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"But man is not made for defeat," he said. "A man can be destroyed but not defeated." Ernest Hemingway, The Old Man and the Sea
Like Santiago's epic battle with the marlin, the creation of a collection of hotels celebrating America's hard-drinking scribe has been a long time coming. But the day has finally arrived.
The newly announced Hemingway Hotels & Resorts is preparing to develop a group of properties that embrace the intrepid spirit of the famous laureate. The hotels will be location-centric, focused on places that are linked to Hemingway's life like Idaho, Key West, Northern Michigan, the Bahamas, Portugal, Spain and Cuba. Who knows, maybe they'll eventually make it to Kenya.
The idea to build a series of hotels celebrating Papa was first born in the early 2000's; contract negotiations for about seven hotels were underway before the financial crisis hit and put the project on hold. Now, Hemingway Hotels & Resorts is back, led by real estate developer Tuckey Devlin, who seems bound and determined to succeed. The project purportedly plans to include newly-constructed and converted properties - it even has the blessing of the author's family, as well as his estate.
If there's one name hotels like to bandy about, it's Ernest Hemingway. Hemingway slept for two weeks in this room. Hemingway drank for three days at that bar. Hemingway berated the doorman at the whore house next door on multiple occasions...you get the idea.
Of course, each hotel (they'll all be 4-star) will have a library, and restaurants will feature highly. The hotel bars, apparently, will serve Hemingway's favorite cocktails which, as most know, range widely from mojitos to absinthe.
I myself am looking forward to seeing how the project pans out. One thing's for certain - those bar managers have their work cut out for them.
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Hopefully it will have the same effect on encouraging reading to the younger generations that the Harry Potter books had for children.
I wonder if there is a chain of Cervantes hotels in
Spain. Each featuring cell like accommodations and amenities. Surly
waiters dispensing gruel on tin plates, lusty wenches dispensing drinks in tin
cups. A library is not required, one book to read over and over and over. Need transportation? A donkey or for an
upgrade a weathered steed, rode hard and put up.
I know I could google this and end all speculation, but then
what would y'all do the rest of the day? Me? I've a flight awaiting.
Hello, is anybody home?
Grand Idea. Ms Typical has indulged my Hemingway adventures to Key West, Spain, and Idaho as well as the Hemingway homeplace in Oak Park. Hope my new Hemingway hat comes this week from JP. I had to archive the one I wore to the Hemingway Lookalike in 07 as it is close to disintegration. The recent Hemingway/Gellhorn HBO movie depicts that one can even make love in a Hemingway hotel even while the ceiling is falling a la Spanish Civil War and Nicole Kidman is the woman. Keeping the legend alive is the best tribute to a writer and I keep the True Gen going with a Gin Martini and an Arturo Fuente Hemingway Cigar while telling my own version of Papa's stories combined with my own "Faction", a little bit of truth with a creel full of fishy stories.
Tommy~just south of that Oak Park Hemmingway house is a fine,large Church. Imagine our surprise,on leaving a fine dinner at the Hemmingway House Hotel,with an old friend, to find a living Christmas Story! Real Camels,Donkeys,and sheep! A true Bible story, enacted, with actual animals, and Dioramas! It was awww inspiring, and having had a fewglasses of wine, and it wasn't terribly inclement (sweaters, and vests)...Hemmingway House lives in my memory along side that magical night...
Is loving Himmingway's writing a guy thing? Ladies? I'm curious. I read him in high school, (The Sun Also Rises) but never really caught the bug. I don't have one of his books in my library, I'm ashamed to say. If I decide to give him a try again, which book should it be? The hotel sounds fun, but it would probably be over our budget. There are a whole lot of expensive hotels out there I would like to try, but we usually go the more frugal route.
Oops, er, Hemmingway. Shameful typo!
Actually Marjorie, I think Hemingway is kind of a guy thing. I was surprised that Michael Palin, of Monty Python fame, had even written a novel called "Hemingway's Chair."
But is it Hemingway's writing that makes him so revered or his pre-Hunter Thompson persona--kind of over-compensatory Gonzo? Sorry guys!
Chef Deb, Hem was a lover of all things/people, and even cats.
IMarjorie I can't speak for all or most women. I have one daughter who has read most everything he has written. She also enjoyed the bull fights in Madrid. Some do, some do.
I've never really enjoyed the writing of Hemingway, either, like most of the females speaking up today. Years ago I read a fine book on one of his wives, but can't remember which one it was. My favorite reading chair I call my Hemingway chair---not because I am a fan, but the wood and wicker styling just evokes thoughts of him for some reason.
After reading a few of Mr. Hemingway's offerings and reading up on his life and times a few years back, I have concluded this:
He was an A-hole with a drunk, suicide obsessed writer hooked to it. Emphasis primarily on the A-hole part.
But that's just me.
LOL. Thanks for the opinions. I do love Michael Palin--maybe I'll get that book instead of one written by Hemmingway. I just added it to my Amazon wish list.
You know what MARJORIE, I am MIchael Palin's biggest fan. Don't spend your money on the book unless its under a dollar. Sorry Michael!
Ummgawa, I have to agree Hem was an A-hole, but a charming one when he wanted to be. I really believe he thought up an image early in life, devoted himsef to creating it, and then to living up to it. I'm one of those women who devoured his books years ago and haven't read one of them again.
I fell in love with Hemmingway my sophomore year in college.....a short story - something about "The short Happy Life of someone???" It was set in Africa and I was enchanted. The enchantment I recall was more about his wonderful style of his writing - great foreshadowing,etc. Probably I was still under the influence of my Freshman writing instructor.
Umm - I only saw a tortured soul who made friends with the bottle to aid in fighting his demons. That's just me. Oh, maybe that's me because I too like the gin martini now and then. Anyway, whatever the point of view may be - I do love his work.
I hope that the hotels have that marvelous Out of Africa style of furnishings in their public areas at least....
I've been reading for a few months but am a tad shy in expressing myself.
Welcome Gigitoo.
Deb--with that resounding recommendation, I won't rush to purchase Hemmingway's Chair. I'll stick with my current reading list (that changes all the time!) If a Hemmingway novel falls in my lap, I'll use it as a sign and read it. Otherwise, I'll finish the latest Kingsolver novel, then move on to the next book on my pile: Major Pettigrew's Last Stand-anyone read that?
To tru Hemmingway fans, it might be an obsenity but some off the funniest stuff I ever read is from the annual The Best of Bad Hemingwa contest. In it writers, for the past few decades, compete for the best writer of bad eHemmingwayesque writing. An example that stuck in my mind is "For Whom does Tell Bowl" but there are hundreds in two 'For Sale"' volumes.
Gigitoo- Welcome!
I saw a man who willingly walked into a bottle and decided to take up residence there. Unless you knew him personally, you'd know his "demons" were his meal ticket, and he knew it. The rest, in my opinion, was just a bunch of pseudo-machismo from a narcissistic whiny drunk. He was a decent writer, but the rest of his crap was just that...crap.
But that's just me.
I do not believe that a man could write such lucid prose, shnockered. I sure as hell couldn't. If Papa could, God bless him.
Thanks for the welcome - and for having fun with my typos. Guess that helps to make me "one of the guys". On probation, of course.
Gititoo=== welcome to our village. Don't remember what I read of Hemmingway. Am reading Specialist in Sports Nutrition.Fun huh??
Hello, Gigitoo~ As far as I am aware, there are no rules for being "One of the guys" except bit of faint blue print at bottom of page that directs us to stay on topic and to refrain from being abusive. We do not stay on topic, typos are permitted. I guess most people on this page are well-mannered, so to a large extent we "police"ourselves.
This hotel chain is a great idea. Imagine how enjoyabe it would be to stay in one of these places, if one could afford a four star hotel, especially if one was a Hemmingway fan.
Hazel and Magic - thank you. Early on when I first started reading I was most impressed by the civility of the Village. Certainly recognized the intellectual level in general and the apparent grand diversity. All of this and so very much more captured a few minutes of my days - then and now. thank you again for being so welcoming and kind.
An off topic note to one of the women who mentioned a few days back that finding slips was a difficulty. If you are interested, I purchase on line from the Peruvian Connection. I'm certain (I hope) that no one will mind since apparently Mr. Peterman does not stock these items. Anyway, PC has lovely slips - both full and half - made from a gossamer fabric called filament silk. Camisoles are available as well as various lengths of the garments. Black and Taupe (really nude).
Oh, and Hazel - I am so proud to tell you that the first of my ancestry to come to this continent was a 14 year old boy sent here as an indentured servant from Wales.
Now, one last word sort of on topic. Paolos, I believe that you mentioned your daughter enjoys the bull fights. So do I. At one point in my life a group of friends enjoyed going down to the border in season to experience that grand test of courage.
Of course, that should have been "ancestors" !
HEMINGWAY....one M. HEMINGWAY! Now don't any of you take that personally, please, but I just couldn't take it anymore being the bi-otch that I can be. And yes, welcome Gigitoo!
Gigtto, wow you really saw a bull fight!! Neat, I bet it was exciting seeing the matador costumes and hearing the crowd, neat~
Even if I were wealthy, I could not justify spending hundreds of dollars on a hotel room for one night.My goodness. One night could almost make a house payment for a month. When people begin discussing a restaurant from vacation, my eyes glaze over. They become so excited about food. I do not understand the fascination people have with food in general. Why is it so fascinating? So a snazzy restaurant that costs a huge sum of money to me is not fun. One could pay for one meal what could buy food for a week or more. I just don't understand.
ChefDeb, I never knew a nicer bi-otch, and centainly know what you meant by the "Gonzo" remark.
Hi, and welcome, Gigitoo.
I try to keep it relevant to the Lost Generation. The feeling among the young talented ones that WWI took the known world into the perceived brink of utter destruction. Eat and drink in all that life offers without choking. Life on The Razor's Edge. (watched Tyrone Power in the original last night) Explore the absolute limits of what it is to be human. Then tell it with much ado like a Fitzgerald (I dare say more of a lady's taste) or in short staccato like Papa. Would these hopeless ones be normal? I think not. Madness and genius are not such strange bedfellows and make for what I like most in my art and literature....interesting...it is an indulgence I allow myself along with literary heroes with massive chinks in their armor. Absinthe anyone and even Sherlock went to the opium den while working on a case.
Thank you Rusty!
Gigi2- Aloha and I hope you got your free drink and dessert coupons.
Greetings: A women, while touring a small South American country, was shown a bullfight. The guide told her, "This is our number one sport." The horrified women said "Isn't that revolting?" "No," the guide replied, "that's our number two sport."
A man goes to Spain and attends a bullfight. Afterwards he goes to a nearby restaurant and orders the specialty of the day. The waiter brings him two very big balls on a huge plate, which the tourist eats with relish. The next day he goes to the same restaurant again, once again orders the specialty of the day, and he is brought two very big balls on a huge plate. It tastes even more scrumptious. The third day he does the same and the fourth, but on the fifth day he goes to the restaurant and orders the specialty of the day, and they bring him two very small balls on a big plate. The man asks, "What gives?" And the waiter says, "Senor, the bullfighter doesn't always win!"
Sorry...I really am.
Capt'n~THAT, my friend, is a "good one"! I will pass that along...again and again...
"Calf fries" are a staple in our household. We raise the good stuff. I'm not ashamed to tell you that I am skilled at the procedure from start to finish. If you ever need a good recipe for those "fries", may I suggest eggs, milk and Wondra flour mixed with a little cornmeal then deep fried....
As far as the Absinthe...http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/pf-absinthe.html
And I'll be on the front row of the American version of the bullfights this Wednesday night as my son competes in the freestyle events of American Bullfighting LLC. I hate to brag, but I have to post a picture of my baby...
As far as Hemmingway goes, I just find it entertaining...I think he has a wonderful imagination and probably dreams a little bigger than what real life has to offer him...or maybe he has some "mommy issues"...I would love to try the hotel thing, but will probably hold out for Africa. Anyone else in love with the John Wayne flick "Atari"? I dream of baby elephants... HA!
Ahoy, hilarious!
Absinthe...makes the heart grow fonder...
Bit skimmy. ungenerous and uninformed in places.
But, it's all good here at home.
Still my favorite, and oft repeated line, "I drink to make other people interesting".....Mr (one "M")Hemingway
by the way, just what does a Hemingweigh?
(old joke from when I was a kid) #1 "If an elephant and a henway had a race, who'd win?" #2, "what's a henway?"...#1 "about four pounds"....ba dump bump,tish.....be here all week.....don't forget to tip the staff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE04BmNmgAI
Thanks RY for the link...awesome. Welcome to the new contributors of the 'village' and sad farewell to those who have left. I've been to Hemingway's house in Key West but refused to pay the price to enter. Had a drink in 'Sloppy Joe's' but prefer a good Kentucky Bourbon to what was served. Have been to Spain, Cuba and Italy and find all to be to my liking. Have also been to Idaho and Wyoming and find them to be a welcome place to be. I live in Kentucky and find it the place to stay...at least for the time being. I smoke and drink too much but at the end of the day...who really gives a damn.
He was the ultimate pigdog, but he did give us the absolutely lovely Mariel in Manhattan & for that I am thankful Mr. (one H..........CHEFD.....................the bi-otch I ADORE!) Hemingway................
KC.................good to see you in fine fettle!
RY Good link. I liked the little advertisement at the end. Good book. I don't know that I would enjoy EH giving an audiobook reading of it. I do like to listen to Dylan Thomas read his work and Ezra Pound his. He is a hoot for a boy from Idaho.
KYC ~ What would you recommend to be a good Kentucky bourbon? and how did you find Cuba? The first question is sincerely put, as is the second. But I find the second to be met most often with some form of Huh? or just a shake of the head. Y'all have a good rest of the day.
Well good morning to you, Miss Bebe. Rap some knuckles for me today. I suppose they have rules against that now. Takes all the fun out of teaching and studenting. Enjoy your kiddles today. Larn 'em sumpin.
Uncharacteristically ungracious comments today considering some of the much lesser writers whose work is better received. ???
Mariel Hemingway was born about seven months after her uncle Ernest's suicide.
Looks like we didn't have enough posts yesterday
Cold Pizza for brekfast is better than NO breakfast
Regardless of the hotel's name or heritage and especially for anything over a buck and a quarter which is a mid range price these days with all the BS taxes. I seek out towel quality and showerhead efficiency and not starting the day with a tepid shower. And due to liquid space in the TSA baggie, comp mouthwash is nice. It also seems that the more expensive the hotel, the less free movie channels you have and decent tea and coffee in the room is nice since I like a little caffeine before combing my shock of hair. I do like breakfast in the room if there is any sort of view. And I do like upgrades especially surprise ones after a long day. Makes you look up to the Lord above and say thank you after the plane ride from H-E-Double Hockey Sticks.
HOUSE............................point taken! I thought ol' Ernest was her grandfather. Hope all is well in your neck of the woods? Tell Smokey I'm sending some signals............................ PAOLOS..........................I'm just not the knuckle popping type. I do work w/ people who sadly think that disciplining children by force is quite fine. They are not women I would ever hang out w/. To be so bitter & hateful in your 20's does not bode well for the future......................good to see you...............
HOUSE............................point taken! I thought ol' Ernest was her grandfather. Hope all is well in your neck of the woods? Tell Smokey I'm sending some signals............................ PAOLOS..........................I'm just not the knuckle popping type. I do work w/ people who sadly think that disciplining children by force is quite fine. They are not women I would ever hang out w/. To be so bitter & hateful in your 20's does not bode well for the future......................good to see you...............
oops, sorry.....................
My 9:08 am email from the eye is titled Hemingway's Haunts and dated August 27.
Someone asleep up there?
Exactly the same for me KORTHAL...the big question of the day is How are you feeling and mending?!
Either somone is asleep or doesn't know how to post the Eye. My email was the same as yours, Korthal and ChefDeb, but when I tried "newer" I ended up back with Mr. Hemingway or a notice that the "master" was having dificulties. This summer certainly has been a mis-mash. Hope the vacation season will soon be over, and it won't take 12 minutes to find the postings of this great band of people.
Glad to see you this morning, Korthal. Hope you are doing better.
I don't have anything to add (I didn't yesterday either) but I wanted to say hello to everyone and I hope you all are having a wonderful Tuesday...
CHEFDEB & RUSTY:
I'm here and that's about it. Now that I'm just on Motrin I feel the pain a lot more. I'm sure in about 3 weeks to a month I'll feel whole again.
Morning People!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ljxpyH4dnA
Oh my gosh KORTHAL, did you ever set me off! What is wrong with the doctors in this country? Is it the DEA & insurance? Why shouldn't you be comfortable with meds that are over-the-counter in many countries but disallowed here. My head is still shaking back and forth from a terminal patient being told they can't have any more painkillers because they might become addicted. Your injuries were extensive, for you to have to rely on Motrin now is SOOOOO stupid! I am so sorry you are having to suffer more than you should be. In Canada and the UK they know how to kill pain.
RY....you need to make up t-shirts with that one. (8:42)
ChefDeb-- and yet, oddly enough. I keep having doctors throwing prescriptions for pain my way. I fill them and hold on to them, still figuring that they must know. Korthal....wish I could share. Hoping it gets much better SOON
Being a fan of Hemingway,s writing but not of him as a person makes me wonder if I should enter into todays discussion.
TT -I read some place that Hemingway did not smoke because he felt that a writer should have acute senses about him,or her, in order to describe things which he seemed to do very well. He felt that smoking would distort his sense of smell and not allow him to describe certain things as well as he could. Didn't seem to worry about booze distorting his sense of taste however.
Back door is open!
Being a fan of Hemingway,s writing but not of him as a person makes me wonder if I should enter into todays discussion.
TT -I read some place that Hemingway did not smoke because he felt that a writer should have acute senses about him,or her, in order to describe things which he seemed to do very well. He felt that smoking would distort his sense of smell and not allow him to describe certain things as well as he could. Didn't seem to worry about booze distorting his sense of taste however.
BEBE: you're correct. Mariel and the late Margaux are Ernest Heminway's granddaughters. Children of his first son, with Hadley his first wife, I think his name was John (the son) but I can only recall the nickname Hemingway gave him: Bumby. A big guy like old papa, and he calls his son Bumby. And you're right again, BEBE, he was a pig-dog, who did not like women. He liked sex with women, or, he liked to talk about all the sex he'd had with lots of women, but he didn't really like the female gender. He didn't like men either, really, but he wanted to be admired by them. By the end of his life, he didn't like anyone at all, as is illustrated by the photograph up top by the essay. I think he was an SOB who made a myth of himself, and was found out as time passed by all of those he knew and worked with...women could see through him more quickly than men. Quote Zelda Sayre Fitzgerald, who disliked him on first meeting, and it went downhill from there: "He's as phony as a three dollar bill. Bull fighting and bull slinging - it's bullshit. No one can be as all man as he pretends to be." His reply: she's crazy, to which she said 'takes one to know one.' She was right.
go Zelda
Belated hello to Gigitoo! We share a name I suppose!
Hemingway was overrated as a writer (except for The Old Man and the Sea which I have to say is extraoridinary) and as a man. Why don't we all pick a writer we would prefer to see hotels built around. For me, it would be Karen Diensen ala Out of Africa "I had a farm in Africa at the foot of the Ingong Hills...I had a farm in Africa...")
PARK.............it's like old home day.................made my day to see you & CHEFD........WHO IS IGNORING MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I thought of you just now, ol' bouncy jowls is yammering away on tv, I believe you once called him Howdy Doody (which so unbelievably cracked me up).......it fits.........I call him," Get out of our v*g*n*s Rick Santorum." I hope all is well your way....................Al Gore is on......................he absolutely makes a Chunky bar seem paper thin..................I feel positively Veruschka like.........................
Time to reread Tender is the Night....................
I marjorie, ChefDeb, Carol and Rusty and bebe.(helloooo).......I read Hemingway when I was much younger, but didn't really care for him. Now I'm just not very interested in anything Hemingway. Park4, you've summed him up quite well.
TT, we watched The Razor's Edge last night too. Very good movie.
Hi Gigitoo, welcome to the village.
Korthal...I hope you have a speedy, painless recovery..