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September 10, 2008
A recent article cites over 150 bison, roaming about Camp Pendleton, “in the grassy northeast corner of the 125,000 acre base, free to graze and wander in wide open spaces.”
Of course, at one time, you had herds of bison roaming on more than military bases. Coming across the Bering Strait some 10,000 years ago, armed with brute strength, an ability to survive climate extremes and meager vegetation, they soon showed other animals who's boss. And inhabited the Great Plains of the United States in massive herds.
(The males were known as fierce fighters and, incidentally, regular sex maniacs, collecting harems of females. They also played both sides of the field, but that’s another story.)
Needing a three-syllable word, the bison, became known as the buffalo, in Dr. Brewster M. Higley’s stirring lyrics. "Where the bison roam" didn't have much of a ring to it.
But whatever the name, their meat was so savory that even a judge as parochial as 16th century explorer Alvar Nunez Cabeza "De Vaca" was impressed. "To my judgment the flesh is finer than that of this country (Spain)."
Yet this imposing breed, that grew to over 60 million, hadn’t counted on one thing.
Us.
"For the sake of lasting peace," Gen. Philip Sheridan advised Congress, "let them kill, skin and sell until the buffaloes are exterminated."
More than a century after the species was hunted and culled almost to the point of extinction, as part of a deliberate policy to starve Native Americans into submission, the buffalo is back in business.
Visionaries, like turn-of-the-century Montana ranchers Michel Pablo and Charles Allard, decided the buffalo was worth preserving. Thanks to them, there was viable stock to start a buffalo industry when favor returned to the animal a few decades ago.
It is now estimated there are more than half a million animals grazing in the U.S. (many of them on Ted Turner's ranch). A total of 30,000 bison were slaughtered for meat last year, double the number in 2000.
Leading the charge has been buffalo's superior nutritional profile. An average piece of buffalo has a third of the fat, slightly less cholesterol and nearly 10 times the vitamin B-12 as a similar size chunk of skinless chicken breast.
Ecologically, it's win-win. Buffalo gain weight faster than cattle and do it by eating grass rather than resource-intensive corn. They do less damage to grazing grounds, too. And there's no such thing as useless buffalo by-product. William Hornaday notes in "The Extermination of the American Bison," his 1887 report to the Smithsonian:
"I never wore a pair of buffalo overshoes without being torn by conflicting emotions - mortification at the ridiculous size of my combined foot-gear, big boots inside of huge overshoes, and supreme comfort derived from feet that were always warm."
According to The National Bison Association, "Buffalo meat tastes similar to fine beef, with just a slightly sweeter and richer flavor."
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What's your favorite "other red meat?"
My favorite "other red meat" is bear. As the son-in-law of a hunter, I can attest to bear stew being leaner, richer, and more delicious than any beef I've ever tasted.
Wait, no-bison, Bison bison, buffing? Say it ain't so, JP! I'm losin it...
Eat me! Drink me! Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore! Oh, my ears and whiskers-how late it's getting!
Well, them little chickens are easier to catch, and at least they don't bat both ways-NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT...
OMG, must...sleep...must...sleep...
There's nothing quite like that first bite into a Buff-steak . . .
Dammit, now I'm hungry.
absolutely delicious meat - and healthy stuff, too. (for my tastes, bear meat tends to keep enlarging in size as it is chewed) - buffalo are raised commercially around these parts and readily available in many markets.
I don't think they'll replace beef (and in some ranches are bred with beef to make "beefalo" which isn't quite the real thing, but satisfies some folks.
yes - it's midnite and I'm hungry now - where's my bow and arrow when I need it/them?
I mean the meat is available - buffalo on the hoof are generally too big to get through the front doors -
time for bed - eat something tomorrow
Shared a great Buffalo NY strip in Cooke City not long ago.
I have to say, Peterman, that gay animals article was pretty unconvincing. Grammar does count and they seemed to have gotten the people who translated my printer manual to write their copy:
"...virtually every bonobo chimpanzees are bisexual..."
GET OVERE THERE MISS-IVE and show those people how to write!
I vividly remember first seeing 'buffalo' for the first time on a trip to rappel down the face of Mount Scott in the Wichita Mountains NWR, Oklahoma. We were dumb enough to think they were docile (like cows) and approached less than 100 feet to the enormous animals. (God smiles on the young and the foolish.)
The idea of going from 30,000,000 animals to almost none boggles the mind... that number is about the same population as the human population (currently) of the states of Texas and Oklahoma! If humans were hunted to this point they would call it a World War. (Oops, we were). In case anyone didn't know it, the Soviet Union lost 27,000,000 dead during WWII. Killed like bison, only no one ever quite says that, do they?
On a happy note, the bison were luckier than the mastodon and the sabre toothed tiger, hunted to extinction by the 'native Americans' before the Europeans ever intruded into North America. And so it goes... some win and some lose.
I had no idea the herds of bison had recovered to 500,000! (I've always had a soft spot in my heart for curmugion Ted Turner...). Since I'm throwing numbers around, that is creeping up on Alaska's human population of 670,000. Can the bison outbreed the Alaskans? (The race is on!)
Finally, the issue of brucellosis ... an inevitable topic... Here's a biased, but interesting link: http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/science/brucellosismyth.html . And for those unfamiliar with brucellosis (aka undulant fever, aka Malta fever) here's a bit of knowledge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brucellosis .
For those inclined to a bit of doggerel here's my contribution, with apologies to Ogden Nash, whose verse I have shredded...
I never hope to eat a bison burger
Never hope to see one
But if I munch a bison burger
I'd rather see than be one.....
Trask,
Would love to 'get over there' and show them how it's done, but not today.
Miss Ive has done horrible damage to herself with birthday Champagne. This room is too bright.
And though I love a good beefalo burger, and induldge in one whenever I am in Wyoming, I will be pouring vats of fat down my throat for lunch today. Soothes my nerves.
Luckily I am in Detroit. All good restaurants have vats of fat on the menu. Coneys. Four please. And chili fries. Okay, am going to vomit.
MackDaddy!!!
I am so glad I found your song post from yesterday!!! Cleared up a little confusion over your posts on my site!!! I'm so glad you had fun with the girls. I think I could hear you all toasting me!!!
I apologize for the terse post my husband wrote in response to yours. Let's just say, he thought you were a 'daddy,' too!!! And the ironic twist, which you'll love, that 'confusion' brought him home from his office earlier than midnight—ON MY BIRTHDAY. And he brought Champagne. Hence the sensitivity to bright lights. Nothing like keeping them on their toes. Next time, maybe sign your note "daddy." Who knows, he might make it home to dinner. Giggling.
Did I say 'indul-d-ge?' Yeah, Trask, not today. Miss Ive is not on her game.
Okay,
I'm juvenile enough to really want to read more about the bison's 'swinging both ways,' and I can't find it. Can anyone help a child find the dirty bison story?
Did find this, though:
"Bulls remain solitary or in small groups for most of the year,
but rejoin the group during mating season."
Am trying to work out this arrangement in my home. Cannot figure out why there are no takers. Seriously.
My family has offices in Wyoming as well as Utah, and I often find myself in Jackson where it is hard to find a restaurant that doesn't have game on the menu (I think the Wendy's and the Villiage Idio-I mean Inn, are the only game free bastions in the town...maybe taco bell, but we don't want to really know what goes in those tacos). Growing up we were always driving up to Jackson in the summer to work for a couple days in the office and then play a couple days out at the lake or the parks. Our parents always encouraged us to try new "weird" things and it helped broaden our perspectives on food.
Less than typical meat I've eaten in Jackson restaurants over the years...rattlesnake, bison, bear, kangaroo (from a long-defunct australian bistro), blow fish (from a now-defunt sushi restaurant that I loved.), eel, duck, goat, elk, shark, and venison. If it weren't for my exposure to those every changing restaurant, I would probably be as white bread as it comes. Now I always want to try the new and exotic, even if it doesn't taste that great it is still a great experience. I have friends who refuse to eat bison because its "weird", they have had bison steak at my home that they thought was beef and they loved it...but refused to believe it was bison when I told them.
We have bison ranchers in Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming, so the meat is readily available...but more expensive than your average beef. There is one fellow near my home who has a pasture next to his house that is home to highland cattle, llamas, navajo sheep, and bison...and they all seem to get along just fine. I've found that bison makes a great boeuf bourguignonne and it also grills beautifully.
The gay bison thing? It shouldn't be suprising, so many species of animals resort to homosexual behavior because of lack of the opposite sex or even just boredom. Have you ever seen 2 intact male dogs share a kennel for any length of time? *shrugs* Its bound to happen.
I get grass fed bison from the Amish in PA. Lots of horseradish and garlic help me with the taste which I am finding difficult to acquire.
DPR ~ My Father is actually Bear Hunting this week ~ Hasn't seen anything yet but in WI you have to apply for about 7 years before you get the permit. Hopefully he sees & gets something, He promised mom a bearskin rug, of course I had to crack up when they told me becuase all I could picture were the Hurrell Photos of Harlow on the Polar Bear rug from the 30's. Although I must admit I am very excited ofr the chance to be able to try it.
I have had Bison, it was on the menu when we stayed at Big Cedar Lodge in Mo. It was good & its a healthy food for you. John Morris the owner had Bison on the land that the some of the Ozark Cottages are located on. They were beautiful & huge.
The local Farmers market has a stand where a bison farmer sells the meat, I've never bought from them but I would do so if I didn't already have raised beef & 2 pigs in my freezer.
Rings you sound like me. I have spring lamb and part of a steer left in my freezer. My mother bought a steer at the junior livestock auction at the county fair last month, I have to go help her clean out her chest freezer so we have room for the new meat.
If you have never been to youth livestock auction I would recommend going, they are fun affairs. In our county they have the 4-H kids and the FFA kids sell their animals in the same auction at the end of the county fair. These kids have worked so hard at raising their animals (our auction sells dairy heifers, beef steers, hogs, and lambs) and they have learned so much. It is amazing to watch children as young as 8 bring their animals into the ring and set them up.
The bidding can be hilarious to watch. When I was young and me and my siblings raised 4-H lambs we made our dad promise to buy them at auction...and everyone else at the auction knew it, including the auctioneer. There was very competetive bidding and lots of ribbing from the auctioneer. In the end we usually walked away with more money than we deserved, but we always went back and boosted the animals of kids who weren't so fortunate. Now I go with my parents and buy animals on boost to support the kids (with company money of course), not only to help the kids out, but because it is so much fun. It is a lot of fun just to watch, but its even more fun to bid.
Nachista,
Now I have to go buy a lamb. How fun? See what I'm missing out on living in the city?
I love eating in Jackson Hole. The game IS good. But after a long hike, there is only one place I'll go—Mountain High Pizza Pie. Pizza and beer. Something about replenishing all that lost salt.
Thanks again for the 'jacket'—am 'wearing' it today, along with my bear pelt of a skirt. Smile.
Will take your word about the 'gay bison thing.' Not that there was anything wrong with that. Smiling more.
Spring lamb is sooo good. Unfortunately my husband doesn't like the taste. He was raised in a family that refused to try lamb because they were prejudice against "mountain maggots" as they called sheep. Sheep are hard on the landscape, but raised in the right setting can be very useful and delicious! The only lamb I can get my husband to eat is a mustard crusted leg of lamb that I roast for 6 hours, until it literally falls off the bone.
Jackson always has good restaurants for fine dining, but I miss LeJay's Sportsman Cafe (the building was renovated and now houses Burke's Chop House). It was the true locals hangout. Open 24 hours in the summer and serving hearty portions from a great greasy spoon menu, it was the place to hang out and get away from the tourist crowd. That's the thing about Jackson though, a good restaurant can last 20 years or 20 days...but they can't last forever. Favorite Jackson Restaurants that are no longer in existence: Mama Inez's, LeJay's, The Lame Duck, Betty Rock Cafe, Blue Moon Diner, Casa del Sol, and the soda fountain at the old Jackson Hole Drug Store. *sigh*
The bison thread reminds me of the embarassing Jessica Simpson gaffe that was caught on tape for her reality show and then replayed on every media outlet. She was having dinner with her husband and his brother and sister in law. The sister in law asked Jessica if she wanted some buffalo wings and she replied "No thanks, I don't eat buffalo."...um, yeah.
There is only one thing that stands between me and totally expunging red meat from my diet. And that one thing is the Bison Tenderloin that is served at "Ted's Montana Grill"(as in Ted Turner) in Naperville. Since sex has also thrust its way into this topic (pun intended), I would say that the consumption of this not so delicate delicacy is in my top ten pleasurable experiences; with orgasms being number one.
Maybe I need to get out more often . . . but it truly is a toothsome delight.
They also serve an awesome veggie burger which may help me complete my transition way from meat, but until then, whether the moon is waxing or waning, I've got to feed on bison tenderloin at least once a fortnight.
I love lamb I know many people who say the will never try it. Me I give it a taste & loved it, although it did some some convincing with veal for me though.... I will admit I happen to love eating steaks,chicken, wild game & fish ~ I make no excuses for being this way & I have no negative feelings for those who are Vegatarians. (excpet if they are Veggies for strange reasons like because Natalie Portman is one I am one also. I never understood that whole line of reasoning?...)
this may be a wierd ? but is there a difference between the quality of the spring lambs & fall lambs? Other than the time of year?
I love going to the county fairs & wathcing the bidding on the Animals & the kids showing the animals, my cousins are very involved with the 4-H program & have certainly learned more from it than my sis & I ever did being in scouts. (much of that had to do with the leaders though.)
We had a friend who in the 80's had Texas Long Horns on his farm, many people were AMAZED at how big those were, but I swear after seeing bison I can't even begin to image how it felt to the natives when the herds of them would run over the plains. What a majestic & awe inspiring expierence that had to be....
Paterlake do you know HOW MANY TIMES I have driven by the "Ted's Montana Grill" in Schaumburg?! Its going on my list of places to eat at for my next trip.. Along with the Chicago & Naperville ones.... Maybe after attending your garage sale I should eat there...
Dang it now I'm hungry for Tenderloin & can't have lunch for another 35 minutes....
Nachista-I lived in Wyoming for about a year, in Greybull, up north central. Between Cody and Shell, foothills of the Bighorn Range. I loved it, I was outside all the time, accompanied a totally hot Park Ranger bowhunting elk. I wasn't after elk...
Tony, if it takes all that to eat it, DON'T EAT IT. There's plenty of other flesh you might like better.
DPR, every heard the joke about a 'bar stool'?
More later, must dash-TA!
Rings, the term "spring lamb" is used here to indicate lambs that were born in the spring and slaughtered before their first winter. Anything past that is considered just plain old lamb for about another year of life and after that its mutton. At least that's the way people around here think about it.
Just curious, what is Natalie Portman's reason for being vegitarian?
peterlake: I have a Ted's Montana Grill about 1/2 mile from my home. When I go there (I have tried the bison) and it is ok, not great but not bad either. However, I usually get the crabcakes but they do have the best onion rings in the world!!! I think I know where I will be heading for dinner tonight.
"Just curious, what is Natalie Portman's reason for being vegitarian?"
Maybe I didn't phrase that right ~ I meant that some of her fans become Vegitarians just because she happens to be one.
That's what I though tI just wasn't sure if it possibly made a difference for its market price also....
MACKDADDY!,
I do love the "O" rings at Ted's but since I eat the bison to help a bit with cholesteral, they are a bit counter productive to my good intentions.
Have you tried the Mediterranean Tuna? It's pretty, pretty good with asparagus and garlic mashed taters.
The "half-sours" they start you off with are pretty good too.
Enjoy your dinner tonight! Key Lime pie anyone?
Dangit, is my face red-I was calling roll on yesterday's post for a GNO, and due to haste and busyness I forgot rings and belle. Sorreeee! (you're both coming too)
Peter, you are SO mannish today-I like it! Hey, baby, you're close enough if you only eat bison. Anyone who appreciates a good veggie burger is ok in my book. I love the ones at The Purple Cow here in Rock City. I make a pretty good one myself.
If I were to be a meat-eater, beyond the occasional chicken breast or salmon steak, it would be of game, and farm-raised animals that have had some semblance of a decent life. One of the reasons I became a vegetarian was the horrific conditions, intolerable cruelty and inhumanity involved in industrial meat production. Especially VEAL. It's beyond horror, the way those wee calves are treated. I'd feel too guilty eating one. I know most people don't care-we have a had a difficult time here passing a law against animal cruelty, even after troglodytes were caught burning kittens and dragging horses behind trucks, even after papers were published showing that most violent criminals started out torturing animals. But I would hope that a food animal had SOME quality time before being hacked to pieces and burnt for us to consume with our little sharp teeth. I struggle with that every time I eat meat. If it was necessary, that's one thing, but it just isn't. And of course, if we keep multiplying, the minority of humans that eat meat will become vegetarians through necessity, because there will be no economic feasibility in meat production. Already, an acre of land that produces one cow to feed one family for a year, will produce enough plant food to feed twenty families for a year. The math will decide in the end. Sorry for the sermon. Missy, love your outfit!
Save the bison! (done)
Save the aurochs! (oops, too late)
Referring back to Peter's birthday directive yesterday: doesn't EVERYONE take the whole month? *innocent look, batting of lashes*
My dear nachista: sorry for the late reply but a GNO sounds superific. Count me in! I like Haagen-Daas and Starbucks ice creams but my first love is Graeters: Raspberry Chocolate Chip. OMYGOSH... French churned (by hand) creamy smooth (18% butterfat, hmmmm) with huge pieces of delightful chocolate. I feel like I need to go to confession after eating a couple of scoops. I am glad that Ted's and Graeters a within a mile of each other.
Have a yummy day, ladies and gentlmen!
When garage/alternative bands were atheir peak in the mid 1990's, there was a three-girl Japanese band called Shonen Knife. I wasa an intense fan of their music. A favorite song to many was their:
"Bear up, Bison. Never say die!
Bear up, Bison. NEVER SAY DIE!"
Miss Jive--if i had known you were going to be that bibulous, I ccould have prescribed to you a "hangover preventive cocktail" It really works!I've prescribed to hundreds of pacients. am a hepatologist and gastroenterologist, Write to me tour next scheduled bender.
Olivia ~ I've always kond of wondered why people feel even "guilty" eating fish out of all the types of meat out there?
I can understand about the chickens, cows, bison, & other sbut the whole being cruel to fish idea really has always confounded me.
There is a member of my family who claims to be a "cute eyes vegetarian". If it is an animal with what she deems "cute puppy dog eyes" then she can't eat it. But if it has "beady little evil eyes" she says she feels ok eating it. So she can eat poultry and fish and basically anything that's not furry and cute...otherwise she feels like she's eating a pet. I asked her if that meant she could eat insects, she told me "hell no, that's a whole other kind of nasty".
The destiny of fish is to be eaten-no guilt.
For more on bison sexuality, try:
http://www.rhug.co.uk/the_farm/cms_page.asp?CMSPageID=49&SubSectionName=the_farm&MenuItemName=Rhug%20Bison%20Herd
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals#American_Bison
Olivia, you should check out Eddie Izzard's sketch on salmon, its very funny. It is track #23 on his cd "Definite Article" or chapter #25 on the DVD. We just saw him in Vegas and I laughed through the whole show and my husband and I were still laughing on the flight home the next day.
Dr. Swaim!
A hepatologist! I knew we were supposed to meet. At the rate I'm going, I'll need a regular script.
And in two years—I'll need a transplant. Can you hook me up?
Smiles.
Just ate some very tame meat surrounded by some seriously wild game.
Wooohoo, I made the honor roll yesterday, that's the first time for me. This has been a good Wednesday, my J. Peterman order arrived this afternoon so I have something great to wear for family day this weekend at the drill center (Feel good 50s skirt and black simplicitas shirt from the Last Chance Depot). My parents are going to Italy for 2 weeks, starting tomorrow, so we have unlimited use of their pool and hottub. Ok Wednesdays don't suck anymore!
Missive Ive: None other, at your service! Goodly doses of ursodeoxycholic acid and N-acetylcysteine are good attenuating liver injury from over indulgence. The sad truth about women and alcohol us that there reallly is a gender difference--men metabolize it away at twice the speed of women. Women who have two drinks per day, every day, are destined to evenutal liver failure.
If it came to transplant, you'd be a joy to have as a patient---literate, witty, a little neurotic, with many fresh opinions that are well-supported.
mark
Gotta comment on the lamb issue!
In Spain, 'cordero lechal' (milk lamb) is what they call the best (IMHO) lamb: it is lamb slaughtered before it has been weaned. It is so very good and has none of the vinagery taste of what should properly be called mutton. Anyone who goes to Spain and does not try 'cordero lechal' is either nuts or a vegetarian (and I respect those who are, though I pity them).
In England of all places it used to be possible to get true lamb (not mutton) but it was -- curiously -- all imported from New Zealand. And anyone who has lived in England knows that there are plenty of sheep in that part of the world....
Here in Texas there are plenty of cattle auctions! I like to take out-of-towners out of Houston to the Navasota auction... An amazing variety of critters are offered, but I have NEVER seen, nor could I imagine auctioning BISON... Now that would indeed be a sight! If anyone here ever wants to see something reminiscent of 'the old West', go to a cattle auction. And at least in Navasota you can eat at the attached diner which has some of the most heart unhealthy stick-to-the ribs (as in rolls of fat) food that you ever did see. But, ohhh, it is GOOD! (Nope, no bison-burgers; this place is for real cattlemen!)
For those who would like to see some photos of the Navasota cattle auction, check this site out: http://www.navasotalivestock.com/virtualtour.html
Just had a conversation about bison and bison meat with the hubby. He says they regularly saw some of those Camp Pendleton bison up near Edson Range. He says they have to cease all exercises until the bison have moved past the range, but if they aren't moving they have to call in special park ranger (her management?) type guys who have the job of officially "shooing" them off the range so they can resume training.
The Marines are under very specific orders to not approach or harass animals on the base in any way, especially bison and rattlesnakes. Which begs the question...why would you want to harass something bigger and/or meaner than you are? But then I remember that they are marines and as much as I love them, they don't always use the best judgement, especially in situations where you hear the words "Dude, check this out..." uttered. If you are ever in need of entertainment, simply go to youtube and type in "bored marines" *sigh*. Marines and children...you think your own are cute, but everyone else's are obnoxious.
Hey Nachista, did you ask your husband if the bison learned certain behaviors from the Marines? Peterman once claimed to be corps. I am not.
There is an old serial e-mail that makes its way around periodically, talking about how "And you thought you hated YOUR job" It suggests that you go to the drugstore and buy a certain brand of rectal thermometer and read where it says "each thermometer individually tested." For some reason I am reminded of that when I read in two different internet sources "full [ahem- euphemism needed] penetration occurs" between male bison. Pardon me, but who checked? If it was the Marines, I hope they were in fatigues at the time...
Peterman was a grunt? Huh, I had never heard that. Really I all know is the catalog, I don't know anything about the actually person. Sir Boyscout (as my friends in the Global Network of Devas have nicknamed my husband, all our marine friends get "knighted" with a new name) says to pass on a big Ooo-Rah, Semper Fi! to Peterman.
Don't know if the bison have picked up any behaviors from the Marines, but it makes me wonder if the Marines have picked up any behaviors from the bison. I've never heard a bison start a story with "Man, this one time, in a bar...", let's hope it stays that way.
Not to disparage our fine Marines, but my father was in the Army Air Corps during WWII and then later the commanding officer of an Air Force Reserve unit. He retired as a Lieutenant Colonel and used to take us on vacation to various military installations. One summer while my sisters and I were on one of the many fine beaches at Pendleton we noticed all the Marines PTing up and down the beach and were smitten. Da noticed and said if he ever caught one of us dating a Marine he'd lock us up til we were 30. It was an empty threat, Da was always the softy/pushover parent and when he met Sir Boyscout he was impressed enough to recant his previous statements about devil dogs.
And now I'm the lucky one waching utilities and picking up muddy boots and sitting alone one weekend a month, 2 weeks in the summer, and 9 months of training/deployment every couple of years. *eye roll* Maybe I should have listened to my father, maybe not though Mike does look awfully good in his As...and Dress Blues...and Charlies...
Some members here will have vague notions that Peterman sells men's stuff, too. I know, I know, it's just there to provide some variety for the woman shoppers, but he does offer men's stuff. And one of the early catalogs included the phrase "I can say that. I was corps." GOK what the item was, probably hbt cargo trou or something similar. Anybody else remember that?
It is getting late. Anybody want to know an internet auction source for a quirky catalogue's leftovers? Like any clearance deal, it has its limitations, but it IS a chance to get quality goods with a sense of romance and personality at a price that's hard to beat. Can't talk about this during prime time...
My husband has admired many of the men's items in the catalogs but won't buy any for himself. He has said that when Peterman starts offering old-school, wool hunting trousers he will become a regular customer. (he has searched all over 2 states for those particular pants and hasen't found a suitable pair yet)
I wish they would bring back the aviator sunglasses, Mike needs a good pair to wear when he's in his dress blues and no other style of suglasses has the right look.
Well mom and dad are leaving for their first ever trip to Italy together tomorrow morning and they just called in a panic because they don't have a converter/adapter set. I've got to run mine over to them before they turn in for the night. Bye!
Mark Swaim,
Then I will increase my pace to four drinks a day so that we may meet sooner!
I really don't drink that regularly. It's been an irregular couple of months. I'm self-medicating. Smile.
M.I.