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I've gone to my farm in Kentucky for the weekend. It's a great place to relax, do a little hard physical labor, and forget about the rest of the world. If you don't have such a place, I highly suggest you get one.

In the meantime, here's something that suggests more of a byte was taken out of one of our more successful companies than first suspected. I hear the "Genius Bar" was just as crowded.

See you on Monday.

J. Peterman

From: The BBC

 

 

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August 13, 2011 12:22 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

It's not nice to fool Mother Nature.

Oh.

Oh, you're talking about the computer people. Those Apple people.

Uh, never mind.

August 13, 2011 12:26 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

Johnny Appleseed wouldn't like this fakery one bit.

It would rile him right down to the core.

August 13, 2011 12:27 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

Guess you could call this something of a Catch 22, Chinese style.

August 13, 2011 12:56 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

An apple a day,

May keep the doctor away,

But a fake Apple store byte,

Why, ain’t no way that is right.

August 13, 2011 1:22 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

Just wondering:

How come I always seem to get the graveyard shift here in the Village?

August 13, 2011 2:40 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

lottttt lottt....at least todayyyyyy it should be obvioussssssss.....marshmallow sticky fingerzzzzzzz

August 13, 2011 2:43 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

and I actually have a caveat t add...those orange collored cheezey thingys....that is why i have sticky fingerzzzzz tonite.....(chianti goes good with Trader Joe's cheese puffs)

August 13, 2011 2:50 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

oh,and turn-about IS fair play....my Chineese restaurant has NO Chineese cooks....so, I asked the owner where he found these other cooks that understand the Chineese waiters...HE took me aside ans said "shussh"..."they think they are learning English.."

August 13, 2011 3:01 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

ok...as long as I am awake, have had a libation, I cannot resist one more joke......the elderly oriental couple were in bed. It was their anniversary. So in his most romantic quavering voice, the husband said..."how about a little sixty nine?"....the wife, of ,lo, these many years, said "why you want beef and broccoli at this hour?!?"

August 13, 2011 6:49 AM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

Lot & RY ~ Got me going early -- smiling, almost out loud

August 13, 2011 6:51 AM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

RY ~ cheese thingies and chianti -- that actually sounds really good

August 13, 2011 7:10 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Morniing all ~ RY~ a joke like that before breakfast is a great start to the day. lotlot~ you do a grand job of being Queen of the Gaveyard Shift. I'm trying to figure how to get you to bring me a double strong coffee in bed every morning. I wonder if those Apple things have an ap for that?
 

August 13, 2011 7:25 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Ooops Andy~ you posted while I was typing. I'm going to steal your phrase "smiling out loud."

August 13, 2011 7:28 AM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

Hazel ~ it's yours

August 13, 2011 8:16 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

John  Peterman's  celebration  of  National  Left  Hander's  Day  with  free  shipping  is  truly a  left-handed  compliment.... (groan...lol) 

August 13, 2011 8:33 AM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

Bert ~ maybe a "groaner", but still.....there's that smile (and since we're not "live and in person", it's not just polite).

August 13, 2011 8:39 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

My Ex#1 claimed he could not iron his own shirts 'cos he was left handed. I dragged him by his beard to the other side of the ironing board. "Behold! A miracle!"

August 13, 2011 9:11 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Ummm - It says in the Bible that just one bite (or byte) 0f the apple was the start of all our woes.

August 13, 2011 9:18 AM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


The Chinese students interviewed on the subject, spoke English and did it well... smiling.
There was no need to trust in a translation of incomprehensible, boingy, tonal, almost musical, crabby sounding speech.
What they said was that they didn't really care whether the products that they were being sold were pirated or not. "It's cool stuff."
Their answers to questions regarding the ethical component of shafting Apple in the process were international: shrugs.
That a string of unauthorized Apple stores could spring up without the knowledge and complicity of some levels of Chinese government is as easy to believe as no one in authority in Pakistan having known of the presence of OBL.

This afternoon, I will order the third new i-Mac desktop since nineteen ninety-nine. It will be a bit more expensive than the others but more powerful in many ways by an order of magnitude... maybe more.
Others, four of which are still in service somewhere in the family, we bought used on E-Bay.
I wonder how much of that usefulness will ever be realized.




August 13, 2011 9:22 AM
The_philosophy_tommy_typical_bookcover 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Tsk Tsk. I imagine that the original PIRATES OF SILICON VALLEY (or at least their legal department) are upset over having their ID stolen. Xerox might have felt the same way about the mouse perhaps? In the shiniest of APPLE's one runs the risk of finding a maggot.
 
The old idiom Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery is for the most part true and the Chinese have made an artform out of it. My personal experience at The Apple Store has always been a positive one based on a great product line, an informed personable sharp looking sales staff, and in a very cool space.
 
If you continue having great ideas and lead the way in innovation, those who follow by copying will always be second place though sometimes it may not seem that way.

August 13, 2011 9:35 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Carol said...

..oooooohhhhhhh  RoadYacht--you are in rare form today.   And all I can say about today's topic is "how 'bout them apples?"

August 13, 2011 10:06 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

I got less than nothin'..............................

August 13, 2011 10:07 AM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


RY ~
I've probably told this before: Big important man wearing an off-white suit and not very well, discovers a bright orange blot on the seat of his pants.
At a loss without his almost ever-present, sycophantic assistant, Ms. Boykin, he wonders aloud: "How the heck did that happen?"
"Oooh, ooh, I know, sir! Maybe Ms. B. had been eating Cheetos."

August 13, 2011 10:11 AM
The_philosophy_tommy_typical_bookcover 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Stoney- Great stuff. "Engelbart envisioned a world where universal collaborative computing would augment human thinking, raising the collective IQ and solving important problems." I dream that computing would raise the collective IQ and The Eye is an example with the topics and the expanded perspective in an environment of freedom of expression.

August 13, 2011 10:31 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

RY, your 2:20 AM post was a good one.

August 13, 2011 10:37 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Hey, Bebe~ I'm just starting on a scribble that is The Conversation between Eve and the Serpent about the shiny ripe apple. I'm sure you could do a better job of it. I'm having a laugh imagining a serpent describing the deliciousness of a good apple - and it would have to be a male serpent. Don't think you have nothing to say.

August 13, 2011 11:31 AM
8251 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Kentucky Curmudgeon said...

RY ~ Is that anything like 'Combo #5'...

August 13, 2011 11:31 AM
8251 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Kentucky Curmudgeon said...

Or...'me love you long time Joe'...

August 13, 2011 12:00 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Carol said...

Bebe--c'mon........you're a teacher--you always 'get an apple for the teacher' and I'll bet you have at least one little munchkin who is the 'apple of your eye'.....

August 13, 2011 12:21 PM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


With apologies to BEBE who probably won't be able to view this:

http://youtu.be/cqxTUxzOceE

Hey, we can say anything we want about it, she'll never know that it was Andy
Pettite leaving his cell number for her in spray paint  on the side of a freight car.

August 13, 2011 12:35 PM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


You could do better, a lot better, than having to come to me for computer help but some have.
It's so much easier with a Mac that I demur if it involves a PC. There are more people out there conversant in the ways of the dark side anyway.
It is a matter of user friendliness and intuitiveness... if that's a word.
Although, come to that, I do not use an Apple mouse. It kept performing amazing acts of wizardry: zooming, scrolling, opening tabs and bookmarking, unbidden, or so I thought.
I have to get over to the bay. It's the children's fisheree today.... and it's free to watch.

August 13, 2011 2:18 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Mooseloop said...

Stoney -  Thanks for the laughs with the vid of the surfing bulldogs!! What a lark!
Pirated Apples, pirated DVD's, pirated CD's, and all manner of cheapo merchandise for sale in our $ Stores and Fred's and Wally Worlds, as well as melamine in the dog food, unsafe drywall sheets, and other shoddy products coming out of China.....is there a pattern here?
Perhaps the manufacturing in such a huge country has outgrown its own ability to supervise and police its quality controls? Caveat emptor never seemed so appropriate! 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveat_emptor
And then there is the old "In the Shade of the Old Apple Tree".....
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Shade_of_the_Old_Apple_Tree
 
Not likely to make the Hit Parade today....
 
My first Apples were the 2E's in our first school writing lab that I piloted in 1986 in our large high school. Most teachers were appalled that we had to learn to use them, supplementing our nice typewriters!   The big black disks for saving data were actually "floppy." Then, the journalism classes began to use the Apple SE, small, compact, and portable (now only a doorstop) for our copy to put int he yearbook and later newspaper printing for publication.  That was a revolution in that we could count the headlines and make copy FIT right there ont he screen--wonders!!
 
Since, have switched over to the Dell PC and stayed with it, although I know there are offices that swear by the all-Apple technology. I have been told the Apple is much better at drafting and art work. Survey here? Who has Apple and who is on a PC??

August 13, 2011 3:35 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

Mooseloop, it's Apple, Apple, Apple for me.

Used them for a couple of decades now.

Wouldn't trade them for anything I have used or seen.

Use Apple for graphics and writing.

Even have my Apple loaded up with music so I can listen while I work.

Be interesting to see the results of your survey.

August 13, 2011 4:16 PM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Could we get a show of hands from all of you who abhor being asked for a show of ha...
Oh, never mind.

August 13, 2011 4:45 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Stoney~ one hand waving.
 

August 13, 2011 4:52 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

I respectfully join BEBE in I got nothing....eat hearty everyone! (yeah I know, apple pie, etc...its just too hot)

August 13, 2011 5:05 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

No, no Chef Deb~ those pretty open pastry bases with beautifully arranged apple slices served cold with vanilla ice cream.

August 13, 2011 5:05 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Mooseloop said...

Forget it....I just thought it would be interesting to see how the PC vs Apple loyalty shakes out.....Did not mean to start a fight! Had no idea that some people don't like polls. We used to be polled at the top of the Eye page, and most said they liked that. Forget it.

August 13, 2011 5:21 PM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Moose ~

You're right, it would be interesting because, of course, everybody is using one or the other... probably the other.
Maybe, it's just a beautiful day everywhere. It sure is here: sunny, 75º with a nice breeze.
With rain once, twice or more every week, Park4 had it right: every green in the whole box of crans.

August 13, 2011 6:07 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 George Hall said...

KC~ This one may be to old for you but here we go...."Hey Joe, I be your die-joe-bie number h%$#ing one; you be my skivvy honcho", from the Korean War era.

August 13, 2011 6:10 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Today started off with 22 fake Apple stores in China. Stores and markets in th UK are full of fake goods made in China. Nobody is going to upset the applecart.

August 13, 2011 6:19 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

haze, it is a fake world. Fake butter. Fake sugar. Fake bacon. Fake eggs. Fake milk.
Fake . . .

But those of the Village are the genuine, real thing.

Amen.

August 13, 2011 6:27 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

Moose--I'm so tired today I didn't even see the question. I loved the polls as well. I have only had a computer for a few years and its PC. My friends with Macs all adore them but this is what it is. When its planned obsolesence kicks in I willl probably go the way of the apple too.....but I can't find the fight to which you are referring...

HAZEL apple dumpling, baked apple, apple crisp, apple brown betty.....

August 13, 2011 6:47 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

ChefDeb~ I'm waiting a few weeks for the harvest of Bramley Apples to come in. They are a superlatively good cooking apple. One of them, cored and stuffed with brown sugar and my secret stash of sultanas steeped in whisky.... baked and smothered in comforting English custard, O, I can't tell you how good it is without getting banned from this page.

August 13, 2011 7:02 PM
Img_0144 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

If folks would only use their energy and creativity to come up with something new and hopefully better, but at least more ethical than riding on the back of someone elses creative energy and theit courage to take such a risk by competing head on with PC's....

Now that would be something to be proud off....even on a micro scale.

Oh yea....love any form of baked, hot apples too.

August 13, 2011 7:15 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

I'm pretty much down on the idea of imitation being the highest form of flattery:  several months ago, it was brought to our attention that our privately owned company which operates only within the US, has a Chinese counterpart, one that shares our name and logo and website - with the edition of a phone number that careens throughout the United States in a dangerously circuitous manner, ends up in Flagstaff Arizona where it takes a long leap to someone in Beijing China who alleges to be us - the real "us" as in me and our employees.  They offer what we offer at a cost so low as to seem - unreal.  Suspicious.
\
And that's what got those Chinese "imitators" in Beijing shut down, ultimately.  Their promises were too good to be true, and one of our customers called us and asked if we were working in China.  God forbid.  So:  It was a case for the Feds and I don't know and don't care to know what they did or how they did it  - but for now they are not operating under our name. 
 
 
A pox on 'em, over there in Beijing China who couldn't resist taking a swipe at US "greed" and "consumerist culture" when S&P downgraded us.  I guess their idea of good economics is to use pre-existing successful US small businesses, instead of putting in the work and sweat to start their own legit company in China.
.
I downgrade China for unprofessional, illegal, and general crappy behavior.  I think a half a star would be about right.  Or less.
 
That's no way to treat a global neighbor
 

August 13, 2011 7:26 PM
The_philosophy_tommy_typical_bookcover 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

My bro in law is playing at a pool party tonite and I may sit in on With A Little Help From My Friends and Alice's Restaurant. I dunno. He is a better guitarist than I am a singer but Tequila is the great equalizer. I will use any gadget I can get my hands on even a tin can with a string. Shucks, they gave us gunpowder and Marco Polo stole his share of technology didn't he? Solomon said and I paraphrase "ain't nothin' new under the sun."

August 13, 2011 7:41 PM
First-comHr-1 Lady J said...

If the Chinese can't tell a fake Apple from a real Apple, maybe we could pay our loans in counterfeit dollars? With such a low level of quality control they might never figure it out.

I have neither a PC or an Apple, all my postings come to you viia my daughter's Droid. Mistakes and all. Should we ever break down and join the computer generation I have heard Apples have fewer hacking problems. That will surely change if all the issues with hacking and China continue.

I once had a potatoe soup in Germany that is the best I have ever eaten and the chef told me the secret was in the apples. Have looked and sampled and have yet to find a recipe as wonderful.

Caramel apples, candied apples, applets, fried apple pies, fried apples over German pancakes....

August 13, 2011 8:19 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

And when we were kids, those belly-ache stolen apples from somebody else's backyard.
Duvet time in gloomy Wales. Why am I wearing a woolen sweater over my T-shirt in August? I demand a refund on this summer. Nos Da, dear Villagers.

August 13, 2011 8:29 PM
Bisa-avatar 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 JaxZ said...

Nos Da Haze. xxoo

Here's what started us down the path, way back in 1984. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8

People will use whatever they want. I personally just want to turn the light switch on and have light. I don't want to know why the switch works, how it works, or have to ask someone else about the process. I also don't want to have to change lightbulbs constantly, worry about someone stealing or breaking my lightbulb or pay for a more secure lightbulb every 7 or 8 months.

Oh, and the guy I sleep with knows just about everything you can know (he used to write a newspaper column on this particular switch) about'em, pretty much ensuring that I can continue my state of ignorant bliss.

Stoney the dog(s) made my day. Maybe several.

Damn. A Skunk just sprayed under my livingroom window. We should ship THOSE to China. They don't have any.

August 13, 2011 8:42 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Hahaha Jax~ Just done the toothcleaning etc & thought better check if I swiched off .... which I had not. Great to see you. Can I borrow your lightbulb savant man for a day? I know how to do the old fasioned ones. Stoney's surfing dogs video was a highlight of my day too. Duvet is calling. Night night.

August 13, 2011 8:51 PM
Bisa-avatar 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 JaxZ said...

Yes you can. And Darling He's going to bed in Manchester right now, just down the road from you so if I'd only known! xxoo

August 13, 2011 9:19 PM
Bisa-avatar 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 JaxZ said...

Nos Da Village. It's been a long day. Nice ending after a pause here. I'll drift off hearing Tommy, kicked back chillin and croonin with friends.

August 13, 2011 11:16 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

Wow, the group "W" bench.....and we can all join in when it comes around on the guitar again...you can get anything you want.........

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