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Out of our Gourds

October 29, 2010

With Halloween getting ghoulishly closer, I thought I'd forego my usual, what is it about this holiday that makes everyone go mad, since nobody really knows, and concentrate on something we can make a great martini out of.

I thought I'd get your attention.

Yes, the pumpkin — references date back to 5500 BC.

First, the obligatory, though essential, why is this gourd part of this holiday?

And then, why it's virtually ignored after that.

Is there not a pumpkin council to say, it’s not just for Halloween anymore?

As Henry David Thoreau once said, and it was certainly worth saying only once, “I would rather sit on a pumpkin, and have it all to myself, than be crowded on a velvet cushion.”

Anyway, the practice of carving them up originated from an Irish myth about a man nicknamed "Stingy Jack."

It's an elaborate story, as only the Irish can concoct, and best told over a few Jameson's.

Seems Stingy Jack invited the Devil to have a drink with him and true to his name didn't want to pay for his drinks. So he convinced the Devil to turn himself into a coin that Jack could use to buy their drinks.

The Devil, as you would expect, thought that was a mean trick, and banished Jack, eventually, to a soulless wandering in the dark with only a burning coal to light his way.

This, if you can believe, is the condensed version.

The Irish began to refer to this ghostly figure as "Jack of the Lantern," and then "Jack O'Lantern."

In Ireland, Scotland and England, people began to make their own versions of Jack's lanterns by carving scary faces into turnips, potatoes and beets and placing them into windows to frighten away various other wandering evil spirits.

Naturally it fit right in with Halloween.

Immigrants then brought the tradition to the U.S. and found that this fruit, (and it is) originally from Latin America, made a great "Jack."

Nice hard round surface. Easy carving.

Pumpkins turned into pie when the colonists sliced off the pumpkin top, removed the seeds, and then filled it with milk, spices, honey and baked it.

So what do we do with them now?

Find some smaller sized pumpkins that have a tender and sweet flavor in your local market.

Just about anything you use squash for, pureed pumpkin will do.

Besides pies, soups, and stews, there's muffins, dumplings, and the famous Pumpkin Martini.

Looking for an idea to feed the little monsters come Sunday?

Pumpkin cookies are the answer.

But I'm sure you must have some ideas of your own.

Or make some up.

On the Friday before Halloween, it's okay to be slightly out of your gourd.

J. Peterman

 

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October 29, 2010 1:05 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

But how do you fill the punkins with BOOOO!!!

October 29, 2010 1:10 AM
800 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Michael said...

RY: you forgot two letters . . . "z" and "e"

October 29, 2010 1:25 AM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

I make both Pies and Soup out of Pumpkin ... Very tasty and very Nutritious ... Both are worth the time and effort ...

October 29, 2010 1:41 AM
29311 10photoviewsFirst-comFirst-photoHr-1 S.Blume said...

I don't care at all for pumpkin.. or gingerbread. Two flavors that seem to dominate the holiday season... That said.. if I found a really good pumpkin mojito, I might be willing to give it a try. 

more on the honor roll
October 29, 2010 1:45 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

Michael~ please forgive me. A spiced rum,prhaps?

October 29, 2010 5:12 AM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

I'm Tellin' Ya Guys ... Try it with Templeton Rye ... Only available in Iowa, and in the most discriminating Package Store in Chicago ....... But, Well Worth the Trip !!!!!!!

October 29, 2010 5:25 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

What does happen to all those pumpkins that don't get chosen for a Halloween feast? There must be tons of them.
I've been dying for a reason to say something like this for months:-
I got knocked up by the plumber this morning. Ha!Ha!Ha!
It's amazing what they can do with an old boiler.....
In English, as she is spoke proper on this side of the water, that means I was awoken this morning by loud knocking on my front door. It was the plumber, who had come to fix my central heating.
During the industrial revolution & for many years after, many of the workers in mills, mines & factories did not own a relible clock, never mind a alarm clock. Industry ran on 3 8hour shifts a day, which plays havoc with the body-clock of a country bumpkin come to the town to make a living - so the bosses employed gangs of lads known as "knocker-uppers" to go round the houses, knocking on doors to ensure that the workforce would turn up on time for the next shift.
 
 
 
 

October 29, 2010 6:19 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

Tried  a  bottle  of  tolerable "pumpkin  ale"  recently.   Saved  the  bottle,  filled  it  with  water  and  recapped  it.  My  Carved  pumpkin  is  going  to  portray  an  intoxicated  goblin.....

October 29, 2010 6:26 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

There's a local fundraising event for a good cause. They rigged up a catapult for pumpkins atop a sledding hill. For $5 you get to launch your pumpkin, prizes for marksmanship & distance. For $3 you can purchase a pumpkin donated by stores with leftovers. Judges will be at a table, with signs containing numbered placards. After a launch, like the olympics, judges hold up scoring cards.... I'll try to get a tolerable tape to post on YouTube. Some offices and agencies are forming up teams, complete with faux uniforms. Volunteers wanted to be targets, politicians would likely be in high demand, and notwithstanding the risk of injury we know they'll do anything for a free clip on the evening news....

October 29, 2010 6:40 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

IVAN.........I would love to have a bowl of your pumpkin soup w/ some butter, homemade croutons floating on top & of course you to serve it in the sepia train..............An evening w/ IVAN.....sounds good!
 
BERT..........When I talked w/ my brother yesterday he had just had a pumpkin latte which sounds utterly repulsive...........your ale sounds much more palatable...........you better cut off your pumpkin....................before it's too late...........

October 29, 2010 7:21 AM
Myself 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Spring Fragrance said...

Will have to sit this one out as have never celebrated Halloween before. Not even sure of the background to this celebration. BUt wishing you all a happy holiday!

October 29, 2010 7:39 AM
First-comHr-1 galgito said...

Growing up New England we had pun'kins all around at autumn (sometimes smashed on the road); the best version of pumpkin-anything was the English teacher retelling "The Tale of Sleepy Hollow", lights out, shades pulled, and a pumpkin lit up on the desk (you could do that in those days).  Deliciously shiver-y! I'll put in a say for pumpkin pie (warm) with vanilla ice cream and good cup of coffee too.

October 29, 2010 7:52 AM
1521 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 Shandonista said...

Hazel - was that the same plumber on toast we had the other morning?  With or without spotted dick?
 
 

October 29, 2010 8:31 AM
28471 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Lynn830 said...

Spring Fragrance - November 1, the day after Halloween, in the traditional Christian calendar is "All Saints Day" or All Hallows Day, the day on which there was a service to pray for and honor the dead.  Halloween is Hallow Evening, the night when the dead are about.  Hence...  The November 1 service is in the liturgical calendar of the Anglicans and other traditional Protestants, Roman Catholics and the Orthodox churches. 
Pumpkin shows up in various places in cuisine.  My wife, who lived in India for a number of years, makes a great pumpkin baji, though squash (acorn or butternut) can be substituted.  Cubed squash, onions and a bunch of spices are sautéed together.  Great taste!  It has taken its very popular place at our Thanksgiving table.
Squash and pumpkin may be substituted back and forth in cooking.  In Vietnam, our mess officer (a wonderful Warrant Officer from Georgia) would take the bulk canned squash which was meant to be heated and served as a tasteless vegetable and make pies of it, spiced and slightly sweetened (squash itself is sweeter than pumpkin), a delight to all of us.  He was very imaginative with the food we got, and made our time in Vietnam a good bit more pleasant.
I believe the pumpkins for jack o'lanterns have been specially bred for the purpose.  The wall, while sturdy, is not as thick as that of pumpkins destined for eating (usually called pie pumpkins for their major use).  I've seen recipes and pictures for pumpkin soup served inside a pumpkin shell.  And there is baked pumpkin.  And of course, as the weather cools, we can get back to baked squash filled with butter, brown sugar or maple syrup and spices.  Yum!

October 29, 2010 8:35 AM
28471 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Lynn830 said...

I think it is a pity with the way things are that we cannot give the kids cookies - everyone fears those who would harm kids with poison or needles in the food.  Parents these days only allow packaged and sealed things for their kids.  I remember as a child getting cookies, popcorn balls, carameled apples and once in a great while homemade candy.

October 29, 2010 8:52 AM
3905 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 cuukoo1 said...

a big scary  B  O O !!!!!!!!!!!!!! to you all.  happy halloween !

October 29, 2010 8:53 AM
Feet_up 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Thomas Typicalis said...

Lynn- You bring back fond memories.We often were invited in folks' homes and if you would sing, dance, or perform you got extra goodies. I collected my stuff in a pillow case that I decorated myself and we often made our costumes ourselves.  There is a great restaurant in an old facotry south of town that serves up pumpkin ice cream over fresh gingerbread. Tasty.  My Uncle Fred had gourds for dipping out water on his farm. A guy could work up a thirst after a night of snipe hunting. 

October 29, 2010 8:57 AM
28471 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Lynn830 said...

A bit off topic, but I was sent a link to an extraordinary video.  The lady in it is 106 years old, is the oldest living Holocaust survivor and still and incredible pianist.  www.youtube/user/AliceTheFilm

October 29, 2010 9:08 AM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

I make pies and bread out of pumpkin.
 
A few years ago when we answered the door for trick or treaters, there was a hat standing there.  A big hat.  On closer inspection there was a little boy under that hat, this was his first time trick or treating and he was so little that the rest of the cowboy outfit didn't show, just that hat -- so cute.

October 29, 2010 9:19 AM
Myself 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Spring Fragrance said...

Thanks Lynn! I know All Souls Day :)


The Chinese have a whole month of it ...its the 7th month of the Lunar Calendar and its called the Hungry Ghost Festival ...now now...stop laughing....No one gets married during this month when the gates of heaven and hell are opened. Property sales dry up, vacations usually lessened (in case the spirits cart you away)  etc.... Buddhists and Taoists priest will offer prayers and organise rituals to appease the spirits, act as mediums. As filial piety is very important to the culture, and ancestor worship is central to many non Christian Chinese, offerings of every conceivable real life convenience and luxuries are offered up....in paper mache...so they would include real estate, cars (mercs, beemers, jags etc...) mobile phones, and lots of paper money made to look like ingots...there will be food on altars...Mum always said we were not to go out late during the 7th month. Of course if there were all night vigil, mahjong tables will be set up ....

October 29, 2010 9:20 AM
1521 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 Shandonista said...

I'm having leftover delicata squash for breakfast.  After baking in the oven with a little olive oil, it's tender enough to eat the skin.
 
And yesterday, it was pumpkin oatmeal with lots of cinnamon.

October 29, 2010 9:21 AM
Myself 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Spring Fragrance said...

Great link Lynn! Awesome to see someone so old still so with it.


Check this out! A mobile phone seen in a 1928 Charlie Chaplin silent movie which cannot be explained.....<twilight zone music please> ...... 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6a4T2tJaSU

October 29, 2010 9:34 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Shandonista~ The very same plumber. You know how it is, they turn up, disembowel the boiler, say they haven't got the right part/tool ..... promise to be back soon .... I didn't check out his tool or his parts, I'm just happy to have the heating working again.
Good grief, Lynn830~What is the world coming to when you cannot give kids cookies. My parents vigorously discouraged any sillinesss at Halloween, insisting it was a pagan feast. Instead, we celebrated Guy Fawkes Night. 5th November. This is a very English thing & for weeks ahead children would be collecting material to build huge bonfires on large open spaces - of course there would be much competition to have the biggest & best bonfire in the neighbourhood. The other comptition was making "Guys" - these were scarecrow like effigies, made to represent Mr Guy Fawkes, who was hung for treason, having been caught out in a plot to fill the cellars of the Houses of Parliament with barrels of gunpowder & light the fuse. These effigies were the crowning glory of the bonfire. However, prior to that, kids would be sat on a street corner, displaying their Guy with the cry going up to passers-by "Penny for the Guy" - this money was to buy fireworks, an essential part of the celebrations. Moms would be busy making treacle toffee and ginger parkin.Of course, in recent years, Elfinsafetee have put the kybosh on all that fun. It's rather sad that people who are employed to make our lives better find ways of diminishing it. I am sick of seeing anxious parents helicoptering over their children & not allowing them to find out for themselves about grazed knees and elbows, burned fingers etc.

October 29, 2010 9:41 AM
Feet_up 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Thomas Typicalis said...

Spring Fragrance- I am open to time travel and admire the genius of Charlie Chaplin. This is very cool stuff and then I look in the corner of the you tube page and there is Michio Kaku who has helped me understand more clearly the meandering river of time. I often allow myself to jump into such realms and it is refreshing and stimulating.   http://youtu.be/X02WMNoHSm8

October 29, 2010 9:46 AM
Feet_up 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Thomas Typicalis said...

I shall once again join Linus in the pumpkin patch awaiting the arrival of THE GREAT PUMPKIN, who is himself a time traveler. 

October 29, 2010 10:10 AM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Ground ginger, allspice, ground cloves and nutmeg: the spices so identified with pumpkin that many are surprised and often pleased to discover that the vegetable does not arrive tasting like that.
By the same token, some of us have been delighted to discover the simple pleasure of already sweet acorn or butternut squash, halved and baked in foil until it gives to the touch and served right out of the oven with a spritz of olive oil and pepper.
Half of a leveled off baked acorn squash filled with chili, roast pork or chicken and gravy is a beautiful thing and we have one house guest who has filled his with tuna in white sauce.

Plumber's cracks... again?  Hazel seems to have put her finger on an area of interest... to some.

October 29, 2010 11:51 AM
28961 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 Ummgawa said...

I have always found it interesting that the costume industry can concoct a slutty costume out of any profession and for any age. Slutty Libriarian, Nurse, House keeper, Doctor, Policeman (woman) but no slutty plumber, Roofer, electrician, sheetrock man, framer, dog catcher, mechanic, etc.
 
I sense a class action lawsuit coming on.

October 29, 2010 11:54 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

Ummgawa~ that is not a costume, it is a uniform, for those trades. I know this for certain, having been some of those named, and indeed ,having a seperate wardrobe just for work.....and we do not call it slutty....merely freshly laundered

October 29, 2010 12:05 PM
Bisa-avatar 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 JaxZ said...

I've uploaded a photo of one of my more unfortunate pumpkin-carving efforts......

October 29, 2010 12:10 PM
28471 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Lynn830 said...

I think every culture has something like All Soul's Day or All Hallow's Day.  We added a good chunk of superstition to the day in the Middle Ages - ghosts and devils and whatnot.  But I think every culture has something similar to All Soul's Day.  We all honor the departed.  And every culture probably has some similar superstitions.  Certainly the Chinese have shen and gui.
I forget when it was that hospitals started fluroscoping Halloween goodies for kids or we saw the first reports of pins in apples and melted Ex Lax used in candy and cookies, but it has been 30-40 years since the craziness started.  Now, parents out of fear just throw away anything handmade.  No fun at all...
And Alice, the 106 year old pianist and Holocaust survivor is amazing.  Less amazing are the Holocaust deniers and their sick minds...

October 29, 2010 12:11 PM
Bisa-avatar 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 JaxZ said...

RY and Michael started it........

October 29, 2010 12:12 PM
28471 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Lynn830 said...

Sorry.  In Chinese, shen are good spirits and gui are evil spirits.

October 29, 2010 12:17 PM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


I don't remember at exactly what age greed was overtaken by self-respect but when we were young, nobody trick-or-treated past elementary school.
Nobody purchased much beyond a mask and I'll never forget the marvelous smell of the charred cork that was used to blacken eyebrows or faces.
I have no idea where all of those big corks came from and, speaking of smells, jack-o-lantern lids charred from within by a fat candle had an interesting smudgy aroma.

October 29, 2010 12:18 PM
Bisa-avatar 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 JaxZ said...

Good Grief, I just saw a Striper (that had to be 20" or more) say "Boo" to a flock of seagulls drifting by, scattering them like buckshot. Apparently he got the holiday memo.

October 29, 2010 12:32 PM
Bisa-avatar 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 JaxZ said...

Stoney, and pillowcases for candy bags!

I still make costumes for others, just because it's fun to brainstorm something different (no "naughty" anything, male or female, Ummgawa, like prolific swearing, it lacks imagination). When my daughter was 7 months pregnant she drew "The Tin Man" at an Oz themed party. Most fun I've had with creating a costume yet.

October 29, 2010 12:40 PM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Without going into detail again, it is hard to forget the young chubby-butted mom who came by dragging one reluctant kid and pushing another in a stroller.
In response to her accusation that I was obviously "checking out" her backside, I laughed and said: "That is the most realistic bat I have ever seen," believing it to have been a seasonal applique.
Her shrieks of horror still echo throughout the land.

October 29, 2010 1:16 PM
10photoviewsFirst-comFirst-photoHr-1 uliggam said...

My all time pumpkin favorite is yummy pumpkin fritters for breakfast when I am in Bali.

October 29, 2010 2:11 PM
5981 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Rhyselle said...

I don't have time to read everyone's comments from the past several days... On Tuesday, my 12 year old knocked over the coffee table by accident, sending a large mug of hot chocolate flying up in the air and about six feet across the living room... it would have just been a nuisance to clean up--except for the fact that the 8 ounces of steaming hot chocolate with melted marshmallows on top landed IN my open netbook that was on my lap as I sat on the sofa. It looked like a tidal wave from Willy Wonka's imagination as it headed towards me! Fortunately, I was wearing enough layers that I didn't get burned.

Netbook is now at the Geek Squad and it will be about two weeks before I either get it back repaired, or get to do a direct exchange under the accidental damage warranty. I'm already going through withdrawal!

Then last night, our cable modem failed at home and I can't use the desktop to get on the internet to catch up with my friends here. I'm on a quick break from work before I go downstairs to photograph a retirement ceremony and the time is almost up.

I'm not sure when I'll be able to pop back in here next. In the meantime, for those who celebrate the holiday, have a fun and Happy Hallowe'en!

Trick or treat! There's virtual ginger cookies and hot apple cider in the club car for your delectation. TTFN!

October 29, 2010 2:27 PM
1046 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Willie Trask said...

Who cares if this has anything to do with anything? I just enjoyed it...             http://www.kittyguerrilla.com/Martin/

October 29, 2010 2:46 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

BEBE:  It doesn't taste much like what people think it should, because most everybody expects the same spices as Pumpkin Pie, and they really are different ...  The flavor of Pumpkin Soup when done correctly is a lot earthier than a Dessert, and the way I do it, is much creamier than the normal graininess of a Gourd ... A little Butter, a little Sour Cream, and some puree'd Eschallote and the right Spices to complement, all tickled by a Cup or so of a young Orvieto White ('96 Forward) ....... Some Rumanian Pan Bread, with a bowl of Olive Oil and Lime Juice to dip in, some Fire Roasted Kielbasa, or Blutwurst to accompany, with Grapefruit and Avocado Wedges with Poppy Seed Dressing to clean the palate,and one can be warmed and prepared for a nite of dicing and dancing in the Club Car .......
(No Tipping Required)(Had an Uncle once who thought that Tip Ping was a village in China)
 
 

October 29, 2010 2:48 PM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

My son, never much of a dessert person, loves pumpkin pie.  When the kids were little, they got to chose their dinner and dessert for their birthdays -- he would chose pumpkin pie for his birthday "cake".  So every year, we had candles in the pumpkin pie and a "Happy Birthday Mike" on it. 

October 29, 2010 3:09 PM
1-dscn1106-4 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

PAOLOS:  (and IVAN):  I wrote a reply to both of you about Hem. on yesterday's page.  And no Paolos, it was fine to ask that question.  It's nothing personal at all.  And I enjoyed answering it, or trying to.  And IVAN, we disagree, dear, about Ernest H. untidy demise...go back and read and let me know what you think..../////////////////////  Happy Halloweeners to all of you who aren't offended by this "holiday."  We met a couple last night who were highly offended.  My husband and I agree that it was the longest most tedious and boring dinner we've sat through in a long long time.  If something exists, there will be somebody who resents its existence and will spend HOURS telling you why. ( Check please!, Please, the check now!!)

October 29, 2010 3:21 PM
Photo 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

Costume party in the club car....... But it won't be ‘live' music.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0thH3qnHTbI



October 29, 2010 4:10 PM
Photo 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

Willie T - Thank you so much for sharing your link.  Great story, good messages ....

October 29, 2010 4:23 PM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Willie Trask ~
That was terrific  and that is what job creation is really all about.
Best line? This one:

"You see, Mr. President, if you don't do it right you could ruin my reputation"

October 29, 2010 4:31 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

PARK4:  A most interesting presentation ... The research and substance of the of the issue is quite obvious, and I can find no fault with either the reasoning for your position on the matter, or the unassailability of the Facts presented ... I must, therefore, agree with you, while remembering a Fourth Estate axiom that says, "When Legend Becomes Truth, Print The Legend ..."
 
Years ago I read a Book written about Hemingway, by his Brother Leicester ... I do not recall its being as concise and in-depth as your presentation, nor were many of the things that you have revealed, discussed in that Book ... Perhaps he was familialy trying to preserve some shred of the Legend, or maybe he was hoping that preserving the myth of Ernest, would help him reinforce the Legend that he may have designed in his own mind, about himself ... or maybe, just to preclude as much as possible having to come to grips with his very own weaknesses and mortality, hoping to avoid, or at least deny, the Depression that seems to have run in the entire Line ... 
 
I must admit, that the first time I was in Hemingways Rooms, in the Ambos Mundos Hotel in Havana ... sat in his chair, touched his Typewriter, and held his ashtray ... I did feel a rush of admiration and my thought went immediately to, The Old Man and The Sea ... swollen slightly by spotting his Fishing Gear in the corner of the room, between the wall and an armwoire ... and then popping to reality when I realized that a True Sports Fisherman would have his Gear up on protective Racks, and not leaning in a corner where the Rods might become warped ... So, I figured that those responsible for making and keeping the little Museum, which is there to this day, must have decided some additional Props to support the Legend were need in those spartan quarters ... Very Neat, but a century or two behind in accoutrements ...  I was escorted that first time, by Raul Castro, as he new I was a Hemingway Fan, and we had just returned to the Hotel from the Monument on the Square that the Cubans have erected to their Hero ... They think almost as much of Hemingway as they do of Jose Marti ... and then of course, there's Che ...
 
I Thank You for your writing and truly enjoyed reading it ... Changing my mind is a monumental task, because I naturally resent and resist change ... But you have done it,  and I am not ashamed to say so ... Including you Miss P ... the total number of persons that have ever changed my mind, can be counted on one hand, with fingers left over ...
 
My Respects, Ma'am .......
 
 
I Wish Every One of You in This Village a Great Weekend !!!
 
Be Safe, Relax, and Enjoy !!!
 
 
To The Tribe,  GOOD  SHABBOS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I Wish You Peace, Joy, and a Good Rest !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
IVAN

October 29, 2010 5:03 PM
Photo 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

I salute you IVAN....... very well done.  Blessings to you good sir.  See ya on the flip side.john

October 29, 2010 5:07 PM
28961 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 Ummgawa said...

Ivan
 
Shalom in your Home.
 
Peace between your ears.
 
Blessings to you.

October 29, 2010 5:20 PM
Feet_up 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Thomas Typicalis said...

Park 4- A good lively debate over dinner. Sure. But lecturing from people with a mission causes indigestion. I once directed a play callled A Monster Ate My Homework. Some dropped out because there was a vampire. Yet when I appeared in CS Lewis' The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe, it was viewed differently. I am quick to point out that the children understand the word fiction a lot more than adults. And the use of metaphor, allegory, symbols, and images are methods to tell a greater truth through a good story. Hence Halloween is a fun time for children and adults to pretend and to laugh and be scared of things that aren't real. Heaven knows there are enough real threats out there.  I will celebrate the coming of the Great Pumpkin, Santa, Easter Bunny, Cupid, and the Tooth Fairy with the gusto of one who embraces our fables and folklore and in them an opportunity to share experiences with our family and our friends.  I always wanted to be Pecos Bill.

October 29, 2010 5:30 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-5 George Hall said...

 
 
A farmer looking to make a few additional dollars during the Halloween season decided to plant a small pumpkin patch. As the season approached he became concerned that some of the young boys in the neighborhood might (and may already have stolen) steal some of his pumpkins.
 
After some thought he put a sign at the edge of the patch which read:
 
"ONE OF THE PUMPKINS IN THIS PATCH IS POISONED"  
 
and thought that should stop the little devils.
 
The next day he went out to check the pumpkins, his sign had a small addition which read:
 
"NOW TWO OF THEM ARE!!!"
 
Don't mess with kids!

October 29, 2010 5:30 PM
Feet_up 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Thomas Typicalis said...

Warren Zevon- The Werewolves of London is off the cool chart and I will be listenin; this weekend.   Lon Chaney, Jr. was a rockin' werewolf. My son and his college roomates, are quite eclectic in their musical tastes but Beach Boys Pet Sounds and Michael's THRILLER are at the top when they spin clasic real vinyl. Not as much fun since there are no record covers to look at while you listen. 

October 29, 2010 6:05 PM
28961 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 Ummgawa said...

TT- did you recieve my email?

October 29, 2010 6:11 PM
Feet_up 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Thomas Typicalis said...

Ummgawa- I did and shall proceed to read and in the proverbial words of Jeremiah Johnson I will skin' em as fast as you can catch' em.

October 29, 2010 6:19 PM
Feet_up 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Thomas Typicalis said...

George- Howzabout those old boys who would put a bag of poop on the porch and light it if they didn't get a treat. Stompin' it out was messy. The word trick used to mean something in my old neighborhood. I have been the recipient of a stray pumpkin or a water balloon thrown from a passing 57 Chevy. 

October 29, 2010 6:23 PM
Myself 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Spring Fragrance said...

Jax...thanks for the photo...lol....
Rhyselle....I hope U get your laptop back quickly - my laptop is like another limb to me and I sympathize with you!
Tommy Typical  - I'm a great fan of Michio Kaku!!! He makes difficult concepts so accessible
 
Lynn...we can't get to the video via that link - here's the correct one. I'm truly inspired by her and have shared it on my facebook profile....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlccsLr48Mw
 
Have a great sabbath dear Tribe. And a great holiday to all of you! 
 

October 29, 2010 6:59 PM
28961 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 Ummgawa said...

Thanks Pilgrim...

October 29, 2010 8:01 PM
1-dscn1106-4 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

TT:Are you referring to my comment on yesterday about that worse than dreary couple we had dinner with last night?  I hope that's it -- I sat here for five minutes thinking : what did I say?  I love Halloween, I love all the boo's and bwa-ha-ha's and creaking door noises and costumes and SNICKERS candy bars...I love it all...so I figured you must have been referring to Yesterday and the Disastrous Dinner with the Halloween Despisers because it's all about the Debil, I tell you, all about the Debil.....GAH!  Assuming that's it, assuming you don't hate me, can I come sit out in The Pumpkin Patch with you and Linus and his blanket and Wait for You Know Who?  I'd be honored.  And I'm hardly ever scared.  Much.  ... Let's take a whole lot of Village People with us if they promise to be quiet when Waiting for You Know Who, and if they promise to be braver than I am...okay?

October 29, 2010 8:02 PM
1-dscn1106-4 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Did I happen to mention I love SNICKERS candy bars?  I did?  Oh.  Okay.  Just wanted to make sure I mentioned that I LOVE SNICKERS candy bars..................;)

October 29, 2010 8:07 PM
1-dscn1106-4 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Ivan:  you are more than a gentleman, and I don't deserve it.  Or you.  But thank you, kind sir, and Good Shabbos my friend even tho I'm not exactly one of the tribe --  you're one of mine.  As ever, me.

October 29, 2010 8:29 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

Man, IVAN & PARK......your exchange is making me well up. For some reason I am feeling very emotional & I found the whole discussion from yesterday & today to be quite brilliant....not to mention illuminating. I don't know, something about your exchanges just has me in tears....................
 
My little Billy Basher at school also LOVES Snickers & on the rare occasion when he is wonderful we go to visit someone who keeps a stash of mini snickers. His face lights up like he has seen the Holy Trinity in person.........he is positively in thrall to the mini snickers...........
 
PL.......every time you sign off, "see you on the flip side" I think of the new Ben Affleck movie & in one scene he has a scene w/ his father (played by the GREAT Chris Cooper) & as he is leaving his father says, "I'll see you here or on the other side",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it tore me up.......just did me in. That line is also used brilliantly and to tearjerking effect another time in the movie. Anyway....sorry to ramble, I just wanted to tell you that your line makes me think of that, but yours is much cheerier.......... 
 
PARK..........Billy Basher & I will be delivering a wheelbarrow of mini snickers to you for your thoughtful, brilliant, & passionate posts..........if he doesn't eat them all first..........or the Debil doesn't get us...........

October 29, 2010 8:53 PM
1-dscn1106-4 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

How will I know it's you and Billy Basher at my door? LOL hugs and ;)

October 29, 2010 8:57 PM
1-dscn1106-4 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

And here's keenex, babe.  No tears on Halloween.  I can't remember why, but I just know that nobody gets to be snuffly on Halloween, All Hallow's Eve, or All Hallow's Eve Eve.  Did I cover all the possibilities?  ANYHOW:  BEBE, WHAT'S THIS I hear about George Clooney trick or treating in your neighborhood Saturday night (Eve!  Is it true?!

October 29, 2010 9:03 PM
Feet_up 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Thomas Typicalis said...

Park- I was. And y'all are welcome in my punkin patch anytime. I see the devil alright in tinhorn dictatorships that abuse women and children and scare people in the name of religion. If it ain't about love and forgiveness and happy children and something good to eat then I am skeptical.

October 29, 2010 9:20 PM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

Did you all check out JPeterman company on Facebook?  There are pictures posted of the company employees in costume for Halloween.  I tried to copy one of them and send it, but it wouldn't allow it for some reason.......kind of cute.

October 29, 2010 9:22 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

PARK........thanks & I will take that kleenex..........don't know, just one of those days/nights. You would know Billy because he is about the cutest thing around.............Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh...............George & I are trying to keep this lowkey...............

October 29, 2010 9:29 PM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Well, that worked out nicely: just hang around for the Jalopkin Friday blessing and then go out to eat. You can't miss.
Saw friends we haven't seen in awhile and came home to learn that P4's brilliant offerings are worth a good four credits in adult continuing education at UW.
It is a dandy autumn evening and the neighbors must all have burned the hair balls out of their flues because the wood fires smell marvelous.

October 29, 2010 11:15 PM
Photo 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

bebe.... I heard 'I'll catch you on the flip side' in one of my favorite movies Boondock Saints' and it just stuck. You are absolutely correct about the very talented Chris Cooper.

Be well ...... btw..... you never just ramble.... but I like it when you do. ; )

 

 

 

TMC has a 1950's Frankenstein marathon tonight.....


October 29, 2010 11:44 PM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


We found the perfect adoptive home for Irish Setter boots and, not for the first time, this happened: "You mean there really is a J. Peterman? Seriously? I thought it was just a Seinfeld thing."
My wife gets a kick out of that for some reason.

October 30, 2010 2:22 PM
1-dscn1106-4 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Stoney:  excellent. Lots of excellent comments since you came back from dinner. If someone said that (there really is a Peterman, thought he was just a Seinfeld thing) I would have to hope I had nothing in my mouth when they said it.  Dinner companions:  we snared ourselves a few good ones these past couple of nights, didn't we?  And thanks for the 4 points.  How lovely it would be if we could turn our avocations into vocations.  Some people do, my hats off to them and they are blessed indeed -- but a lot of us put our loves of say literature, on the back burners for the love of say a man we want to live with forever.  And he's got no dam avocation ;), so ... we make do with our arrangement, and as the years go on, we see we've made do just fine.

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