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September 12, 2012
Listen up all you drinkers!
A new study, being reported in the Annals of Oncology, says that it's not just heavy drinkers who need to worry about the health implications of alcohol. The study indicates that even light drinking increases cancer risk.
The research - based on more than 150,000 men and women - found that light drinking increases the likelihood of cancer of the mouth, pharynx, oesophagus and breast, and estimates that light drinking is responsible for 34,000 worldwide deaths a year.
In the study, researchers from the University of Milan and other institutions in the US, France, Canada, Iran and Sweden, estimated that, in one year alone, 24,000 deaths from oesophageal cancer, 5,000 from oral and pharyngeal, and 5,000 from breast cancer, were due to light drinking. The study defined light drinking as up to one drink a day or 12.5g or less of ethanol.
One drink a day increased the risk of cancer of the oesophagus by almost a third, the study says. Low alcohol intake increased the risk of oral cavity and pharynx cancer by 17 per cent, and breast cancer in women by 5 per cent.
It's unclear why light intake increases the risk of some cancers and not others. The researchers suggest that with cancer of the mouth, pharynx and oesophagus it may be because the alcohol comes into direct contact with the affected tissue.
They suggest the rise in risk for breast cancer may be associated with increased levels of oestrogen, or higher levels of insulin-like growth factors that are produced by the liver after drinking alcohol.
Of course, other evidence suggestions that drinking in moderation could lower the risk of heart disease, leading to the belief that one glass of wine a day is good for you.
Well, we're all going to meet our maker some day, right? Personally, I'd like to enjoy myself before that happens rather than get caught up in all this scientific mumbo jumbo.
How about you?
I'll drink to Mr P's logic
....... CRAP !!!!!!! .......
Uh oh. The same nitwits who brought you the world is flat and leeches are good medicine. Right, W.C.? What's JP selling today, a vintage flask from the Prohibition? If they tell me Mary Jane helps you lose weight and masturbation clears up pimples then I'm gonna start believing the Presidential Polls of unlikely voters who are likely to vote in states where the election is over before their vote is counted.
Oh I had read the contrary, that alcohol in the medicine cabinet can be used for:
Disease Wine Daily dose
------------- ------------------------ -------------
Allergies Chardonay de Paeuf 1 glass
Anemia Graves 4 glass
Bronchitis Bourgogne or Bordeaux
> ( + sugar and cinnamon ) 3 cups
Constipation Anjou blanc electricity . Vouvray 4 glass
Coronary arteries Dry Champagne 4 glass
Diarrhoea Beaujolais Nouveau 4 glass
Fever Champagne sec 1 bottle
Heart Burgundy , Santenay Rouge Two glass
Uric acid gout Sancerre , Pouilly Fume 4 glass
Hypertension Alsace , Sancerre 4 glass
Menopause Saint Emilion 4 glass
Depression Rhine 4 glass
Obesity Burgundy 4 glass
Obesity Rose Provence 1 bottle
Rheumatism Champagne 4 glass
Excessive weight loss
Chateau de Beaune 4 glass
Alcohol is considered a drug, therefore, it should have some medicinal properties. Doesn't it say somewhere in the Bible that a little wine is good for the stomach? Everything in moderation. But what do I know? I don't drink anything stronger than coffee.
Spring- I think you are right. I'll print out your post and tape it to the back of my medicine cabinet and first aid kit.
How many apples are in an aple martinit? Is it real fruit or the artificial flavoring and coloring that we find in perfume and candles?
I'm with Mr. P too... I'm gonna die at some point anyway, I want to enjoy myself while I can.
Haha...actually Julia, I only drink socially and not much. I'm a coffee and green tea drinker. I think everything in moderation is good too, and what was good for Jesus and his crew would be okay by me. I do like my Holy Communion to have real port/sherry instead of grape juice.
For those looking into the "why" though, it appears that ethanol in alcoholic beverages gets broken down in the body, creating acetylaldehyde, which is a known cancer-causing agent
http://www.abc.net.au/health/thepulse/stories/2011/05/26/3219319.htm#.UFBGXY3ia8A
Ivan...ditto!
Who finances these studies? How large was the sample group?
I think I'm going to give up reading, it gives me headaches and causes stress.
Everything in moderation
Todays' generation, whose character includes a condition of being various, is clothed in mixed matched clothing, ie., one will combine plaid clothing skirt, skort, or short assorted with a floral stripped blouse popped with a pair grany shoes adorned floral silk enhancement. They do as their peers....forgetting 19 years of parental warnings... They drink alcohol mixes, all kinds of varieties, ie., redbull or monster with whatever distilled hard liquor spirit...for energy...so that they have lazor focus concentration. when they use their iphones and GO ON internet escapades..**************..SO RAT-GUT IS IN !!!! doesn't it make your tummie swirl, just thinkin about raw ale...moonshine...grain alcohol....and low-grade wine...Jack Morgan go home!!!! Health care professionals see first hand the results of extreme alcohol abuse....."body rot...." on the happy side...drink in moderation to benefit the benefits of an occassional once a week libation...of high quality red wine...I am allergic to sulfites...and use only sulfite-free wine...a dry white chardonay..Alcohol drug prevention is key to keep your health....I say, Safety First !!!!
I've also seen research that shows marijuana helps in fighting cancer so maybe we should just follow the apple-tini with a big fatty and call it even?
MagicAngel~ Re: your post yesterday about growing up Italian...neat! Just great!...meanwhile back at the ranch-
Lotsa fresh fruit inda blenda,and a leetle voka, and the mood is gooood
Besides,without alcohol and tobaco taxes,our economy would crash,and NASCAR wouldn't.....
Roadie- insightful indeed...a tangled web
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I was contemplating a new PSA- Films don't kill people. People kill people. Don't like/don't watch but please don't kill.
I'm sure if we drink alcohol straight it's better than if it's with sugary mixers. Every Monday I drink detox teas and always drink lots of water. AS WITH EVERYTHING: In moderation and with a generally healthy lifestyle, I'm sure it's fine.
At least, it better be.
IF one believes all those studies, I'M DOOMED!!!
Another study (I trust studies as much as I trust polls re:TT), but anyway, another study denouncing alcohol explained that the alcohol-cancer connection was in part due to the "fact" that most of those who drink are also smokers. So it's the cigs that cause the cancer not the booze. But that's a "study" for you, they rarely come up with an earth shaking discovery because they are usually seriously skewed. I tend to not believe anything I read that uses %, probabilities, and the words "exit poll."Or anti-alcohol "studies" carried out by the WCTU, or AA...or similar groups.
Don't any of you think moderation in all things might make jane a dull girl? Or jack, a boring boy? Tedium kills, friends.
Greygoose - Roll it up, I'll be right over...
Isn't it always 5:00 here in the village???
Brownies 'n beer.....mimosa's pancake choices.....all the things our Lord allows us to show us how much She loves us....
Apple tini. Not my choice.
That green apple smell has always driven me to distraction. When the kids used to chew the green apple buble gum I made them go outside.
Give me my cran-pom-ruby red and vodka. That's my new favorite.
I started PT today, can walk up to 1/2 mile a day and, the funniest, work in 5 minute increments.
I hope GRAYGOOSE and CHEFDEB are making good progress with their recoveries.
How's it going ladies?
P4- Tedium Kills. Well spoken. As the hookah smokin caterpillar asked Alice- "You? Who are you?" Wonderland sometimes requires taking a walk on the wild side...Doo dodoo...thass how I got pimples, paunch, and broken dis and dat.
George, glad you liked it. That is the way it was then. :)
Karthal, so happy you are becoming mobile.Chef and Goosie, be well!! Drink, disease-well I feel the DNA kicks in here. Sure statistical research is great, that's how we learn, but I think your heredity and nature VS nurture have something to do with it.Have a life of being happy, but don't run amuck and kill yourself.
I read the article. I read the comments. And I raise Ivan's to a "double crap!!."
So let me get this straight, our choices are abstaining from alcohol altogether and not take advantage of the supposed heart health advantages, or have a drink or two a day and supposedly die of cancer? Well there's a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario.
For my part I abstain, this wasn't always the case and that is why I choose to go without these days.
Terrific news, Korthal. Good for you.
What a great set of giggle comments. Only thing I thought of is that soon someone is going to do research to prove that even safe sex causes cancer. Note I did add the word "safe" thus trying to cover VD, Aids and pregnancy.
KORTHAL & MACIANGEL thanks for good wishes. Have progressed beyond I am afraid I won't die to I afraid i will. I'll drink to that!
Grey goose....sadly, I tried it and had a bad experience. I think it was just too strong, what a shame, everyone was having such a good time with it. I even made a pipe in my ceramics class with Cheech or was it Chong, riding the stem and an ashtray with a marijuana leaf on it.
Nachista... I too abstain because the meds I'm on all cause fatigue, if I have a drink, my face would be in the soup.
The next study, funded by our taxes, will prove that life causes cancer
MISS ANDY: Bless You, and Thank You ....... As to your Post just above, You have no idea just how Right you are ....... "Life Causes Cancer" ... Explanation is way too long for here ... but you are RIGHT !!!
MISS KORTHAL: Have two or three Double Shots of Vodka, and you can do a Mile and a Half ... feeling No Pain ... Remember; NO PAIN is SMART !!!
MISS CAROL: Blessings and Thanks To You Too !!! And I guess a Double Crap would be, Box Cars !!!
Oh no! I must be going to the dogs, since last night I had 3 glasses of wine instead of my usual 1.
SF...I didn't see Zinfandel on the wine remedy menu....does that mean my wine of choice has no medicinal properties?
Korthal...good to hear that PT is going well for you. I second your speedy recovery to ChefDeb and Graygoose.
Hazel, I hope you're getting settled into your new digs.
Andy, I wish you had a picture of that pipe! I bet it was epic! Bad experiences happen for a reason though...it's not for everyone! I really do think it should be available to people who are sick and could benefit from it~but I'm not convinced the majority of normal people could practice moderation.
Korthal~I'm back to my old self again! Glad you are blazing a trail, girlfriend! I found a website where I can order world record sunflower seeds...I bet I win next year ;)
RoadY~ you are a darling! I assume there will never be a skull and crossbones hanging beside the coin operated mirror (that proves undoubtedly that in fact, it IS 5:00 somewhere) in the dear old club car~
IVAN:
My therapist agrees with no pain but if I drank that much I wouldn't be able to walk.
I'm going to start in the AM tomorrow because when I get up the pain is minimal.
Graygoose....I agree, certainly it should be available for those illnesses, glaucoma, chemotherapy, etc, that have been proven to help. Possibly people wouldn't use moderation, but we're not children and the benefits outweigh that fear. By the way, the time I had a problem was when I got it from someone's son....possibly really good er um, stuff! Prior to that experience, it was a great help and my doctor encouraged to continue as long as I could get it.
PS. I'll see if I can get a decent picture....my son in law and daughter have it.
jane****I'm soooo glad to see another Zin fan! I just love that old vine sinfully wonderful red Zinfandel!!
JANE...................always a pleasure! I could care less what the study says, I LOVE my wine & my cocktails. D*mn the studies! I will join you into going to the dogs...............
CHEFD...................I'm so glad that you're back! Don't go all Honey/Ethel again, please!
KORTHAL...................so glad to hear that you walked that far. keep on keeping on. Hope your pain is well dimmed.
CAROL.....................your 2:54 cracked me up. I have never had red zin, I must try it.........mmmmmmmmmmmmm........................
PARK..................I just love the way you shake the fur out of the sheets.............I really do...................
NACHISTA....................and that's good too...........................
Marijuana?????? Legalize it NOW! Seriously, it's absolutely insulting that it is illegal. And I'm not even a partaker. Friends do & if there was an emergency & I had to be driven by someone who had been drinking or by someone who had been getting stoned there would be no contest, I would go w/ the partaker of the wicked weed........................
GRAYGOOSE.......................why should you or anyone else decide if "normal" people can handle marijuana? No one needs a nanny, except a child..........................
ANDY.......................I LOVE the idea of your pipe & ashtray..................when you get off your meds we will have a special vodka night in the clubcar just for you. We will all take turns being a guest bartender & I bet CHEFD could be persuaded to whip up some delicious whores de vores..........................
Ah Bebe - So looking forward to it, I used to be fun! My name was on the men's room wall: For a good time call.........". So sad, now it says "For a fair time....." Unless, of course, you like to see my face in the soup. The pipe and ashtray were made at the JCC in my ceramics class; sometimes they just kind of nod and smile and hope I take this stuff home quickly.
Look bebe, I don't care to be anyone's babysitter. I simply meant that I don't agree with opening pot sales to every Tom, Dick and Harry on the street. I do agree with the legalization of hemp and certainly medical marijuana. I never judged anyone and I don't intend to. So please try to be a little more respectful.
Andy, If it helped you, I sure hope you can still get it :)
Graygoose ... I could get it if I need it, but right now I don't, but thank you. It was real entertainment for my family and friends though since up until that time, I was the only one who had never tried it. My recreational choice has always been wine or vodka.......grey goose vodka.
I do firmly believe it should be legalized, taxed and controlled.
Andy......"used to be fun"! Are you kidding? You are always one of our best of times in this village. It doesn't get any funner than that and don't you forget it!
There may be some Alice B Toklas brownies in the club car tonight. The more you eat, the more you want to eat.
Yea, Carol! old vine, red Zin. bebe....so good to see you! I've never had anything but red Zin....and I'll stick with it, medicinal or not. Though there is white Zinfandel available, I've never tried it...I'm not into white wine. One of these days...wine and /or cocktails! and we'll start our own pack. And I agree with you..legalize pot and I don't indulge either (too introverted) but think it needs to be decriminalized now. PL...with nuts?
Jane....... You betcha there will be nuts. Warm brownie and a scoop of ice cream.
I'm there...
my own 12:27....why...it's deja vu again....(an aside...one night, many,many years ago...as I rested my head on a pillow,on the floor,with my back to the TeeVee machine...having ingested that hinted at sbstance,and a goodly portion of lancers, in that neat bottle,I was amazed that the program on that there TeeVee machine was Soooo engrossing....and though I could not see it from my prone position, I could hear it, and could picture every nuance of the scene that had been in the dialog....when I finally did get up on one elbow to see if what I heard , and what I thought I would see matched....the TeeVee machine was not even turned on!!!!) guess I was....
GRAYGOOSE................I never used the word judge, but actually that is what your post implies. I am confused about your request to show some respect. For what? A post I vehemently disagree w/? I don't think the gov't or any individual should have their hands in marijuana or my womb. By the way, how is that picture of the sunflower that people have been asking you to post, coming along..............................????? PL.......................will there be a hotdog station after the brownies?????????? mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......................hotdogs.......................... JANE.............................huuuuuuulllllllllloooooooooooo.............I too am not much into white wine either. Do you find the red zin w/ the red wines or w/ the white zin???????? Next paycheck I'm there. I have a lovely box of cabernet sauvignon right now.......................I hope your day is splendiforous & I hope someday to sit down & have a glass of wine w/ you.............................. MISSBLUE............................you is sorely needed my dear!
I guess I just fail to see how you extracted that from my statement. I am in complete agreement about the government involvement in the hemp/marijuana industry AND even more so with my female choices. But I'm really sorry if Andy, or you for that matter, felt I was insinuating that you or anyone else needed monitoring. I have been wondering since those comments if one actually could overdose on THC. My train of thought was focused on the bad experience Andy had and I've had experiences where a couple of my close friends got a little too much THC from the medical grade and found their faces in their soup...It scared the living hell out of me, BUT, they were eventually fine once the effects wore off...so I guess where I was going with the statement about "normal" people was in regards to those of us who really don't need the full content of the medical grade products...My question does remain though...CAN A PERSON OD ON THC?
And I wanted to get your opinions on this video that was shared by a politician friend of mine in California. I honestly don't have any idea on the validity of the content, but I found it incredibly interesting.
http://youtu.be/O7G6vjuTOIM
We are having an affair with rain today, so I should have time to find a picture of my sunflowers...the flower had dried down when I took it to the fair, so it isn't as pretty as when it was in bloom!
Bebe,......there will be a hot dog stand of such excellence and proportion that it will even stretch the limits of the limitless club car. I shall save you a stool at the counter and give you a spin......
Graygoose--interesting video on hemp. A biodegradable car?? Sounds almost too good to be true. I realize that decriminalizing pot and figuring out how to tax it is difficult, but it does need to happen. I'm sure it will someday, but have no idea when.
bebe, the red Zin I drink is always found with other red wines. I only recently found out there is white Zin. Its funny, my husband loves hot dogs and knows where to get the best hot dogs (besides at home). He will buy a hot dog whenever and wherever we might be, if there's a stand nearby, whereas you couldn't pay me to eat a hot dog at most stands. He came home the other day and said he'd finally stopped for a surf dog ...never again... as they put sweet relish on it after he said all he wanted was mustard and onions....plus he likes to dress them himself. Now, I'd much rather have a cheeseburger! I'm lifting my wine glass in toast to you, bebe.