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Aesop said, “Appearances are often deceiving."

That utterance morphed into:

“You can’t judge a book by its cover.”

(Although nobody knows who said it.)

Noted contrarian Oscar Wilde, recently embraced by the Vatican, just turned it around:

“It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances.”

Maxims or aphorisms aren't as much written, as rewritten.

In the “World in a Phrase," James Geary makes the point that in ancient times, when few could read and write, the culture of the world was oral. A wise saying was passed on down the generational line until it became an aphorism.

Anyone wanting to write or rewrite a few should keep in mind the basic rules:

Keep it short, definitive and personal. It should have a twist, some hidden meaning or surprise. And it must be philosophical, forcing you to contemplate how universal truths are hidden in the particulars of daily life.

Buddha, still, is one the best quotes:

“A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker.”

Bernard Baruch, quite a few years later, just made it more succinct:

“Successful people all do more listening than talking.” 

Motto: "If we steal thoughts from the moderns, it will be cried down as plagiarism; if from the ancients, it will be cried up as erudition."

I believe that was Charles Caleb Colton.

This from Ayn Rand, who, sort of admits, as a "genius," she stole this thought, and others, from someone else:

“A genius is an intellectual scavenger and a greedy hoarder of the ideas which rightfully belong to society, from which he (or she) stole them.” 

Abraham Lincoln said: "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

Did he get it from George Eliot who said:

“Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”

Or Benjamin Franklin?

“It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. "

Mark Twain just made it folksier:

"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. "

All succeeding in claiming it for posterity.

Who said it first doesn't seem to matter anymore.

As long as you say it.

A point, I'm sure, somebody has made before.

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J. Peterman

 

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October 26, 2012 12:06 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

Better to not hit "SEND",and not be a fool. (without spell check).

October 26, 2012 12:30 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

Don’t spend time polishing your halo.

Spend your time instead looking out for others.

Do that and your halo surely will shine through.

October 26, 2012 12:42 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

I'm going to improve on my previous statement; Bert~according to the news programs I am watching on the TeeVee machine over in the corner, Ohio is the State that will pick the next one we collectivly blame~and it my come down to just ONE vote~ Am I making myself PeRfEcTLy ClEaR BERT? IT MIGHT BE YOUR FAULT

October 26, 2012 1:01 AM
P1010179 Com-100First-comFirst-reviewHr-1 S. A. J. Johnson said...

I'll vote (but not in Ohio, so who cares), but I like the late, great George Carlin's take. In summary, he said that he never votes. That way, he can complain about the idiots that we elect.
He was extremely thoughtful about the words he used, even the ones that could curdle milk. I have a series of tracks from him discussing grammar and usage that I ask my students to listen to.

October 26, 2012 2:04 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

CARLIN FOR SAINTHOOD

October 26, 2012 7:22 AM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

Good Morning All - and RY you've got me chuckling early this morning again. 

Ah Mr. P,  by repeating and repeating (and repeating) that one aphorism relative to keeping silent, were you sending us a message?

As well, RY, thanks for letting us know who to blame, should we bother voting?

St. George Carlin.....hmmmmm.  We saw him perform live in a local theater in the round, this was in his pharmaceutical days.  He would keep losing track of his dialogue.  In many ways he was brilliant, but a real testament to what abuse of drugs will do.

October 26, 2012 10:01 AM
10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Marypjb said...

Sometimes the chilis burn all the way through.

October 26, 2012 10:04 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

Marypjb~that may be by design to save trees...the little 'jiggle dance' might help air dry, and save paper;ergo,trees

October 26, 2012 10:05 AM
Bwme 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 nachista said...

In my college days we had a photo professor who always like to point out in our class critiques how every photo on the wall was "just like" some famous photo that had come long before us baby photogs every picked up a camera.  And he would then break out a book or a magazine and show us that we had unknowingly copied someone else's composition. His point in this was not to call us plagarists, but to show us the similarity of human thought and expression.  He didn't want us to copy but to take those themes and ideas and make them our own and in that make them fresh and pertinent to a new generation.

October 26, 2012 10:14 AM
10041_445991248814972_692962064_n Com-100First-comHr-1 The Giraffe said...

Silence is Golden sometimes.

October 26, 2012 10:21 AM
10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Marypjb said...

RY: "Jiggle dance?" Not a chance... just stillness, waiting for the end.  And maybe some of those "cooling towelettes."  :)

October 26, 2012 10:44 AM
Image 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Life's a big salad bar. It's the quality of the writer/poet to pour on the dressing. And as Solomon would say about originality if he was a cowboy "ain't nuttin new under the sun". I quote misquote forget who said what everyday. My libertarian leanings have me not liking intellectual property rights much. Everyone wants to own and sue over words logos little 3 chord riffs and every la la la I love you ever said sung or written. Now this bullshit about a president saying bullshit. Gimme a break. Buy any of my stuff and do with it what you want...it's great for firepit kindling.

October 26, 2012 10:59 AM
270752_10150312062190804_7175723_n 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Graygoose said...

Good mornin' y'all! Wish I could stay and chat awhile...the wind is howling outside and my stock is hungry, so I must brave the cold weather. I'm glad to see JP has included another gorgeous Irish sweater in the Owner's Manual #100! Santa, you cannot go wrong with this sweater! The German slippers are also a homerun...

October 26, 2012 11:07 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

J.Peterman- the only thing besides overeating to make you need bigger drawers..(like for that sweater)   hahaha

October 26, 2012 11:17 AM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

Confucious say He who opens mouth and shovel in food, a happy man.Maybe it was Hop Sing or Hoss Cartwright.

October 26, 2012 11:24 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Driving along a rural Welsh road, a section of grass verge had been dug over and re-seeded. In fact, a little bright green fuzz was already emerging. I was on my way home from 'doing' somebody's garden and knew that in the big sack of garden 'rubbish' there were Welsh Poppy seedheads (Mecanopsis Cambrica) So I pulled up (on the road) put on my hazzard lights and scattered said seeds among the grass. The thing that attracted me in the first place was a hand painted sign that said NO STOPPING ON THE VERGE and I thought "There's a maxim to live by." I was on the verge of driving straight past. My sudden impulse to plant the seeds was richly rewarded for many years after by a dancing display of these cheerful yellow poppies waving to me whenever I drove down that way They self-seed so they will be there forever.
 

October 26, 2012 11:25 AM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

T ~ I like the way you think.  Spread the word, if it's good word. Speaking of...Miss Graygoose, how is that melody coming along?  I have tried every known style of music and dammit if it doesn't fit them all. You can rap it, folk sing it, country it, gregorian chant it, rock it and even Pavarotti those lyrics into an operatic aria. I can't wait to hear what you've done. 

October 26, 2012 12:15 PM
Bwme 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 nachista said...

OT, I am having some of my nieces and nephews over for a movie night tonight.  I'm trying to decide what movies to watch.  The kids range in age from 4 to 19.  I own E.T., Spaced Invaders, Corpse Bride, Practical Magic, and Hocus Pocus.  But we've seen all of those before, does anyone have any suggestions for Halloween movies that are kid friendly but a little more off the beaten path? 
 
I am going to stop at the old local movie rental place on my lunch break, they have just about any movie you could want, even if about 75% of them are on VHS, which is ok since I'm a dinosaur and still own a vcr.

October 26, 2012 1:04 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

Bella Lagosi,as Dracula!!! All kids will thrill, and imitate, for years to come....BWAHAHAHAAHAHA

October 26, 2012 1:14 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

Miss Hazel ~ Your story reminds me of the road signs
along our highways where the road works authorities have planted wild
flowers.  The signs read Designated wild flower areas. I ask
myself, if these are truly wildflowers are they going to heed the signs and
stay in their restricted area?  Not if they are anything like me they
won't. No, ma'am. Not on your life.

 

Miss Nachista ~ They could watch the presidential
debates. That's some pretty scary stuff.

October 26, 2012 1:17 PM
Bwme 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 nachista said...

Paolos, I want to give them a fun scare, not bore them to death ;)
 
I posted a list of potential movie selections on my blog.  Now to narrow it down. 
 
http://nachista.blogspot.com/
 

October 26, 2012 1:38 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

When I was about 3 years old we lived on Foothill Road in Sacramento CA. (I had been carefully drilled to able to say my name & address so I always think of it that way). In our back yard we had some Loganberry bushes and I refused to try one.
No amount of cajoling would do. Finally my parents grabbed me and threw a loganberry in my mouth which of course turned screams into yumms. the phrase "Remember the loganberry" became the most used phrase in our family, and is actually on its 3rd generation now.

October 26, 2012 1:39 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

PAOLOS! Thanks for the 411 on the Sweepstakes--I had missed it!

October 26, 2012 1:41 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

East Coasters--Batten your hatches! I have heard complaints about overzealous "sky is fallling" weather folks...but I say, hey if they need to get a good storm now and then to report , let them have fun and possibly save some lives & property.

October 26, 2012 2:12 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

MisChiefDeb ~ There is usually some announcement that
goes out about the sweepstakes.  I didn't see one and just happened to
click on the tab and there it was.  Maybe Mr. P wants to see if we are
paying attention.  If there was an announcement, then I am obviously not
paying attention.

 

MissNachista ~ I still get a kick out of It's the
Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown.
One can never be too old for a good Peanuts flick. 

You must have missed the first debate, let me post it again
just in case.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlwilbVYvUg

 

October 26, 2012 2:40 PM
First-comHr-1 TimTam1958 said...

Given the World's Series is under way, let me offer my favourite base ball saying: "It's not what you hit  (i.e.: batting average), but when you hit."  GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

October 26, 2012 2:47 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Praise to the Lord, it's Friday evening. Two hours of bell ringing practaice at the church just over the road. I think the bit I'm hearing now is Learners Half Hour and the 'dings' and the 'dongs' have got all muddled up. Which reminds me of a Dad saying : "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition."

October 26, 2012 3:01 PM
Bwme 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 nachista said...

TimTam, I'm with you, Go Tigers!  It is a very orange world series this year.

October 26, 2012 5:08 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

Time to Wish You All a Fabulous Weekend !!!
 
Let No Life Be Lost, No Damage Too Great Occur from Inclement Weather ... Let the Winds Clear the Air and Blow the Couds Away, that the Sun Will Shine Thru, Upon You All ... Take Rest, Enjoy Family, Good Friends, Good Food, Good Wine ... and Play, people ....... Do Yourselves Some God and Just Let it All Hang Out (those of you who frequent Nudist Camps excepted ...)  Leave All Worry Behind, and All Work ... Monday Will Come, and You Can Get Back to The Grind .......
 
To the TRIBE:  A  GOOD  SABBATH !!!
 
I Wish You a Sabbath of Joy, a Sabbath of Peace, and a Sabbath of Good Rest !!!
 
" ... a New Song the Redeemed will sing unto Your Name ... They Will All Acknowledge You
and Proclaim Your Sovereignty sayimg,  The Lord Shall Reign Forever and Ever ..."
 
May Our Rest Be Pleasing Unto Him Who Brought Us Out Thus Far .......
 
 
Blessings Upon You All .......
 
 
IVAN

October 26, 2012 7:26 PM
Image 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Ivan- I am waving my fig leaf in celebration. Your blessings are a blessing. I spent one day at a nudist camp years ago and discovered bad naked, the indiscretion of insects, and the need for food service regs.

October 26, 2012 7:32 PM
Image 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

TT58
Tigers must hit.
Giants must stop pitching and hitting.

Al K is still my hero (favorite bat in LL) but SF has Large Momentum!

October 26, 2012 8:11 PM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

Ivan ~ As always, thank you and blessings to you and yours.

October 26, 2012 8:11 PM
270752_10150312062190804_7175723_n 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Graygoose said...

"shit happens"

October 26, 2012 8:45 PM
Image 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Listening to my favorite album Beach Boys Pet Sounds @ 35k' and catching up on today's posts while sipping a scotch whiskey. Maybe I was made for these times. When I listen to Eagles' Despetado I wonder. 50 degrees on the weather app but my ride home from the airport will be with the top back and listening to Hippie 94.5 in Smashville. Thanks y'all for your cogitational analysis. If Mr Wilde is a contrarian I'm in that club.

October 26, 2012 10:32 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

I am with MissJanej78 on this one. Giants are bringing out Vogelsong and Cain next.  The Tigers better bring some bats.  This is about the most exciting post season in a long time, from the playoffs to the Show.  There are players out there playing for the love more than the money. It almost reminds me of the good old days.

October 26, 2012 11:22 PM
13091 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 janej78 said...

nachista, I'm probably too late with my 2 cents...but I really liked The Witches with Anjelica Huston. It's a Roald Dahl story I read to my son when he was young, so it was special to me... just a wonderful adventure. I also liked Matilda, another Dahl story.

October 26, 2012 11:38 PM
13091 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 janej78 said...

Paolo, I agree. and what a game last night!  Sorry Tigers fans. Well, not really!

October 26, 2012 11:59 PM
10041_445991248814972_692962064_n Com-100First-comHr-1 The Giraffe said...

IVAN - Good Sabbath to you and yours.  May your week-end be pleasant.  Blessings to you.
 
To all of us currently in Sandy's harms way, may we weather the storm without too much damage.

October 27, 2012 12:53 AM
Img_5785 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

Jane, I'm rooting for your Giants. They have a lot of personality i think.

Honor Roll



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