it wants to do regardless of the laws on da books re: the entire state of Wisconsin - because it can.  For the moment, anyhow.  

February 29, 2012 8:29 PM
1-067_6_ 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

paolos:  love that 6:58.  You do have a way with words, midwestern or otherwise.  As for that gun crazed dad in the video, yeah, a real Jesse James when shooting up a computer.  I prefer the Stoney approach, or mine, with the reminder that "I brought you into this world, and I can take you out."  Metaphorically speaking, of course.  Then I take the phone.  In the sweet revenge category:  my daughter called today and relayed the info that she's now had to take some favorite game or toy I forget - not electronic - from her eldest's room because he wouldn't mind about something or other.  Up in goes, into her closet.  She said it was such a flashback to her childhood, when I'd remove a favorite something or other (or, later, her phone) and put it into my closet for "the duration" which varied according to the crime.  She said as she was marching down her hallway from her sulking 8 year old's room and into hers she had a mental flash of me doing the same thing, 25 years ago - more the change, more the same thing.  It was worth a smile, then a good size laugh.  She's only just begun...

February 29, 2012 8:40 PM
1-067_6_ 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Here's a regional phrase that I don't think has been mentioned - and it falls into the childhood crime and punishment commentary:  I first heard it in the much-loved To Kill A Mockingbird, where Scout warns her brother Jem that if "you ain't careful, Atticus is going to wear you out." Atticus never did wear Jem out, so I don't know what it would entail, but I can imagine.  And I'm sure Atticus never did wear Jem out, because like all good fathers, he knew that the threat of it hanging out there was worth far more than the actuality.

February 29, 2012 9:59 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

Miss Park ~ I appreciate Stoney's Slowly I turned.  The disturbing news is that parents are becoming afraid to be parents.  There was the mother in Arkansas who made her 10 year old son walk to school because he was kicked off the bus for bad behaviour.  She was arrested, charged with child endangerment.  Then the mother who prepared a lunch for her daughter that wasn't up to government standards and the school took it away and gave the kid chicken nuggets and sent the turkey sandwich packing. Someone needs to wear out the backsides of these government mules.

February 29, 2012 10:03 PM
Img_4875 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

One of life's simple pleasures is stumbling across a more colourful, often interesting alternative for your familiar words and phrases. Adding such words and phrases to your quiver of communication arrows can put a secret smile on your face and a bit of swagger to your speech.

I think they also nudge folks back into the listening mode which can be good........maybe

February 29, 2012 10:27 PM
012 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Penn said...

Regional english can be fun and dangerous.

Take for instance, "Do you wanna go to da kine?" (Pacific Island regional English) Depending on where the speakers head is nodding it could mean the market, the beach, or the altar.

I'll leave you to decide which location is fun or dangerous.

more on the honor roll
February 29, 2012 10:36 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

PARK & STONEY.......................I agree 100% w/ your take on parenting & it being the parent's responsibility, not the gov't. Hear, hear!
 
PAOLOS...........Stoney was most correct, you DID deserve it! (I just had some canned Skyline chili..........i covered it w/ chopped onions & shredded cheddar............mmmmmmmmm.................)
 
GEORGE HALL...............your 11:55 gave me great pleasure!
 
CHEFD...................you are a good woman, just wanted you to know that!

February 29, 2012 10:55 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

Hey PENN............I swer to you, when I wrote my post yours was not there......................hope all is good in your neck of the woods.....................

February 29, 2012 11:12 PM
P4051701 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Seapansie said...

Jalopkin..Ivan..interesting reference of talk and thoughts...hmmm..english langauge is sure neat....and cow-poking fun....!!!There were so many interesting..stories and uses of words that I never heard!  ********************************************************** ****************Ok village did you see there is a special "Talent Show" tomorrow on March 1st here on the "Eye"....can anyone shed light on this  matter: ###Taro , my Akita, I am yelling at Taro get a good sleep tonite.....early to bed ....and early to rise to prepare a couple fine tricks for tomorrows Grand Gala Performance on the"Eye!" nighty night!!!
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February 29, 2012 11:30 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 Mooseloop said...

Park4 - Love your tale of the daughter dealing out discipline ala mom!! Yea!! Exactly the way I dealt with the kids' misbehavior..."Take away" always got their attention!! Once I had to take away my teen daughter's makeup, clothes (all except jeans and a T shirt), hairdryer, but it got her to focus and she learned to pay attention. Later, it was the car after 2 speeding tickets, but again, take away made the point. Good on you and yours! ( Oh, puhleeze with the overly cautious law enforcement that finds fault with the parent making the kid walk to school ! "Tough love" I say!!)
There is a big difference between discipline and abuse....we know it.

Likewise, the term "wear you out" was a threat that I heard as a child from grandparents and mother, and learned to fear, as well as to heed.

I understand that tomorrow, March 1 in Wales is St. David's Day, and a cause of celebration among the Welsh, so maybe Hazel will tell us all about it.....Something about "doing the little things!"

Honor Roll


Regional english can be fun and dangerous.

Take for instance, "Do you wanna go to da kine?" ...

-Penn

Feb. 29, 2012 10:27 PM

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