Garden plants so good you could, and should, eat them

An amazingly good Article ....... Beats the hell out of their Article in 1875 alarming the public with the threat that the flatulence of Horses was destroying the Ozone Layer and polluting the air .......  I guess they REALLY shit when the Automobile was invented .......  and then ....... a few years ago it was Cows' belching ...  I guess we all should become Vegetarians and kill all the edible animals ... PETA will be pissed ... Imagine, a War between two groups of idiot TreeHugging Kooks !!! What next Al Gore ???????

jalopkin......!!!

A plant they left out of the article: Galtheria procumbens, commonly known as wintergreen or checkerberry. The leaves and berries of this low-growing, hardy member of the heath family (related to blueberries) are dark glossy green, turning to rich red. The plant has tiny waxy white blossoms in the springtime, and the round berries are bright scarlet-red. It is the original source of wintergreen oil, and the fibrous leaves can be chewed for the pleasure of it, and act as an appetite stimulant.  My mom tells of her mom gathering a good big dish of the berries, chopping them, and mixing them into the white buttery frosting on a chocolate cake. I've always wanted to try this. 
  

Thyme, groomed and shaped, makes for a gorgeous decorative element in a garden.  There are a plethora of sages, each with a different color of flower.  I see folks using cabbages as landscaping plants (and am not convinced...).  I'm not sure if honeysuckle is technically a food, though as kids we loved sucking the sweet nectar from the morning blooms.--- I think of 'estates' in England, where folks of 'modest means' would use the entire front yard as a vegtable garden (not as ugly as you might think, and a lot more useful and interesting than flat expanses of grass...).

Jalopkin, am I the only one who gets confused by some of your postings?  (1) Are you of the opinion that methane from cattle, horses, etc, etc, is not a gas that traps heat from the sun?  (2) Are you saying that the byproducts of the combustion of hydrocarbons have no effect?  (3) Are you advocating or condemning vegetarianism?  (I might note that I eat lots of meat fully realizing it is associated with a ton of health problems, partially because of the fat content, but also due to nitosamines created in the cooking process.) (4) Though I think PETA folks are 'over the edge' -- ditto Peter Singer -- that's simply because I've committed to humanism (i.e. I place loyalty to H. sapiens above my loyalty to other species).  I have no particular emotional reaction to their ideas, as long as they do not engage in the invasion of scientific laboratories.  And (5) What makes people who love trees (or for that matter other parts of the natural world that support human life) "kooks"?  You seeem to be very emotionally invested in your positions, and I find it a bit strange... but then perhaps I'm not quite 'getting it'.  [Perhaps this is not the correct forum...].  In any event, I'd just like to make the point your posting is more than a little cryptic, no offense intended, guy!

i'm sorry doc, but i'm missing your point.....what is your point?
 
i enjoy post, especially the one's that provoke thought out side of a little dark box, with thick impenetrable boundary lines.
 
what's wrong with plowing the garden of our craniums and planting some new thoughts.  did that tie in with the topic?
 

 
Completely overcast in gray; 60°, not a breath of wind and no gunfire from the water fowlers. The calmness may explain that: ducks can park themselves anywhere in comfort and don't need to seek the shelter of bays or the lee of islands where they are awaited.

So quiet that I can hear the desk lamp. That is probably not a good thing.

Not a bad time to wonder who it was that showed up in Pittsburgh to smash the windows of Subway sandwich shops, where they came from and why?

Or how congress, with an approval rating under 20%, has managed to fool that many.

I've got it. The perfect day, because the local macs and cortlands are abundant, to knock together a couple of pies and take them to the assisted living facility where my wife's mom and her friends have been subjected to double crusted, no cinnamon, non-sweetened, uncooked and un-peeled apple concoctions called pies.

Maybe a nice slice for their "baker."

And this has come up again and seems to make the old girl, afflicted with macular degeneration, quite happy:

http://www.damninteresting.com/chuck-bonnet-and-the-hallucinations

Fig trees grow in Brooklyn.  In neighborhoods known for residents of Italian heritage, fig trees share the backyard with tomato plants, eggplant, basil and sometimes mint.    

Good  Morning,  Friends.   I  love  rhubarb  pie,  no  strawberries  {that's  4  wimps}.  Would  you  put  water  or  mixer  in  fine  Irish  whiskey?   If  you  do,  don't  tell  me,  I  might  lose  respect  4  u ...  lol
Pie  with  most  of  the  sweetener  artificial  is  best,  also  my  patented  jam....don't  ask  4  the  recipe,  if  I  tell  you,  then  I  would  have  2  kill  u.   This  stuff  grows  like   weeds,  fast,  and  bugs  leave  it  unmolested,  so  no  chemicals  to  toxify  my  body......
aside:  Anybody  who  tried  to  have  a  coherent  conversation  with  me  may  be  concerned  that  I  may  be  on  the  office  window  ledge,  preparing  to  jump.  Fatigue  =  depression,  mind  cannot  be  over  matter,  although  I  love  "mind  over  matter,"  the  60's   song.  Motivational.  Case  from  hell  is  virtually  over,  except  trier  of  fact  reading  gazillions  of  transcripts  that  reflect  jailhouse  phone  calls  that  my  client  and  codefendant  were  urged  umpteen  times  were  unsecure,  and  taped..............Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!      No  more  giveaways  on  a  pending  matter,  just  thanks  so  much  for  those  of  you  who  cared  enough  to  give  the  very  best.....your  best  wishes.

You guys are my salvation. I am busy collaging notes for the eulogy for Pinky at a giant memorial this afternoon. It would take as long as we were together to tell all of the things....I guess that says a lot....

Road  Yacht:  I  have  my  own  personal  devils  myself,  and  like  you  I  use  this  forum  in  part  as  distraction  therapy.  I  worry  about  you,  or  try  2  decipher  Doc  Nolan's  sophisticated  posts  {Cuukoo1:  lol},  I  et  too  distracted  &  eventually  tired  2  worry  about  things  that  I  have  nothing  left   to  do  to  assist  in  the  fixing.  

"get"  too  distracted...need  spellcheck

  
Bert,

The baker guilty of corrupting rhubarb with strawberries was found flogged, stoned, naked and lynched in a public square pending a decision on an appropriate punishment.

It is like "enhancing" a pecan pie with peanuts only worse.


Criminals are made stupid to give the other side a chance... thought you knew.


RY,

Don't forget Tom's Burned out...

Julia's right about the fig trees in Italian Neighborhoods. There's several in mine.
 
I agree with Bert except that it should be single-malt Scotch whisky, instead of the Irish. Always served neat.
 
I'm just as confused as Doc by IJ's missives.
 
Stoney, it was Pitt students that smashed up the Subway. The Anarchists smashed up a Quiznos among other things, including local mom&pop shops that happened to have more than one location.
 
Oh well, back to proscratinating doing anything on this rainy Saturday.
 
 

Stoney:   So  the  corollary  of  "lucky  for  decent  folks  that  criminals  are  stupid"  must  be  that  "those  of  us  on  either  side  of  the  aisle  should  pray  on  our  knees  to  have  god  keep  making  people  stupid,  otherwise  defense  lawyers  and  prosecutors  would  have  to  find  honst  work?"  lol
 
Daniel  Zev:   I  stand  corrected,  my  virtual  friend.   Some  disreputable  folks  I  happen  to  occasionally  contact  love  premium  Scotch,  albeit  mostly  for  boasting  about  their  "successful  careers" ......  but  I  no  longer  drink  scotch  because  I  remember  what  drug  money  does  to  our  population.   Actually  I  no  longer  drink  much  at  all,  but  I  still  look,  smell,  and  appreciate  a  class  act  when  I  see  one.....
 
You  guys  {and  ladies,  sorry}  are  GREAT. 

DOC NOLAN:
CUUKOO1:

As stated, I enjoyed the Article. both Text and Topic ... and without doubt, am emotionally invested in these, "Issues" because I have long since tired of the Chicken-Little Alarmists that spew all the crap they do about things they only THINK they understand, which is used by someone(s) to scare the general public and/or exact a measure of control over us ... usually, it is BIG GOVERNMENT ... and almost always seconded by the Blue Hair Brigade who are devotees of their Bible, the National Enquirer .......  I'll be seventy-two in November, and I have been watching all these, "Issues" being stirred up for a long time, purposely, to take the focus of the general public OFF of what the thieving hypocrites in D.C. are actually doing to the rest of us ... I've even witnessed a Mountebank Greenpeace squawker being given a Pulitzer Prize, for promoting Global Warming crapola, when Scientists published not long ago that this last year has been one of the coolest years we have had, globally, in quite some time .......  And while Mr. Greenpeace Chicken-Little cautions us all and pushes for us to, "Go Green" ...  his monthly Light bill is around, $24,000.00 ...
 
I prefer to believe that God who made this earth, and the world on it, thought about every bit of the stuff that creates these, "Issues" ... and made provisions for it all in His Creation, and I trust all He has said, because He can make a Tree, and I can't .......   Man has adapted to every thing for a few over six thousand years, and I figure that everything will go on, without His over-stepping anybody's Free Will, for however long it takes for His Original Plan to work out ... We have been living on borrowed time for a while, so I know He has thought about all this ....... Of course, if your mind doesn't work that way, or if you're from Missouri ... You're Entitled ....... May the God you might not believe in Bless You Richly anyway .......

Thanks for the clarification, Jalopkin...

Sometimes a good Saturday morning rant is just the antidote required to clear the air of past week's woes and infuse it with extra ozone in manner similar to a good lightning storm, thus freeing the weekend for a bountiful harvest. 

If I would be a slice of pie today, it would be rhubarb with a scoop of cinnamon ice cream and a cup-a-joe, served at an off-the-main-drag truck stop with a buzzing-n- flickering neon sign out front and a spotless and shining stainless steel-n-red enamel counter inside. I think Johnny Rivers would be playin' on the jukebox.

Hope ya'll have a swell and meaningful in a positive kinda way weekend.

Anybody into bamboo or bamboo shoots? 

Doc  Nolan:   I    have  a  stash  of  cheap  bamboo  fishing  rods,  for  little  people  too  unsophisticated  to  handle  a  fly  or  bait  casting  rod  &  reel...does  that  count?

not on national fish amensty day...
 
This Fish Amnesty Day-celebrated the fourth Saturday in September-PETA is urging anglers to toss their tackle and try activities that don't involve impaling small animals for fun. A recent study by researchers at the Roslin Institute in Scotland confirmed what scientists have been saying for years-that fish can feel pain, as all animals do. Fishing also endangers birds and other animals, who can become entangled in discarded fishing line or swallow lost hooks.
 
i heading to my dock now, to cast a few lines about....if only to mess with the great blue herron....

I took a walk in the bamboo garden at the Hunting Library/Botanical Gardens...... does that count. Bamboo is the new oak.

cuukoo1 - Be carefull messing with the great blue heron.  The last time I did that he messed all over my windshield as I was making my getaway.  He was laughing when he did it too!

....... but I've never shot any bamboo, nor skeet either... It's a nice Fall day today...... catcha later peace out

Bamboo shoots are indeed tasty; too bad that stuff grows like kudzu. 

Cuukoo1:   Please  refresh  your  recollection  of  old  posts.  I  catch  &  release  my  personal  catches,  especially  my  pet  bass.   With  little  people,  I  give  them  a  paperclip   cut  down  to  resemble  a  hook.  The  part  of  the  shoreline  within  reach  of  their  10"  pole  has  shallow  water,  and  they  can  see  the  bluegills  (little  ones)  frenzying  around  their  oversized  nightcrawler.  100%  of  the  fish  cannot  swallow  that  "hook."   10%  either  put  the  tim  in  their  mouth,  or  stuff  their  face  with  one  end  of  the  worm  {no  hook}.  I  whisper  "pull!"  and  the  fish  rises  from  the  "deep,"  but  most  fall  off.   I  shake  my  finger  at   them,  and  say  "rats!"  .....   the  ones  that  hop  on  shore  go  into  a  tub,  and  SOMEONE  mysteriously  makes  them  disappear  after  bedtime.....

put  the  "tip"  in  their  mouth.....where  did  I  hide  the  organic  fairtrade  protected  rainforest  Equadorian  darkroast?    {My  neighbor  across  the  cove  is  bigtime  into  environmental  issues,  so  to  be  politically  correct  I  support  her  favorite  charities...plus  after  all  her  arguments  are  not  frivilous,  we  need  "old"  rainforest,  jobs  for  indigenous  peoples  at  decent  wages,  and  coffee  raised  w/o  chemicals.....

Daniel  Zev:  Does  bamboo  grow  as  fast  as  asparagus?   Watched  that  stuff  grow  in  sandy  soil,  you  literally  have  it  happen  B4  you  as  though  in  a  fast  forward  taping...

bert, to take a quote from sandlot....."your killing me, smalls" 

cuukoo!
 
funny lady!
 
I am laughing so hard...you're killing me, anyway.
 
 

Jalopkin:
 
well put.  I get what you mean.  I wouldn't have before, but now I do, and it's good.
 
Know why only god can make a tree?
 
Because it's so hard to get the bark on.
 
(quoth woody allen)

Oh come all ye geniuses.
Try this:
 
http://www.readnrock.com/?p=38
 
 
 
Well? 
Which way?

Bert~ Not so sure about the growth rate of asparagus, but that too is mighty tasty, especially when steamed with rosemary and served with a side of garlic butter.
 
et. al.~ drinks are now being served in the club car. Gin & Ginger with a twist of mint is tonight's special.

Daniel  Zev:  Does  the  Club  Car  have  a  retro  jukebox?   I  used  2  reember,  but  since  I  have  started  hanging  with  you  guys,  the  porter  needs  to  take  me  home,  and  no  more  upper  berth...danger.   Etta  James'  "At  Last"   keeps  popping  up  in   my  mind,  torturing  me.....then  my  feet  start  to  involuntarily  move,  slow  dance  time.....

Logical  analysis:  I  a  retro  jukebox  still  plays  vinyl,  then  it  should  only  cost  a  nickel.........with  a  buffalo  on  one  side,  and  Tommy  Jefferson  on  the  other.....

Bert~ The jukebox is free on Saturdays and literally has almost every song for almost every taste.

CuuKoo1~ fish, like people,should stay in school,with their mouths closed.  I bet there wouldn't need to be an amnesty day for them then....IJ~ on which day did God create fossils?   li   To all the rest of you, there were just shy of 200 people that did turn out on this somber but beautiful day.   There were speeches,tears,songs written and preformed,tears, extended family from all over,tears,unbelievable food,tears,laughter,more tears,testimonials,hand shaking,deep hugs,and stories, many stories,from the past president of AT&T,the Managing Partner at arguably the 5th or 6th largest law firm in town,several neighborhood groups, food service ladies,maintnance people(all of whom she knew personally)....bikers,cops,...just an incredible turn out. I wish you all had actually known her too.   Check the Chicago papers obits; Carole Chomsker,last week.     Thanks again for being my salvation, EyEsters, and, Mr. P.       E

Road  Yacht:   Now  you've  really  done  it,  my  eyes  are  tearing  up.....wish  we  could  give  each  other  a  hug,  virtual  good  friend.   Listening  to  Dinah  Washinton,  "September  Song,"  but  now  I  gotta  go  to  something  else.....it  is  too  melancholy,  and  thus  disrespectful  of  proper  mental  uniform  of  the  day  to  empower  Road Yacht  to  smile  despite  his  pain.....   Dag  nabbit,  now  I  miss  The  City  With  Broad  Shoulders,  per  Carl  Sandberg.

My Mom made rhubarb pie! I like to make rubarb jam. I spoon it over vanilla ice-cream - ambrosia! To celerate the last warm weekend of the season I will have an OMG BBQ on our wrap-around deck.

The memorial service sounds like a perfect reflection of the kind of woman you described her to be.
 
May you find peace in your heart...you've done it well, eli.

roadyacht, may we all handle life with such grace as you and your beautiful pinky.

Park4:  Welcome  back!   Your  comment  regarding  Road  Yacht  was  clear,  concise,  &  accurate.  I  don't  virtually  know  Roadyacht's  former  live-in  soul  mate  from  a  hill  of  beans,  but  when  he  speaks  I  can  literally  feel  my  own  heart  beat  with  his  in  symmetry  with  his  bittersweet  memories.  That,  however,  is  good  for  us   both.  Better  to  live  a  full  life,  than  to  die  kicking  your  arse  that  you  never  had  the  courage  to  cast  your  fate  to  the  wind......
 
Daniel  Zev:  Thanks  so  much  for  info  on  the  authentic  Seeburg  "dancing  bubbles"  jukebox,  with  something  for  each  of  us  inside.   May  I  retract  my  wish  for  giving  up  my  supply  of  buffalo  nickels  (nickles?)  ?   My  kid  might  collect  them,  they  gotta  be  worth  more  than  face  value.......
Still  have  my  grandfather's  collection  of  indian  head  pennies.
 
Park4:   I  am  reluctantly  going  out  for  a  while,  but  I  will  sneak  back  online.  Have  2  make  at  least  a  cameo  appearance  at  a  neighbor's  party.  The  guy  is  fine,  his  wife  is  a  great  cook,  but  holy  ravioli  they  somehow  feel  the  need  to  bring  into  the  mix  a  few  really  world-class  arseholez.  One  of  them  starts  drinking  around  noon,  rationalizing  it  as  "warming  up  exercises  B4  the  game."   Unfortunately  I  don't  have  either  the  time  or  the  interest  to  treat  life  as  a  game,  nor  do  I  want  to  get  cornered  by  his  g/f  and  confronted  with  off-topic  rhetorical  questions  about  her  ex,  and  what  a  fool  he  was  to  leave  a  woman  like  HER.....    Heck,  lady,  go  online.  Find  a  man  who  is  hearing-impaired.  One  with  a  remote  control  pocket  device,  like  the  thing  that  opens  my  trunk  or  unlocks  my  car.  He  could  then  rewire  it  to  clandestinely  cut  off  the  volume  of  his  hearing  aids.....  I  almost  got  in  trouble  last  April,  I  got  caught  working  my  right  hand  as  if  it  were  her  monotonous  mouth.   Please  send  help,  should  your  cell  show  me  on  caller  i.d.  dialing  911....

Well bert.  All I can think of to say is it sounds like you're going to have a bumpy night.
 
Skål!

Rest in peace...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-obit-chomsker-23-sep23,0,674896.story

Bert: Heh, heh.  Your comment about the g/f reminds me of a customer (lady lawyer) who went on and on about how she'd sue us if anything went wrong -- and then started in on her ex and what a miserable person he was.  I listening patiently (trying to be sympathetic) until she mentioned -- at the end of a tirade lasting over ten minutes -- that she'd divorced him 14 years before!  Some folks never let go, and never forget.  I made sure we would NOT do business with her and I carry the memory of her as one more wrang-wrang.  ['A wrang-wrang, according to Bokonon, is a person who steers people away from a line of speculations by reducing that line, with the example of the wrang-wrang's own life, to an absurdity." cf: Cat's Cradle, chapter 36, 'Meow']

wrang-wrang:  that's terrific.  I like that a lot; I know a lot of them, too.  Wrang-wrang.   Excellent.

RY:
Yis'ga'dal v'yis'kadash sh'may ra'bbo, b'olmo dee'vro chir'usay v'yamlich malchu'say, b'chayaychon uv'yomay'chon uv'chayay d'chol bais Yisroel, ba'agolo u'viz'man koriv; v'imru Omein.
     Y'hay shmay rabbo m'vorach l'olam ul'olmay olmayo.
     Yisborach v'yishtabach v'yispoar v'yisromam v'yismasay, v'yishador v'yis'aleh v'yisalal, shmay d'kudsho, brich hu, l'aylo min kl birchoso v'sheeroso, tush'bechoso v'nechemoso, da,ameeran b'olmo; vimru Omein.
     Y'hay shlomo rabbo min sh'mayo, v'chayim alaynu v'al kol Yisroel; v'imru Omein.
     Oseh sholom bimromov, hu ya'aseh sholom olaynu, v'al kol yisroel; vimru Omein.

Daniel Zev~La Chiam

RY - Warm fuzzies to you and yours.
 
off topic - I married an electrical engineer and will have the treat of a Tessla coil performance tonight!
 
http://krannertcenter.com/performance.aspx?id=2009922144330241128174106178
 

PARK4: Thank You for your kind words .......  Most of the time, I know when it is best for me to just keep my mouth shut ... and then there are times, when to do so becomes tacit approval of things which I do NOT !!!

IVAN:  I know just what you mean!

Brigid:  Now that's a name from the past, a wonderful time for me at the U of I, in Champaign-Urbana (you too!?).

 
Krannert Center!  I read that in the link and I'm thinking, now where do I know that from? and of course, there you have it, "down" at school.

 
You live there?...for the longest time (well, my sophomore and junior years), I seriously wanted to stay down there and get a house in Urbana (old part) and live there and raise a family there rather than move back up to the city/suburbs, but Life had its own momentum then, and I didn't fight it.

 
How was the Tesla performance?