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Leaving your Mark

September 23, 2010

It all started with the first flat surface.

Graffiti, from the Greek graphein "to write," is the name for images, political slogans, or basically anything you want to express, scratched, scrawled, painted or marked in any manner on property.

This urge to leave one's mark goes back at least to 30,000 BC, which makes it one of the oldest forms of communication, where it decorated caves and walls of ancient Rome.

The most famous of ancient graffiti dates back to the birth of Christianity.

Graffiti in Pompeii were preserved almost intact when Mt. Vesuvius erupted in 79 AD.

An excavation found this:

"We two dear men, friends forever, were here. If you want to know our names, they are Gaius and Aulus."

Art?

Anyone who has seen these remarkable sidewalk sketches or perused "Graffiti World," a compilation of street art from five continents, couldn't call it anything less.

Right now, Brazil's President Lula da Silva, who inaugurated the world's largest graffiti "canvass" at over 37,000 square feet, is spreading the word.

He's got a group of International artists working on a São Paulo highway using street art to fight for children's and teenager's rights.

"Maybe that's why it's an art form," one of the artist's said, "Because after 40 years starting in New York and everything, it still gets people upset."

The modern movement started in the New York Subway system in the 70s.

The trains were desecrated, adorned, vandalized, revitalized, saved, ruined, beautified, criminalized, whatever you want to call it, by a group of artists, mostly from violent backgrounds, whose weapons were spray cans.

Old school New York graffiti it's called, and the artists, Dondi, Skeme, Futura, Lady Pink, Zephyr, Jean-Michel Basquiat and Keith Haring live on in underground circles.

It was a violent time and Martha Cooper and Henry Chalfant's book "Subway Art" was one of the first to focus on graffiti as an art form.

Maybe Brazil has the right idea.

As always, you are free to leave your mark here.

J. Peterman

 

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September 23, 2010 12:02 AM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

KILROY  WAS  HERE .......

September 23, 2010 12:14 AM
800 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Michael said...

I love watching trains go by, covered with their traveling art shows.

September 23, 2010 12:24 AM
10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoHr-1 House Guest said...

I didn't know that I had stress walking a pack of dogs along a trail through the grouse woods with an old friend, Gene, until we found out that the woman who shot me was out of the country for the rest of the year. It was a surprising  load off.
Un graffito favorito - A stencil of Lincoln in profile with the paraphrase;
"A house didvided    is a condo"

September 23, 2010 1:22 AM
13091 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 janej78 said...

When my son was 15 or 16, he was commissioned to do a mural on a wall of a local avant garde art gallery,"The Abattoir".  The wall was down the side of the building which was along a narrow walkway. Some patrons of a hair salon in the row of shops on the block objected to the mural because they said they were afraid to walk past it. It was bold, done in graffiti style. Of course, I thought it was wonderful. The local news came out to interview my son, show the mural and get opinions from other merchants, customers and passersby. The overwhelming response was terific and in favor of the work of art staying on the wall. Alas, the owner of the block of buildings decided to side with the skittish patrons and had the mural painted over. Interestingly, that salon closed a few months later and I can only imagine what those patrons must have thought when a tattoo parlor opened in the same spot as the salon.
 
I had to go with my son to buy the spray paint as it was illegal to sell it to anyone under the age of 18. He's ambidextrous and does most of his drawing with his left hand, but does his spray painting with his right. As a youing child he was drawing all the time and just switched hands when one hand got tired. I can read some graffiti, but some I can't even begin to decipher. I don't know how, but young people seem to be able to read all of it....and I've seen a lot up close and personal and I still can't read half of it.
 
Now tagging is another thing all together. I don't care for tagging which seems to be done anywhere without regard to personal property. Tagging is just someone signing their name saying, I was here.

September 23, 2010 1:44 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

They are modern runes, left by the spirits before they are turned into mere consumers and conformists. Imagine the first graffiti artists,now,yelling "get off my lawn"....tragic

September 23, 2010 1:51 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

One of the first 'gang' signs I remember, was writ large on the side of a building, it said  LATIN EAGLES and because it was so obvious,it invited a response,(from the local boys in blue,goes the story)  They changed it,in the middle of the night,to: EATIN BAGLES (tho spelled wrong, it disarmed the gang sign )and that started the game....

September 23, 2010 1:53 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

there is cave art,I believe,over 65,000 years old, depicting animals

September 23, 2010 2:32 AM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

RY:  Like the fellow in Bahston that changed the caveat on the Construction Site Fence from,  POST  NO  BILLS  to Boston Pills ...
 
He was Shop Steward for Bagel Bakers Local 284 .......

September 23, 2010 3:22 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Who did that graffiti on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel?
janej78~ I enjoy good graffiti - tagging is just boring.
My parents wisely painted the lower areas of our bedroom walls with blackboard paint & provided us with coloured chalks. It was made very clear that random decorating of any other walls carried the death penalty.
I haven't seen a pavement artist working with chalks for years - some of them are so clever. There must be pics on the web of their work.
Toilet graffiti used to be witty, but these days I come out of a public loo feeling a bit disappointed.
Memorable examples:-
Written high on wall of Gents- If you can read this you are peeing on your shoes.
In Ladies: Stand up and pee like a man!
Don't drop matches in the pan, the crabs in here can pole-vault
In the UK, the doors on public WC's required a penny in the lock to open them. The phrase "spend a penny" is still a coy eupemisim for having a pee. Gents got a free pee, with the benefit of urinals & a classic on the wall of the Gents WC's was: Here I sit, broken hearted, spent a penny & only farted.
 

September 23, 2010 6:42 AM
Image 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

For a Good Time, Call...

September 23, 2010 7:32 AM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Somebody had to be the first to employ that baked dough, rounded, leaning back and puffy graphic style that seems to dominate messages on trains, buildings and over passes the world over, If he is known (maybe by a rap sheet), he must be like a god.

hazel ~
You seem quite familiar with men's rooms.

I admired an extraordinarily magnificent display high up a black cliff only to have it pointed out that it was a gay message board of some kind. Couldn't see that.

September 23, 2010 7:36 AM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

Tommy -- that used to be mine, a friend even gave me a set of glasses with that etched into them.  but now, alas, age.....................I've scratched out "good" and put "fair".

September 23, 2010 7:44 AM
Here_slooking 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Spring Fragrance said...

Graffiti is strongest where pop culture meets social commentary and critical thinking, flaunted by revolutionaries of thought and spray

And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon God they made.
And the sign flashed out it's warning,
In the words that it was forming.
And the sign said,


"the words of the prophets
Are written on the subway walls
And tenement halls."


And whisper'd in the sounds of silence"


(Simon & Garfunkel)


 


Or this......


 


There's a war raging within me


the likes of a subway battle I could not win
there is a dark tunnel within me
with tracks snaking endlessly into the dark
there before god I walk into to destiny
some day here they'll find the rest of me
if only time was taken not taken away
they would understand the reasons I spray.
(mare 139 - 1997)

September 23, 2010 7:54 AM
28471 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Lynn830 said...

I was in New York City at the height of the graffiti mess on the subway.  It looked as though every square inch that could be painted was, and the layers were multiple - six, eight?  The problem I had with it was that nothing was legible.  The scrawls were not letters in any language I could see; there were no pictures.  Perhaps these "runes" had meaning to someone; to me they were a nerve jangling jumble.  On the other hand, much in the vein janej78 wrote, I have seen graffiti-style murals that were incredible works of art.  There is one near Marymount University, the wall by the sidewalk under an overpass.  It is close to 100 feet long, and was done by the university students on invitation.  And there are similar works in Washington, DC that cover an entire end of a building.
I am also reminded of wall graffiti, carefully done on the blunt end of row houses in Belfast, that conveyed their message of hate and defiance all too well.  This was a Protestant area and the artists conveyed the sentiments of the Red Hand of Ulster.  It was the most unsettling thing I have ever seen.  There is a brick wall nearby that separates that area from an Irish Catholic area.  The wall has been extended upward to a height of forty feet so they can't throw bottles at each other.  I'll post some pictures.
Graffiti well done is art; it communicates.  Poorly done it only adds to the tension of urban living and is a menace.

September 23, 2010 8:08 AM
3905 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 cuukoo1 said...

good morning all !  leave your mark today on someone's heart and put a big smile inside of it.  have a wonderful graffiti filled day.  g

September 23, 2010 8:18 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

Janej78:   "Tagging"  is  done  by  street  gang  members  to  mark  their  territory,  make  a  political  statement,  and  sometimes  it  is  done  as  a  challenge  to  rival  gang  members.    It  is  considered  an  offense  punishable  by  death  to  enter  another  gang's  territory,  especially  if  profiteering  is  the  motive  (selling  drugs  of  somebody  else's  corner).   Police  and  lawyers  have  seminars  to  teach  professionals  how  to  identify  gang  logos  &  messages.....

September 23, 2010 8:21 AM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


H.G.
Hope you guys are wearing orange. She wasn't the only person in the U.P. with a shotgun.
Hunting in a large group, too large, a son-in-law of my brother and I strayed away for a little break. I heard the soft thunder of a rising grouse and looked to see it angling just barely over my head.
I'll never forget the relief in seeing him smiling with his barrel down.

September 23, 2010 8:21 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Stoney~ the men's rooms tales were told to me by men.
I just woke up enough to check out the top of page & yes inedeed, the orange bit that says "remarkable sidewalk sketches" is excellent.
Lynn~ Belfast graffiti - a provocative celebration of hatred.
The exuberant art-work of a spray-can painter who can't afford a studio or a big canvas is sometimes a gift to the community, other times, it's offensive.
 

September 23, 2010 8:30 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

Police  see  taking  on  antisocial  behavior  as  beneath  them,  not  "real"  police  work.   Taggers  know  that,  and  keep  chugging  along  with   impunity.

September 23, 2010 8:36 AM
Image 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Andy- Mine is- For a typical time, call...  As a kid, the lesson was when you painted a heatfelt piece for the world to see on an Interstate bridge and proclaimed to the world that you loved someone only to find out that "forever" meant a week or two at best, but the images told the world a different story. Perhaps we should consider digital grafitti for the fast paced current culture of "change". 

September 23, 2010 9:00 AM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

There used to be a restaurant in Maryland called "G. D. Graffiti's".  Since it was the owner's name, he created the downstairs area, where the restrooms were, as a play on his name and encouraged graffiti -- there was an old car parked there (how he got it there, who knows -- I guess he turned left at the stairs) that was also full of graffiti.  It was such a fun place that at least one of my kids chose it for their birthday with friends -- the rest of the restaurant was in the Al Capone mode with the waiters dressed as mobsters and presenting a violin case where the dessert menu was hidden.
 
Now, I don't think we would get the philosphic sayings of yesterday; now we would get the digital age shorthand and, if we could decipher it, find that it's really filthy.
 

September 23, 2010 9:01 AM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

cuukoo - good to see you again and what a pleasant post -- thank you

September 23, 2010 9:19 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

On the Children's menu in a place I worked as a student were Alphabet Potato Fries. I'd ask the waiter/waitress to find out the children's names & cook up their meal so their name was spelled out round the edge of their plate. A family with 3 children came in & one of them was very unruly. His brothers got plates with their names in fries, he got BEHAVE. Fortunateley, the parents were amused.

September 23, 2010 9:20 AM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


A doctor told us the story of an old priest in his family a, Father Flanagan - there are no bad boys kind of a guy who, when they sprayed over a mural of religious icons that he had looked out on every morning, went shopping for a rifle with a scope.
It all depends on whose ox is being gored I guess.

September 23, 2010 9:30 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Andy~ I'm mystified by txt spk & those icons made from the keyboard. If I was an English teacher I'd get my own back by making the kids read Chaucer.

September 23, 2010 9:38 AM
1521 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 Shandonista said...

If spray paint cans were the weapons of gangs in the past, then I wholeheartedly support a return to the weapons of old.  Sure beats the ones they use now.
 
 

September 23, 2010 10:06 AM
Image 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

I think the term grafitti itself means to scratch. Perhaps at the surface of what it means to be alive...here...now. Pollock would say "It doesn't make much difference how the paint is put
on as long as something has been said. Technique is just a means of
arriving at a statement."

September 23, 2010 10:24 AM
10photoviewsFirst-comFirst-photoHr-1 uliggam said...

The real genius is Banksy, who started doing grafitti in Bristol, UK in the 1990s. He is a brilliant artist who now has an international reputation and has expanded into other aspects of art as well. http://www.banksy.co.uk

September 23, 2010 10:35 AM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


uliggam ~

Wow. I'd like to see somebody try to top that.
Wonderful post.

September 23, 2010 10:59 AM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


OT
That damned housepecker had me getting out of my chair even when he was working on the spruce tree. Didn't want to kill him so I got one of those suet/seed blocks out of the freezer and hung it out. Wish that I had thought of it weeks ago.
All is quiet and there are three or four of them feeding at it.
Still, there are holes in the siding to be dealt with.

September 23, 2010 11:09 AM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

This is not only  NATIONAL ICE CREAM CONE DAY  ... but to Honor our Captain, it seems that  NEPTUNE DAY  has fallen upon this date as well .......
 
Somewhere, in either or both of these, there must be an excuse to celebrate !!!
 
 
Let Us Be At It !!!

September 23, 2010 11:26 AM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

Ivan -- Ice Cream Day --- mmmmmmm --- when I'm dieting -- which is almost always, except when I'm not -- I've actually had dreams about ice cream

September 23, 2010 11:31 AM
Image 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

tommygram for uliggam- The Chimps rock (stop) site is intriguing (stop) Mahalo 

September 23, 2010 11:31 AM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

Hazel - sometimes I can figure text speak out, but hardly ever the icons -- aside from the happy faces -- what a dweeb .....
 
What is most appalling to me is the lack of proper English amongst the young.  How will they ever get a job?  Things like:  "Harry and my's friend...", not knowing the difference between "their" "there" "they're", spelling mistakes even with spellcheck (which, Mr. Peterman I do wish you had here).  There is a young lady in my husband's office who spells everything exactly the way she speaks with some startling results....the gentleman for whom she works now does his own letters.

September 23, 2010 11:32 AM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

Stoney -- we had that one year; drove me crazy.  Now I've lost my hearing, not sure if they're still here or not :).

September 23, 2010 12:05 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

ANDY:  Diets do NOT work ...  Stops denying yourself and enjoy what you want and what makes you happy .......  It is unfortunate that almost everything humans really like is Carbohydrate ... Just severely limit Carbs, walk about a half dozen Laps around the block every evening after Supper, and most of all, STOP worrying about it ... Stop counting calories, because they don't matter ... Calories are what keeps the Body at 98.6 degrees, so that it operates the way it is supposed to ... the whole purpose of movement is to generate heat ...  as in, "Hey 98.6 its Good to see you back again ..." 
 
Premium Ice Creams do contain a lot of Flour ... thats why they freeze so hard and stay frozen longer than Ice Milk or Mellorine (words you probably haven't heard in fifty years) The F;our soaks up water and turns to Ice in the Freezer ...  When you get in the mood for Ice Cream, have some ... without worrying about it ... the Worry does your body more harm than the Sugar in the Ice Cream ... Have a portion sufficient to satisfy you, and go on ... OR, when you're craving, Glut yourself on the stuff, and then it will be a longer while before you think about it again ...  Follow up with some strong, Black Coffee, and/or a Shot-Glass full of Apple Cider Vinegar ... Sugar is a Base, and a little extra Acid will help Balance your Ph again ...
 
My weight hasn't changed five pounds one way or the other in the last fifty years ... my shape has changed, for a myriad of reasons, but my weight is still about 210 pounds ... I have always had a High Fat Diet, but I drink my Wine, have a Shot-Glass full of Apple Cider Vinegar every day (after my first meal of the day) and I just don't worry about it ... My BP is 110/60, Blood Sugar about 140, Cholesterol is 102, and Triglycerides under 80 ... Worrying about those numbers only pushes them up ... Enjopy yourself, and just make up your mind that you are not going to LET things get to you, and eat slowly, quit eating when you are no longer hungry, and walk those few Laps every nite ... But Trust me, the Worry is the Biggest Killer ....... 

September 23, 2010 12:14 PM
28471 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Lynn830 said...

It occurs to me that the Paleolithic "graffiti" on various caves really is not the same as modern graffiti - it was the only way people had to do written communication.  If you go into New Grange, the Irish site from 2500 BC, the symbols carved into the wall look quite profound.  The guide, when I was there, pointed out the carving of a springtime fern on a post, but said they couldn't figure out what it meant.  In America, folks went out into the woods (and still do) in very early spring to find fiddlehead ferns - the first growth of ferns, just coming up from the ground, with the leaves small and curled so it looks like the end of a violin.  These were the first edible greens of spring and were hungrily awaited.  I suggested that the fern carving was a symbol of awaiting spring, appropriate since New Grange was built so the sun shone down the tunnel entrance at the Winter Solstice.
Washington had a famous graffiti artist in 2004 and 2005 who went by "Borf" and was quite good.  He was eventually arrested and ceased his art.  He was sentenced to 30 days in jail, $12,000 restitution and 200 hours of community service - cleaning up graffiti

September 23, 2010 1:37 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

Basquiat, one of my favorite movies. It had everybody in it, Dennis Hopper, Gary Oldman, Christopher Walken, David Bowie to name a few.  I'd bet siskill and ebert
panned it. 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeTT9XYesnw

September 23, 2010 1:40 PM
1521 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 Shandonista said...

From today's Writer's Almanac, with thoughts of yesterday's topic.  I really like the Hawthorne quote.

Today is the first day of fall, the autumnal equinox, where the sun is directly above the equator and the length of day and night are nearly equal. The autumnal equinox occurred early this morning at 3:09 UTC, Coordinated Universal Time. But here in America, the equinox occurred last night, at 11:09 on the East Coast.


On this day in 1852, 24-year-old Tolstoy (books by this author) wrote in his diary: "Went for a ride with the dogs, had a dull time, slept, killed a pheasant, considered the scheme of my novel, and began to write the same. Must make an effort to overcome indolence."


Nathaniel Hawthorne (books by this author) said, "I cannot endure to waste anything so precious as autumnal sunshine by staying in the house."

September 23, 2010 1:50 PM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Christopher Walken: a bad dream waiting to happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B82tuNuICTc

September 23, 2010 1:59 PM
Img_5428-1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Capt Neptune said...

Jalopkin: Greetings and happy Neptune day!?? Would have never known. "

September 23, 2010 2:17 PM
Img_5428-1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Capt Neptune said...

JALOPKIN: Greetings, happy Neptune day! I would have never known.

September 23, 2010 2:25 PM
Image 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

SNL- Christropher Walken as Bruce Dickenson and Will Ferrell on Cowbell. Te Return of Blue Oyster Cult. His Best work. More Cowbell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

September 23, 2010 2:30 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

Oh Captain, My Captain ... The Day is Just Begun
 
And Once The Beer is Salted, the Preparatio's done .......
 
Some Port I hear,  Blended Bell's so Near, with Mixologists Consulting
 
While Bloodshot Eyes Steer Steady Feel, of a Bar-Rail Low and Shining
 
Oh My God, ... Oh My Head ... For Sleep I Am So Pining ...
 
If I Wake Up, and Am Not Dead, I Promise No More Whining ...

September 23, 2010 2:34 PM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

Ivan - I did stop worrying about diets and you know, my weight is staying the same.
 
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Everyone -- off subject but of special interest to me:

Friday is World Cancer Day and in memory of our moms, dads, brothers and sisters, friends and loved ones of whom there are so many I'm asking that you all take a minute to say a little prayer for a cure to be found for this dread disease.  This year has been one with too many diagnoses too close to home.    Thank you.

September 23, 2010 2:38 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Leave it to Ivan to come up with the perfect comment...how do you do it my friend?  I don't want to know, it's your magic to perform, and ours to enjoy.

September 23, 2010 2:40 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Walken is one of those creepy guys who manage to get so creepy, I've got to figure it's not acting, it's organic.

September 23, 2010 2:43 PM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

uliggam -- perfect! It looks like a poster that Norman Rockwell would have done...you win today.
 
Stoney -- yet Christoper Walken did that fabulous dance the video of which was rarely on -- but so out of character and just great......still creepy though  :)

September 23, 2010 2:59 PM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

uliggam -- I followed through to the rest of the pictures on that site; wow!

September 23, 2010 3:00 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

ANDY:  GOOD  ON  YOU !!!  Keep up the Good Work, and Enjoy yourself !!!
 
 
PARK4: Even a blind Hog finds an acorn every now and then .......

September 23, 2010 3:04 PM
28471 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Lynn830 said...

Jalopkin - I think stress (so frequently self-induced) is one of the real biggest killers.  Isn't it the case that cancer can shows up more in people undergoing very high stress?  I really think that's what started it in my father - stress as a psychogenesis.
Shandonista - I really like the Hawthorne quote too.  Even if I am inside with the air conditioning because we are in a three-day heat wave in Washington.
I will celebrate the autumnal inception with a cup of Lapsan Souchong tea, my current favorite for an afternoon drink.  I was thinking that it is slightly disjointed with people in the community being at all corners of the world.  It is mid-afternoon here and middle of the night in Asia.  And well into evening in Europe.  The midnight changeover in topic (pretty punctually done) is really early morning in Europe.  Ah well, sweet dreams to our friends in the Orient, Australia and New Zealand. 

September 23, 2010 3:11 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

PAOLOS:  Ebert will pan anything with a cast full of psychotics who are of more Questionable Gender than he .......
 
The creepiness is just, there ... with all those people ... and I don't think they are really Acting ... rather, just being themselves ... Of course, I have always suspected that Dennis Hopper was really just a Good Ol' Boy, who worked at being Hippiefied, just to grind everybody's ass .......

September 23, 2010 4:47 PM
Image 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Mr. Peterman, the Merchant Poet, has proven through good times and bad, that a free society can have successful businesses that enhance the life experience. I have devoted my life to creative business ventures and have met thousands of small business owners around the world who have proven that entrepreneurs make the world go round making opportunities for millions to have a better life.   At the UN today, we allow a fanatical man to stand before the world on our soil at our expense and insult us by saying that our system is doomed to failure and is the cause of world poverty. Meanwhile holding innocent people hostage. He wants a one world religion he says, and I wonder what that would look like. Gee Whiz! I pick and choose who comes into my house and if they blatantly insult me, they can hit the door and will not be asked back again. This is a joke.   I want to go out and rent a plane and skywrite across the azure pallette my own graffiti- SCREW YOU!    
  

September 23, 2010 4:48 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 George Hall said...

I have been a closet fan of you all since Peterman's Eye was born. I do admire the wisdom, poetry, diversity, etc., etc., etc.
 
As the southern girl was overheard to say after her horse had won the Kentucky Derby.." Its enough to restowah (yes, three syllables) one's faith in humanity, isn't it."
 
Classy restroom graffiti reprised...
 
From the women's in Milwaukee:
 
  She offered her honor,
  He honored her offer
  And for the rest of the night
  He was on her and off her.
 
From the men's in Dallas GA:
 
   Don't buy the chewing gum out of this machine.
   Its tough and besides that, it tastes rubbery, et al.   

more on the honor roll
September 23, 2010 5:04 PM
Image 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

George- Former Closet Fan- Good debut- Yep, the way those Southern women tilt their head as those pretty lips form those extended syllables is most bodacious.BTW I keep my best stash in my office closet and have often referred to myself as a closet drinker.

September 23, 2010 5:14 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

867-5309.............

September 23, 2010 5:24 PM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Hi, it's Jenny! I'm not able to get the phone right now.
You know what to do.

September 23, 2010 5:29 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

TommyTypical:  don't it just make your toes curl?  It makes my blue eyes brown...I'm with ya , guy.  When you rent that plane to skywrite SCREWYOU, I'd be proud to be with you.One world religion...uh huh.  That's the problem I have with "why can't we all get along." Our "tastes" aren't the same, is why.

September 23, 2010 5:31 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

hudson3-2700

September 23, 2010 5:31 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Hello George.  Nice to meet you.

September 23, 2010 5:44 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

I have just returned from dinner with a large group
of friends in the little Hessian village of Seligenstadt.  We ate at a plaza
restaurant outside the walls of a Benedictine monestary.  The walls are free of
graffiti as walls should be.  Not that someone should not be allowed to express
their opinion or decorate walls, but that everyone should respect another's
property and if one must express oneself, then express oneself on one's own damm
wall. 
 
The moon shone full over the basilica spires, just
as it had shone last night full out the starboard window as we crossed the
Atlantic, with Jupiter in the background as if projecting the image of the moon
onto the night sky.
 
I say let the stars and planets paint the night sky
and the rest be mute who cannot match the beauty.

September 23, 2010 6:06 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

George, that is a long haul from Milwaukee to
Dallas, Georgia.  There aren't too many of us who can say that we have been
there, Dallas Georgia not Milwaukee.  Although I can say that I know the man who
stocked that gum machine for oh many years. 
 
Ivan, I don't know that Bowie was acting
in Basquiat but I am certain that Dennis Hopper was acting (he played a German
art collector) and Courtney Love played herself
quite well in the flick. 
 
Stoney in case you need to get in touch with
George...
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg-TqEFYcfM
 
 
I am done for the day.  Goodnight all.

September 23, 2010 6:07 PM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


I'd like some of what paolos is having please.

Park
Always been an Empire man meself.

September 23, 2010 7:36 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Lynn830~ It's great that people from all over the world, in different time zones, with different perspectives on the topic of the day can join the village. Nice to hear Paolos abroad.
George Hall~ It must be hot & stuffy in that closet, c'mon out.
Stoney~ I have a book of cat cartoons, one shows a restaurant scene, but all the customers & waiters are cats. An elegant siamese cat at one table is licking her parts (as cats do)  & the cat at the next table is saying to the waiter "I'll have some of what she's having." Every time I hear somebody say that, this stupid image pops into my head, so thanks for that.
ulligam~ Banksy is best! Brilliant post - thanks,
Yesterday, I mentioned learning Welsh by post-it stickers, at the time, I was getting around to re-painting the bathroom & as a temporary measure, I got a felt-tip pen and drew on the wall by the bath tub a life-size image of me in the bath, then wrote all the Welsh words for body parts with arrows pointing to said parts. At the time, I had a litter of pedigree kittens for sale, so strangers were coming to the house & OMG they'd ask to use the bathroom. It was interesting to be sat drinking tea with the spouse & watch their reaction to laughter emanating from the bathroom. Three people asked permission to photograph it! So that was my contribution to graffiti.
 

September 23, 2010 7:51 PM
28471 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Lynn830 said...

Our contribution is much more modest and subdued.  We have a five year old grandson who lives in here in Arlington and comes over almost every weekend.  We have a wooden deck attached to the house and a box of the big sidewalk chalks.  He can do anything he wants on the deck - and does.  A rain or two washes it all away, leaving a clean slate (clearing the decks?) to use again.

September 23, 2010 8:06 PM
Img_5785 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

HU3-2700........ PARK4, you lookin' to get your carpets cleaned and graced with the kiss of beauty??

September 23, 2010 8:09 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

JUDSON 9-7000

September 23, 2010 8:12 PM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


An anonymous woman, Cheryl Loney, made some cruelly funny video following a severely sprayed trailer around and telling confused observers that it all made sense looked at upside down. I hate her.

hazel ~
The important question is did you photograph your drawing?

September 23, 2010 8:21 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Stoney~ I don't do photos, I rely on words & your imagination.

September 23, 2010 8:21 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

I'm waiting to get a wake up moon post from CUUKOO & I'm not going quietly until it appears............I'm w/ you TT & PARK............. really amazing........ we could be the only country where people can openly visit & openly insult and taunt us......................you have to say "Serenity now", because otherwise thinking about it will make you lose it...........

September 23, 2010 8:21 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

Ha STONEY.......... you got it!!!!!!!!!!!!

September 23, 2010 8:57 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Off topic - I'm wondering why people dip their toes in the water & vanish ... is the village too villagey & unwelcoming? I don't know, gobby me just dived in. Well past bed-time this side of the water. I'd like to think that the riders of the Thesbian Train will be on the platform early with a couple of cans of spray paint each & do some neat graffiti. Nobody has mentioned food today, so I'm sending a cauldron of leek & potato soup with cheezy toasted garlic bread. And anyboby who won't eat up gets to sit on the naughty chair.

September 23, 2010 9:06 PM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...

   
- the end of the line

September 23, 2010 9:16 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

HAZEL..........please don't make us take a government dictated warm and fuzzy, we're all beautiful on the inside, kumbiyah group sing along and circle jerk w/ warm apple cider & donuts afterwards......... I could not take it.................it's like life........... decide what works for you, enjoy, don't enjoy, but it is up to the individual.
 
That being said......... your comment is out there for people to pontificate on........

September 23, 2010 10:06 PM
Img_5785 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

Hazel, I love potato leek soup....... It'll be just right with the surf-n-turf, donuts, and bebe's warm apple cider..... and yes....... dunking your donuts is not only permissible, in fact it may be mandatory but don't dunk it for too long or it'll turn to sludge at the bottom of the cup.... which ain't too be neither.

September 23, 2010 10:19 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

haze, i often joke that i make the world's best potato leek soup.

claim i use an old secret family recipe.

my wife keeps asking where I keep this secret family.

anyhow, as cooler weather comes, I will be making more soup of all kinds.

soup, crusty bread and wine.

now that's the ticket.

September 23, 2010 10:27 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

I am so crushed..........my husband told me, when asked, that the whole circle jerk thing is mostly an urban myth............one more taboo form of bonding not a reality............I guess it goes along w/ the urban myth of girls having slumber parties where lingerie & feathers from pillow fights fly..................I'll never tell..........
 
LOTLOT.......... you really can't beat a great soup, crusty bread, & wine...........it's like Cary Grant.... a classic you just want to eat all up...........

September 23, 2010 11:06 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

Biggest Circle-Jerk ever is Congress .......

September 23, 2010 11:38 PM
13091 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 janej78 said...

I love the Circle Jerks. They rocked "Repo Man".
 
When my son was around 10, I let him paint one wall in his room. I told him he could do whatever he wanted with that one wall. I think it helped divert him from wanting to go out and leave his mark on public structures and blank walls. That and going to work at 14 kept him busy.
 
George Hall, the NY campus of the school I went to had two houses on the property. One was named Howie Hall after a kid who died there and the other house was named after one of the staff...George Hall. Probably a somewhat common name, so I don't suppose it was you.

September 24, 2010 12:12 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

the two scariest  graffitti I have ever seen was between two rival gangs..R    and  D   a fight to the death,a fight for turf, a fight for the sake of a fight,and boy, do they throw money at each other...like weapons

September 24, 2010 12:14 AM
Img_5785 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

bebe.....I thought that number sounded familiar..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBHJqtgo8RA

September 24, 2010 4:39 PM
13091 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 janej78 said...

uliggam, have you seen "Exit Throught the Gift Shop" directed by Bansky?

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