Many taboos are being questioned about their relevance, and relevance seems to be winning.
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July 17, 2012
A well-known TV host confesses his sins in front of a nationwide audience, gets laughs and gets to keep his job.
A sportscaster for ESPN gets fired for the same offense and heads off to “sexual addiction” camp.
“It’s not my fault. It’s my addiction.”
Actually, this may be a rare triple standard.
Since if a woman committed the same offenses it wouldn’t be excused as sexual addition; she’d be called something else.
The term double standard, coined in the early 1950s, by whom we don’t know, refers to any set of principles containing different provisions for one group of people than for another. Esp: an unwritten code of sexual behavior permitting men more freedom than women.
Men were especially wise not to write it down.
Aristotle believed you couldn't judge unequal things equally. Which was good since nobody understood what he was saying and got him out of making any sense on the subject.
So it was left up to Greek mythology, where Apollo had a ball with Kyrene, while his twin sister Artemis, the virgin goddess, cavorted with nymphs in the woods. In real Athenian life, adultery was fine, as long as men committed it.
The Romans' believed that wine was a daily necessity of life and promoted its widespread availability to all classes. Except for women, where drunkenness was punishable by death.
Because of what it might lead to.
With centuries to think about these double standards, 18th century philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau in “Emile,” one of the most enlightened men of the age, saw the role of woman: "to console us, (men) to render our lives easy and agreeable; these are the duties of women at all times, and what they should be taught in their infancy."
James Boswell in his "Life of Samuel Johnson" recalled the good doctor believed that it was easier for women to be faithful, since he considered their sexual needs less pressing.
The more things change…how does that go again?
And yes, women have made, as they say, great strides. They're getting equal pay on the tennis courts, in spite of them not playing as many sets as men.
Further good news (and bad), in equalizing things, is that men receiving alimony seems to be climbing.
However, I’m not sure what we gain when feminists recently criticized President Obama for excluding women and playing in a male only basketball game. Funny, men aren’t that upset when they receive no invites to bridal showers.
There still are some differences.
still thinking about today...
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Hey, did everybody leave the village to go into town for supplies and not tell me?? As mankind has evolved, and part of the issue here is human evolution, we step forward into the world KNOWING that no man would be in existance except for the loins of a woman.
It was a man who first discovered today's new topic.
It was a woman who first discoverd today's new topic and a man who admits he is WRONG and BESTED by a woman.
Viva la difference~!
Whoopeee! New topic! Men not inviited? I had a girlie housewarming party planned many years ago and a friend called at the last minute 'Eeeek! I have an unexpected male houseguest - he's lovely etc. can I bring him?' 'Well, only if he wears a frock and high heeled shoes, carries a handbag (purse?) and does not flirt.' The man rose to the challenge and as the wine flowed, he sat back and listened - and said that evening of half a dozen intelligent women having a laugh was the most educational 'woman' experience of his life. Good sport, the frock was hideous and the shoes too large. The handbag (purse) was an antique and very pretty.
I do think that more people are paying attention to what the upside potential would be if women ruled the world. Women work hard, stay home, take care of families. Men go to war with each other.
At the risk of having my name bandied about and held up for public scorn I must say that I love how God made us, differences and all, especially our differences and despite our imperfections somehow males and females (some holding their noses I understand) each find the other irrestible.
Well there is Nancy Pelosi. a shining light for all women. We have to pass the bill to know what is in it.
We still don't know if it was Queen Elizabeth or Margaret Thatcher that
pulled the trigger on Argentina. And let's not forget Casey Anthony, a
good example of a stay at home, hard working, care giving, mom. I am just saying that incompetence and aggression know NO gender.
As the famous song stylist Maurice Auguste Chevalier, with his cane and dapper strong hat would sing......... Tank heaven, for the grand ladies of the EyE.....
Me thinks it's a question of balance with an answer that has just been outside of our reach.....
Nos da
One man alone is capable of many deeds fair and foul (fowl, if he is a duck hunter). The commission of adultery is not one of them.
'...irresistible !!!#$@$?'
My Aunt said on an occassion, ""Men, Think with your brain and not your gonads....and for women, ongoing thoughts of pro-creation...and raising children is inherent....in the "jeans..ok genes....human natures have strong desire...is a pressing....heart emotion....to conceive..." love in a gift of nature.""
PAOLOS...................you beat me to Margaret Thatcher.................d*mn........................
Stoney ~ Jimmy Carter would disagree.
Seeing 'Stand Up and Be Counted' in the 70's and hearing Helen Reddy belt out "I am woman hear me roar" takes me to a time when I started to think about a few things. Still am. Preparing for a whirlwind road trip- biz, plez, and adventure; Tommy Bahama in my mini steamer trunk, Tom's shoes on my dogz and Tommy Typical style in my presentation and since my daddy was John- a little "J" Peterman for that old panache the kind that means regardless of gender, race, or creed you are a potential customer or just great company so I love you and your standards equally whether it's even, double, or triple standards.
Former president Carter's comment was probably made offhand… so to speak.
George I love our differences too. I think I was born in the wrong decade. I would have been better as a housewife half a century ago, happy to send the husband off in his suit for a hard day's work at the office while I too charge of the home. But modern gender roles are confused and sometimes non existent.
I hated that my exhusband and I both worked, but I made twice as much as he did and paid all the bills, yet he still expected me to do all the shopping, cooking, cleaning, and gardening...while he "had a rough day" and disappeared to play WofW on the computer all night while I did the dishes and walked the dogs, and still be expected to be a sex kitten in the bedroom at midnight when he decided to come to bed, regardless of the fact that I had to be up in 6hours...because "That's just what women do". If I had known this before we married I would be single instead of divorced today. However if he had earned enough to pay the bills and I didn't have to work you never would have heard a peep out of me about doing all the house stuff, I would have done it, done it well, and been happy.
There has to be a limit on how much anyone expects from someone else, especially in what men expect from women...because we women will try to do it, and eventually we will take on so much that we will work ourselves to death trying.
I'm not sure who said "Women who seek to be equal with men lack ambition", but ain't that the truth?
JUST KIDDING GUYS!!!
I'm disabled, so I don't work (my husband does) so I feel it's my responsibility to clean up the house even though he doesn't expect me to. He cooks most of the meals, so I clean up after dinner...
Marriage is a team effort, and when played as a team, you win. And the two most important words in marriage are "Yes Dear"
Oh RY~ How sweet and true!
My early days were spent listening to women because that was mostly all I had to work with.
Then, I grew up and listened to them by choice just for the novelty of not already knowing what was coming.
I do not watch The View.
BTW, thanks to all for the well wishes and prayers for my trip tomorrow... I know I am still new here, but it is much appreciated. At the very least I know I will get occipital nerve blocks so at least that should help the headache portion of my problems.
Just so you all know, I really enjoy being part of the village. You all seem like a great group of people (I want to call you characters, but I don't want to offend anyone)...
I still have not been invited to the discussion today. Waa waa waa!!
People I simply loved all the bantering yesterday...
Different standards? As in country flag, white flag, war flag???
Flags used to be the standard. Now it's supposed to be Miss Manners?
My dad always used to say, " I put on my pants the same way he does. One leg at a time!". I think that's a pretty good "standard".
MBAILEY:
That was a Timothy Leary quote.
Bebe--I read your comment from late yesterday about the cucumber water.....and today at the store I actually saw Cucumber Soda!!! And yes, I bought some to try, altho' haven't had a chance yet. The company that makes it also does rhubarb (that sounds yum), lavender, and a vanilla. On each carton there is a list of the the four ingredients that go into it and some pairing suggestions--and it's not just hot dogs and hamburgers! Cukes, along with watermelon, are some of the most cooling foods in the world in my book.
Brava Nachista!!
Carolbabcock~ Don't wait to be invited ..... just pitch in and say what you think. Works for me. x
Mbailey. peaceful and smooth treatment for you tomorrow. you will be in my thoughts and prayers.
Thanks! Hazel!!
I saw Mr. Peterman's plaid dress on an Indiana State Representative yesterday...funny...how I don't like it anymore...
Miss CarolB ~ Did it look better on Mr. Peterman?
Nachista~Unfortunately I recognize a lot of truth in your comments...there are some sorry men out here BUT there are some good ones too. Women just have my blind-assed support 'til they prove they don't deserve it...which hasn't happened very often in these 76 years. Be of good courage!
Carol~ A friend from this page sent me some Peterman catalouges, as I had no idea what Peterman is, being a 'foriegner'! I love the artwork!
Hazel---if you scroll all the way to the bottom of this page that you're reading, do you see a link for JPETERMAN.COM? If you do, that's the catalog.
Haha! an Amerian catalog, not an English catalogue!
O ***** American!
Have to agree with ChefDeb, George Hall and nachista. Love the difference between me and the men, but did not even understand there was a double standard till I was in college and a male student told me I couldn't study law because I was a girl. I was so naive I thought at first he meant it was because I was not yet 21 and he was. This was in 1959. As I discussion continued I learned it was because I was female. The young man was quite shocked to learn it was my father and grandfather who wanted me to go into law. In departing his company I offered sympathies to his future wife whom ever she might be.
What mystifies me is - What possible profit could Mr P gain from hosting this page? Is it done for the medicinal laugh a day? I do like to think so.
Hazel--beats me, but I'm sure glad he does! I've purchased from JPeterman over the years and have always been extremely pleased---wish that I'd have won the wardrobe sweepstakes!
Paolos!!! Mr Peterman is as alusive to me as he is to the whole village!!
The dress was in a political picture...I believe Mr Peterman had given up possession of ownership by the time I saw it.
Paolos: you're reading "the" book! I'm so glad you like it, it is pretty darned outstanding, first book or not - as for you thinking he's a better scribe than FSF, I might not give you an argument. I can see the flaws in Fitzgerald's writing, the novels I enjoy but I do wonder if they were meant "for the ages" - if their shelf life was intended to be so many many decades, I don't know if they age well - I think, definitely, he was a hell of a short story writer, he loathed writing short stories, had no respect for them because I think they were easy for him to write (a writer's perversity) - but he was good at them, better than at the novels. .... I guess as long as someone stumbles over "Gatsby" and is enthralled enough to try and put it on film every couple of decades, the Fitzgerald Mystique will go on - and on and on...... Anyhow, I'm so glad you like George Washington's rules, which aged very well, such behavior never goes away, regardless of how uncivil people tend to become now and again. .... Love to hear your take on the book when you're done.
ChefDEB, I'm honored to ride shotgun for you. XX
BEBE: I think you've got it! Hugs, kiddo.
Stoney: If you'd said you did watch the View, I'd have needed therapy. Hopefully, outpatient, but it would have been a very serious shock to my psyche. There are some things that I fool myself into thinking I KNOW, and that I CAN RELY ON, one of which is you're not a guy who watches the View. To find out differently would be like removing the load-bearing lego from my Lego house.
Hazel, I believe this page is part of a subtle a multi-media campaign. Only for the most part everyone who comes here already loves the owner's manual and its contents. Any advertising is good advertising I guess, but I don't know for sure.
Miss Carol ~ I don't think a winner has been
announced. Bert will let us know when it is time.
Miss CarolB ~ Speaking of pictures, Mr. P's touch still
registers on this page.
Just when you think
he is nowhere to be found. New catagories too.
As for double standards here’s a pair…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s1CKBUF03M
Double standard? What double standard? I've lived with 3 different guys over my past 47 yrs. and as long as they make me feel joyful, pull their own weight, take out the trash occasionally, and don't talk down to me, I am a "happy camper."
I have been fortunate to share my life with 3 outstanding men, and have no complaints. It seems that anyone who lives in an abusive relationship, does not get joy out of the sharing, and feels overly put upon should pull up stakes and go.
As I used to tell the teens who got all dramatic over breaking up with the latest girl or boy friend in high school, "Dear, the opposite sex is like buses, another one comes along about every 12 minutes, so don't settle for one that is not going your way."
Sure, there are double standards, but a lot of getting along with anyone is a trade off.....If you are getting what you want out of the deal, don't whine about the little bumps in the road. And sometimes he cooks and I take out the trash.
Applewood and cherry bacon on the grill for BLT's. Maters are most excellent right now.
Never mind double standards. I'm off to my double bed where I can sleep like a starfish 'cos it's all mine. Coco cat will find a crook of arm or leg to snuggle up in. Nos da, dear people.x
I am sorry. I thought you said Applegate. Miss Bebe ~ I know you are AMish but it's Andy, Andy Petite...(I know, I am bad)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQhHyHkCeBo
PAOLOS..........................Andy Pettite, you said Andy Pettite.........................I'm going to try & unAmish for a few minutes....................tormented, beautiful, Ialian......will wonders never cease????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm going to try & go off the reservation for this one.....................that nose, that mouth...................................
I am somewhat (not very) sorry. Do you forgive me?
that's leaning toward a negative, paolo. He wasn't even Italian, most likely Austrian or Schwarzeneggarian.
For a while earlier, the post count for yesterday had gone from sixty-six to thirty-two.
I, more than most, could imagine why there might have been a temptation to get in there and tidy up.
Scrolling through, thirty-one seemed like it would have been better still and then, it went back to sixty-six.
Be interesting to know what was going on there but we'll never know.
STONEY: There are a great number of these Topics that this Village has covered, several times in the past four years that I have been around ....... Perhaps, it is simply a matter of some not wanting to beat a dead horse ....... Seems they never get up and run ......
I think what we add here goes onto our 'permanant record' (the one that follows us from Kindergarten on..)hey wait...! we have teachers , and former teachers here....so just WHAT,AND WHERE is that permanant record kept?!?!...Anyway, I think that may be Mr Peterman's objective; to watch us progress, and by doing that, he gleans what styles and desires he may feed in/from his catalogs....we ARE the standard of the World!(so stand tall,polish your shoes,and be resilient, the village,and the WORLD, depend on us...)
RY---will you marry me? And Carol, be careful! That cucumber water you bought might be taxed soon!
As for today's topic, how did we ever change from our origins? Humans once WORSHIPED the female. She was Gaia---the Earth Mother from whom all things were born. Somewhere along the road men got into their heads because they were physically stronger that meant they were rulers over women...and proceeded to make it into law of the land and a part of the culture. Now womer are forced to undergo clitorectiomies so that they will never enjoy sex (there's that old taboo thing again) or are doused in gasoline and set afire because they "displeased" their husband. In Brazil it's OK for a man to murder his wife if she cheats on him, but he'll be prosecuted if he kills the man.
I'm all for viva la differance, but not the glass ceiling (which DOES still exist) or the Feminine Myth (whereby women who are high achievers are made to feel their brains are not as good as males---teachers call on males much more frequently in class than females, for example, thus cultivating that idea). What a crock! I've had to fight to be a successful woman, not only with the profession I was in but also in my own (now defunct) marriage. Anyone that cannot accept that we can be separate but equal should hang their heads in shame.
And wow! how did I ever get on a soapbox today? This is twice I've snapped at folks! Sorry, but I feel what I feel.....