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The Wait

December 08, 2012

I've gone to my farm in Kentucky for the weekend. It's a great place to relax, do a little hard physical labor, and forget about the rest of the world. If you don't have such a place, I highly suggest you get one.

In the meantime, what would you do?

J. Peterman

From:The New York Times



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December 08, 2012 1:47 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

The trials and tribulations of living on our wonderful planet. We get this uncontrollable stuff called weather. How inconvenient. I'm awake too early and grumpy - coffee is needed.

December 08, 2012 2:22 AM
Myself 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Spring Fragrance said...

The longest jam I've been in was almost 10 hours. We were going back to Malaysia for Chinese New Year and of course everyone was doing the same thing. Fortunately, a truck-Highway was eventually built a few years later that traversed the country from North to South. I cannot imagine a 3 day jam. With the electronics we have today though, I guess I could plug in and twitter (I would have to get an account then) every inch of the way

December 08, 2012 3:32 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

It's fascinating to read the online English edition of Pravda. Notwithstanding the fall of the former Soviet Union,  the editor & staff cannot seem to resist falling into their old ways at times,  referring to the United States as a "capitalist crocodile" out to dominate the world at the expense of the citizenry, both theirs and ours.  Perhaps we are supposed to ignore the state of affairs in Russia & other former Soviet states.  There is a proliferation of fancy automobiles of foreign origin in Moscow,  owned by the few who have managed to prosper.  Even so-called "ordinary" new cars are beyond the means of most of the ordinary citizenry.  All I would want to do, were I a member of the fortunate Russians, is drive that car to the West.  Government remains corrupt, inefficient.....

December 08, 2012 3:47 AM
Myself 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Spring Fragrance said...

Bert! I like reading the Pravda when I get a chance too. Despite its political leanings (and legacy) as a voice for the communist party, it reports on some of the weirdest stories, including conspiracies...very entertaining.

December 08, 2012 5:15 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

The best traffic jam ever that I got stuck in was in a small village in Wales that had the misfortune to have to the only major road to the nearest town for miles runninng right through the village. They were campaining for a by-pass road for years, and had got really fed up, so they blocked the road with a tractor and trailer to simulate the scenario of a road traffic accident. Within minutes, big traffic jam and no police or other emergency services could get to the scene of the "accident". Villagers were sent out to give flyers to to annoyed drivers, explaining the reasons for the delay and asking us to sign our flyer with name, zip code, reason for being on that road at this time etc. The big bonus of this episode was rooting around in the car and finding an old copy of The Times newspaper. With times on my hands, I also found a working biro and managed for the first time in my life to complete a Times Crossword. It was a loooooong traffic jam. The by-pass did get built, and opened with great pomp and ceremony, only to be closed two days later because of the road kill of a colony of endangered bats. Eeeew! high mesh fences and arrays of low energy lights were installed to encourarage the bats to fly higher over the road. Of course, the little lights attracted nocturnal flying moths and stuff, so the bats thought it was a feeding station. Enough silliness there to fuel a slim novel on The Battiness of Wales.

December 08, 2012 7:20 AM
Myself 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Spring Fragrance said...

oh Hazel! Another great story!

December 08, 2012 8:31 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

Hi there, Spring Fragrance & friends from ever so many miles across the surface of Earth!!!

December 08, 2012 8:38 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

When remembering "TransSiberian"  (2008),  a crime thriller whose landscape is the barren isolation of a Winterscape in the former Soviet Union,  I relate much better to the reference to the dilemma of those motorists trapped in the massive traffic jam in Russia.Spring,  you are correct,  notwithstanding the political bias in Pravda it has an interesting perspective on many topics, including oddball human interest stuff.  I have always been an avid reader of anything that I am fluent enough in to comprehend,  and the socialist/foreign perspective of everything (incliuding U.S. domestic & foreign policies) is very helpful.

December 08, 2012 10:09 AM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Mooseloop said...

Hello, Spring, Hazel, Bert! As Bert says, "Friends from across the Earth!" Here we are thousands of miles apart, yet able to meet and greet...what a techno world we live in! No traffic jams here on the hills of N. GA....cloudy, overcast, chilly now. Just finishing my second coffee and watching the squirrels chase in the trees.

Traffic jams in Atlanta are commonplace. Getting into the car to go into the interstate system to the city, airport, farmer's market, or to another state, a wise driver will tune the radio to the traffic/news channel to see where the jams are and try to avoid them. One good thing in this area is that there are nearly always several ways to get where you are going.

As Wed. I was driving back from downtown Atlanta, having returned the daughter's cat, the news radio announced, "Tie up on I-75 north at Delk Road. Metal in the highway, semi trailer truck and 2 cars already involved. All lanes closed." (That's 6 lanes across a major north-south interstate.) So, knowing the area pretty well, I just exited at the next ramp, drove west to hwy 41 that parallels I-75, and continued north with no delay (except the red lights along the way). Later, I heard it took over half an hour for the police and wreckers to clear the way for the traffic to move again on I-75...backed up for miles by then. By then I was almost home .(It's an hour 15 min. from my house to hers on a good day.)

The best time to get through Atlanta is at night after 8 pm or Sunday mornings.

It seems every few months there is a 100-car/truck pileup on one of the major roads in the USA, usually in the fog, smoke, or darkness. People do tend to speed, so cannot stop or avoid wrecks like they should. Add in the ones eating, cell phone talking or texting, or just not paying attention, and you have wrecks.

December 08, 2012 10:11 AM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Mooseloop said...

Hope you got your coffee, Hazel! Feeling better now?

December 08, 2012 10:22 AM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Mooseloop said...

Sorry, Mr. P --Off topic.....Was just reading an article about 3D! Caught in one of those mammoth traffic jams, you could replicate yourself a 4 wheeler and drive around the road, or a helicopter and fly right out of there! Who knew they would someday invent what used to be sci-fi on Star Trek....!

"Cup of hot cocoa with 2 sugar cookies," you say to the replicator in the TV series, and there it appears! Now, it is predicted that USA replicators will transform all manufacturing and get production back into the US from China!! They can make things from plastic, concrete, metal, and other materials. One article claims the doctors can replicate organs and other body parts to save lives. Here's one company's ad....

What do you think? Bert, this opens up a whole new feasting ground for the personal injury attorneys, doesn't it!? Seems every innovation has its ups and downs. Then, there is the issue in Wash. state of the fallout from people now driving and walking stoned with the legalization of maryjane out there.

December 08, 2012 10:30 AM
Steam_train 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoFirst-video mbailey said...

I'm sure I will be in the minority, but I don't think stoned drivers cause anywhere near the amount of trouble that texting/talking drivers or drunk drivers or "have to fix my hair and put on my make-up" drivers cause...  NOT that I am advocating being stoned and driving, I'm just sayin'.

Mooseloop - Had the pleasure of driving through Atlanta last year, it was a weeknight and it was after 10 pm, it was apparently a really good time to go through because there were hardly any other cars on the road...  Georgia is a beautiful place.

December 08, 2012 10:44 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

MBailey,  MooseLoop:   From a frequency of offense analysis,  I'm much more concerned about those who insist on texting or surfing the web than I am about marijuana users.  It has always been illegal to drive while impaired,  regardless of the drug of preference,  and with alcohol OR drugs there is always the basic caviat of only using when home for the day (or securing a designated driver).  Driverless vehicle technology is just around the corner, so much of this concern may be somewhat alleviated. Perhaps the government should legalize marijuana to adults for personal consumption,  the illegal status of the substance creates incredible ratios of selling price versus actual production cost (so the state could tax the heck out of it, and still come in well below illegal street prices).  MBailey & Mooseloop,  I swear I can get high just off the smell in Georgia's pine forests.....second to none.

December 08, 2012 10:50 AM
First-com Tawny Pippitt said...

Concerning the 3-D printing: one of the articles mentioning possible uses of the
replicator cited "exciting new shapes ... for ground turkey". The mind boggles. Maybe creating exciting new tastes for ground turkey would be a more appreciated
pursuit - something we could all get our teeth into.

As to the traffic - yikes. There are places in Atlanta for which there is no alternate
route. I can leave the parking garage after work, and depending on what dignitary
has arrived at the airport within a time frame of about four hours, it will take 45
minutes to move less than one city block.(sigh)

December 08, 2012 11:57 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-5 George Hall said...

One of the great blessings of being 12 years retired is not having to fight Atlanta traffic!!! As I believe Mooseloop expained once, the roads/streets/highways are actually animal/native American trails grown up, paved  and widened. Atlanta and North Georgia areas are wonderful places to live...Atlanta being a relatively new city looks like where the Jetsons lived and North Georgia is some of the Creator's best work. 

December 08, 2012 1:58 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Carol said...

One of the real pluses of living in a smallish town is the easy driving conditions.  Except, of course, on game day near campus!  (That's another story altogether.)  I've never been comfortable driving in lots of traffic and gridlock and large jams just send me over the edge!  I've been known to drive miles and miles and miles out of my way to avoid possible traffic jams and plan very carefully not to be in the next door big city (K.C.) anywhere near rush hour.  Hazel I love your story of the Welsh traffice jam!

December 08, 2012 2:09 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

As awful as the traffic in Atlanta sounds, I have never known anyone who moved to Atlanta (and its been quite a few)who didn't stay forever and love it.

December 08, 2012 3:12 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

I'd LOVE to see a traffic jam caused by Whales....oh,...IN Wales....

December 08, 2012 5:10 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

That's silly, for how much traffic could there be in Whales?

December 08, 2012 5:33 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

RoadYacht~ Whales are not Welsh.

December 08, 2012 6:38 PM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

Just watched the Midshipmen of Navy come from behind & defeat Army's Black Knights. It will be a long bus ride back to West Point for the cadets, especially because of the traffic jam, every minute feels like an hour as fans of both friend & foe glare in at you......

December 08, 2012 7:19 PM
First-com monkeesjunkee said...

I know this is going to sound strange but your catalogues. I love them. I get them and after reading them I pull them apart and stick them in my journal. I love whoever does the writing for them. My journal is not a diary. It is unusual facts or things that I bump into during the day. I found Peterman from Seinfeld. I am looking for the perfect item to buy. I have lost 285 lbs. I just passed my 10 year anniversary for keeping the weight off. I could not fit into your clothing years ago and now that I can, well money is tight. I wish someone would drop either a $200 gift certificate or a garment down my chimney. Journaling relaxes me. I love your Christmas catalogue. The joke here is if you don't like the weather wait 10 minutes. Kim from Buffalo, NY

December 08, 2012 8:07 PM
2012-07-19-2053-48_edited_medium 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoFirst-review Ginger said...

Hello Group!
I'm glad to see you all are up and at 'em (Hello Hazel, Chef D, Spring, Road Yacht, and Mooseloop---glad yto meet you Bert and all others).
All I have to say about Russian traffice jams due to snow is---back to the troikas with you!  Horses will never be replaced!  (I love my troika bell, bought long ago from a company that specialized in selling off the old Soviet Union's heritage.  Mr. P---Do NOT get any ideas).
Imagine what it would have been like to go "dashing through the snow," bells ringing merrily and horses puffing smoke into the morning air, as you sat, under your fur throw and dresssed to the teeth in fur (no pun intended...although if I were Tommy T it would have been!), wearing your driving gloves from Mr. P's catalog (work great with reins, trust me).  Just wave as you fly past the 10,000 stranded cars (and who knows how many people).  Back to St. Petersburg with you, just in time to wear your flowing red grecian gown to the ballet; the Nutcracker is playing you know, with the Moscow Ballet on tour for this magical night.
You toss the reins to the startled valet, along with a few American dollars (they love you for it, you crazy American), telling them, "Keep them someplace warm and give them just a little water.  They're hot and don't need to founder."  At least you hope you said that...your Russian isn't too good; haven't kept in practice since the fall of the old Soviet era.  Been working hard on Mandarin Chinese...the next Great Frontier.
Don't I get silly when I'm off dog-care duty for a moment's respite???

December 08, 2012 8:38 PM
2012-07-19-2053-48_edited_medium 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoFirst-review Ginger said...

Miss Mooseloop---how well I remember Atlanta traffic!  Don't you absolutely HATE when a big-wig comes to town and you get caught in a "rolling traffic jam."  Rolling my rear end!  You sit stark still while they fly by...along with cars of sharpshooters and Secret Service at every overpass with high=powered weapons...not to mention the helicopters. of the few things I miss about Hotlanta!  Seeing Cirque du Soliel every of the things I DO miss about Atlanta!  They should be there about now, too, darn it!

December 08, 2012 10:55 PM
270752_10150312062190804_7175723_n 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Graygoose said...

Ginger, you are right...horses will never be replaced.
HAZEL, you will think I'm fibbing when I tell you this But...This morning I went out and hooked up the stock trailer while my...the boss...went in the shed to grab the ATV so we could go after the mares. He came out of the shed with no 4wheeler. We had been robbed. No joke. But anyway, long story short, we got to the pasture with a bucket of grain and a couple hunks of alfalfa and (GET THIS) the mares ran all the way across the pasture and jumped in the trailer without even a halter. I'm not lying. They loaded themselves. All of them. That was more shocking than the fact that we'd been robbed. With all of our guard dogs.
I've missed ya'll the last couple days, hope everyone is well & having a good weekend! Catch up with ya tomorrow :) ((hugs))

December 08, 2012 11:11 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300First-comFirst-photoFirst-review magicangel said...

Hello everyone, We don't have traffic so to speak, it's nice not having to hear horns piercing the air from impatient drivers. I have a stray cat who was missing for 3 days. She came back a mess, we took her to the vet today, she has a broken jaw, part of her tongue ripped off, fractured teeth and one that had to be removed. She is on meds and was hungry, unusual for all the trauma she went through. We fed her high protein, high caloried wet cat food, she growled in pain eating, but she is strong and I know she wants to survive. BOY, what a day!!!:(

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