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It's okay. The Supreme Court is looking into it too.

In case you’re not up with your S&M, the highest court has decided to look into the case of a sex trafficker, known as the "S&M Svengali."

It seems that on his S&M Svengali website, he was practicing, no surprise, sadomasochism.

I’ve looked; the website isn't there anymore.

Glenn Marcus had been sentenced to nine years in prison for the sexual abuse, physical mutilation and psychological humiliation of a woman who had agreed to be photographed as his "sex slave."

The only catch was that some of the offenses occurred before the 2000 Trafficking Victims Protection Act, which was used to prosecute Marcus.

When a federal appeals court threw out the conviction, the justices agreed they would  accept the government's appeal.

The issue seems to be this:

Consent.

At issue is whether Marcus took the relationship too far and held “Jodi,” against her wishes. Prosecutors claim he manipulated and forced the woman to undergo the punishment, then write about it for the website.

“Jodi” felt like she was in hell and couldn’t escape.

The defense lawyers claimed she liked it; even signed a written agreement.

The case is U.S. v. Marcus, 08-1341, if you want to keep track.

S&M stands for two words, sadism and masochism.

They are named after two writers, Marquis De Sade and Sacher-Masoch, both European aristocrats with a lot of time on their hands.

Always a dangerous combination.

The infamous Marquis De Sade lived in 18th century France, and his writings contain all forms of sexuality which were considered socially unacceptable.

Sacher-Masoch was a 19th century Polish Baron who wrote the novel "Venus In Furs" that pioneered many of the conventions of later sadomasochism, such as the dominant mistress and willing slave role play.

Scientists have later discovered that the body produces an opiate like substance known as endorphin.

Orgasm is one thing that causes the body to release endorphins. Another is exercise. Another is pain.

According to modern practitioners, the basic S&M principles are "safe, sane, and consensual" and people are free to do whatever they want, as long as they can find somebody who wants to do it with them and have a “safe word.”

Like: "Enough already!"

Which gets us back to S&M Svengali and all sorts of First Amendment issues that our Founding Fathers couldn’t have imagined.

Then again, knowing our Founding Fathers…

I do appreciate those who are slavishly reading these daily posts. And, as you know, you are never bound to comment if you don’t wish to.

J. Peterman

 

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July 31, 2012 12:11 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

S&M???  is that where one partner sleeps, while the other,er, master***, (or, in thhe alternative, joins in the Village)hahahaha

July 31, 2012 12:12 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

adds a whole new dimension to : 'crumbs in the bed'....

July 31, 2012 1:10 AM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

Whips, Chains & Midgets Roady ....... You had to know things would arrive at this, sooner or later .......
 
It helps if one has his own Trapeeze ... that way, it can be controlled how sticky it gets, and with what .......

July 31, 2012 4:11 AM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


At precisely 3:00 AM, a young woman in a ( I think) pale yellow summer sun dress and bare feet drifted past as I sat in the shadows on the porch.
To a tune she was humming, she whirled until her little under pants were visible.
I said not a word… having stopped breathing.
Proof enough for me of a loving God.

July 31, 2012 4:46 AM
Here_slooking 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Spring Fragrance said...

RY....here's a mental master***** joke....

“The masochist said ‘Beat me.’ The sadist said ‘No.’”

July 31, 2012 4:48 AM
Here_slooking 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Spring Fragrance said...

Stoney, how bright is 3 am your place?

July 31, 2012 4:58 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Julia Masi said...

Stoney - Do young woman frequently walk down your street at 3:00 am?  Sounds like a very safe neighborhood.

July 31, 2012 5:01 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Julia Masi said...

By the way Mr. P. your last paragraph was very clever.

July 31, 2012 5:10 AM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

Blessings come in many forms ... we should all take them as they come, give Thanks, and enjoy them .......
 
Why do I call that a Blessing ???   Cuz it coulda been a barefoot guy, in the same outfit, dancing down the road ....... Any Real Guy will tell you, that Girls are Better for Lookin' at ...

July 31, 2012 7:52 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

I remember the organized criminal trial involving Hustler Magazine (allegations that the owner ws "engaging in organized crime") in Cincinnati, circa 1975. It all seems surreal now, such a dog & pony show in a courtroom, of all paces. For the first time I actually had aa visceral appreciation of the carnival atmosphere in Tennessee in 1925, where another "perfect storm" of issues, venue, and cast of characters was created. The issue of consent (or the lack thereof) is not identical to issues of freedom of expression versus pornography. There are parallels, however. One man's erotica is another man's reprehensible pornography, and the complicated metric which blends a volatile mix of sexuality & sadism is somewhat same & similar. Freudian psychologists and preachers try to sort out the morality nd healthiness of conduct wherein most of us simultaneously want to both stare #ith curiousity & reprehension. When many years later I finally watched "The People Versus Larry Flynt" I suddenly realized that the bittersweet time capsule that we call "history" is never memorialized with anything other than ambiguity, just like America's involvement in Southeast Asia between 1962 & 1975. Edward Norton did a masterful job of portraying the challenges that attorneys face in confronting difficult clients & "hot button" issues. Most professionals take the "safe" solution, and come up with pretextual reasons to just walk away.....

July 31, 2012 8:34 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

STONEY...............your 4:11 is the perfect, lovely bada bing to IVAN'S  5:10 sweetly funny bada boom........................perfect morning fare.....................aaaaaaahhhhhhhhh, I wish it would rain..............................

July 31, 2012 8:42 AM
270752_10150312062190804_7175723_n 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Graygoose said...

RoadYacht has become a daily dose of grins :) Such a curiosity, this S&M...we in the midwest are sheltered...LOL! The moon last night made it quite bright here and rain would be MUCH appreciated...I may even put on a yellow sundress and DANCE in it! Yes, black leather attire is much less appealing with temps soaring over 100 every day

July 31, 2012 8:47 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

I'd rather atire be rubber

July 31, 2012 9:22 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

So would my car

July 31, 2012 9:26 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

Morning GREYGOOSE.................& it started raining 5 minutes ago...............maybe some will come your way...............I love your photo.............Jackie O sunglasses & a dog..................loverly!

July 31, 2012 9:44 AM
Com-100First-com Carolbabcock said...

I'm really sorry...for hogging the roasted tomato & olive oil triscuits!!

Today's discussion is "YUCK"!! Got better things to do....
Careful out there!!

July 31, 2012 9:58 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

????????????

July 31, 2012 9:58 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

scones & marmelade...................

July 31, 2012 10:14 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Carol said...

Beb----So THAT'S what s&m stands for--Scones & Marmalade!!

July 31, 2012 10:17 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

CAROL..............yep & after looking at your post I just KNEW while I was spelling marmalade that it had no e........................the shame, the humiliation.............d*mn............

July 31, 2012 10:24 AM
The_philosophy_tommy_typical_bookcover 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Naked Apes (Humans) must be quite a mystery to ET's and that certainly explains why they have been reluctant to reveal themselves since The Great Gazoo, the super intellect, befriended Fred Flintstone and Barney. "I just don't understand why they need devices and strange clothing to complicate something that is so wonderfully simple," commented Brak. "Yes. And some even watch devices that show other humans copulating. How can that be any fun?" inquired Sisto. Graygoose's comment about how black leather is not attire for the boys and girls of summer is most astute. Ms Typical and I get a laugh when film depicts people wallowiing in sand, on grass, or in restrictive shower stalls, or on an office desk as we think of biting bugs, sunburned rears, and a pulled muscle. Production value and film editing aside, we love our King Size Bed with our 300-400 thread count cool crisp cotton and the ceiling fan spinning and the fact that you do get wiser when you get older hopefully.   

July 31, 2012 10:49 AM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

I have snow atire fora da weeentur

July 31, 2012 11:16 AM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

For those offended by the topic, isn't the book "50 Shades of Grey" on national magazine covers? It has made s&M mainstream so it seems to bear some discussion. Who would imagine every child would be covered in tattoos and pierced all over? I am fascinated by the public's appetite. When my children were coming of age, Grunge was all the rage. As they covered themselves from head to foot in plaid and denim I pondered the possibility that teaching AIDS=Death put such a terrifying skew on love & sex that they were hiding from their own sexuality. Now in this time of economic and political doldrums there is tremendous interest and excitement about what isn't even new, but what is apparently scary or at least distasteful to many. I haven't read the book, I understand it is very poorly written but I am fasciinated by its popularity.

I do prefer scones & marmalade.....and 300 count sheets

July 31, 2012 12:05 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

and, there's too much sax & violins in music today

July 31, 2012 12:11 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

Years ago I read The Story of O. I can't say I
ever fully appreciated the dark side of sex.  It seems to take all the fun
out of it. Why is it that the porn trade always portrays the participants
making goofy faces? It appears as if there is for them hardly any pleasure or
enjoyment in the process and the sensations at all. Not at all.  If one
can't laugh and make merry during the coupling of man and woman, for crying out
loud, just when can one laugh and have fun?  Let me be clear, I am not
encouraging laughing and having fun while other couples couple. That is a
different topic altogether.

 

For me, it is always a treat when the night begins with a
song, a healthy, lustful song full of anticipation and maybe a monkey jumping on the
bed…

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQOkqTYa33o

 

July 31, 2012 12:25 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...


Miss Greygoose, if you want it to rain put on a yellow slicker and dance, not a yellow sun dress.You are sending a mixed message to the rain gods.

July 31, 2012 1:03 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

MISS BEBE:  Thank You for the mention !!!
 
And You Know, that I respond to Stoney, and the rest of you, with Tongue-in-Cheek, because y'all are smart enough that I don't hafta explain the Punchlines .......
 
That is a refreshing difference for me, and I am very happy I stumbled into this Village !!!

July 31, 2012 1:18 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Gee, less and less I'm thinking I didn't get found in a tomato patch like mama said.

July 31, 2012 1:18 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

S&M: spaghetti and meatballs?

July 31, 2012 1:26 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

50 Shades of Gray - my daughter had never read a book with so much concentration since she found my copy of the Kama Sutra.  Now, I have a couple copies of women's books, or rather novels and short stories about sex and all its variations written by women for women - and the same daughter found those a while ago and did one of those "OH MOTHER!!!" wails, like I shouldn't have such books...typical, huh? <wink> - can't wait till her little girl goes digging in her mom's undie drawer and comes out with the dog eared copy of all volumes of Fifty Shades of Gray.  I guess how it works is that each generation thinks it invented sex and all of its variations and their job is to protect mom and dad from finding out all the nitty gritty truths of the matter - bless their little hearts. ;)

July 31, 2012 1:29 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Hello IVAN dear.  It's so good to see you and your wickedly witty comments today.  It's always a good day when IVAN's around a lot....

July 31, 2012 1:38 PM
270752_10150312062190804_7175723_n 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Graygoose said...

Sweet Bebe~Many thanks! The photo is of my loverly dog, Slick & Myself...yet another S&M for this day ;) Enjoy the rain!
Dear RoadY~I suspect you have atire for all seasons! And if it would ever rain, you may even need ropes or chains to properly accessorize~(whips optional)
And Paolos~I have had the sneaking suspicion for quite some time now that I must be doing something wrong! HA! Such a long, hot, dry spell...

July 31, 2012 1:38 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

Spaghetti & meatballs....................50 shades of delicious...............mmmmmmmm..........................................

July 31, 2012 3:28 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 Rusty said...

If there wasn't sex where whould we all be?  Still in the tomato patch with Park?  But there is just too much good to it to spoil it with pain and discomfort.

July 31, 2012 4:17 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

I find it refreshing that LIES and UTES elicited
greater response from y'all than did SEX and Videotapes. What
a sad, sad state of affairs with a young, vital group like ourselves. 
Let's all take our afternoon naps now and prepare for that wild night just
ahead.

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REjleQ8MeRw

 

July 31, 2012 4:23 PM
P8041286 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300First-comFirst-photoHr-1 IvyGailWinds said...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLNhecnHRJU No time to read all the posts today; new to computer fun-parts like "you-tube and Wikipedia"...... I thought the arts are a safe haven of understanding..for...exotic ..compulsive ..... womanish.....mannish.....clever nature of this nameless project...wink wink nudge nudge..011: indigo.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLNhecnHRJU It is a must see video..and the calisthenics are super good! 21 st century...so glad to be here....when we can learn more about one another....yippee!

July 31, 2012 4:47 PM
2012-07-19-2053-48_edited_medium 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoFirst-review Ginger said...

Looks like Catwoman with a, excuse the pun, cat-o-nine-tails!
 
The Supremes need to learn the meaning of "Stockholm Syndrome."  After a while I would imagine they could have gotten the poor woman to agree to anything, including killing herself, if it would please them.
 
As for sex, I chose my own bed with (sorry TT) 600 count sheets, soft, sweet music (smooth jazz being the genre of choice), candles glowingand wafting their soft scent....I'll just let you imaginations take over here.
 
Ivan--I always thought it was whips, chains, and rusty razor blades...silly me!
 
Stoney---have you been listening to "MacArthur Park" too much?
 
Bert---while I agree with your comment on Edward Norton (I love him in anything he does; Primal Fear was outstanding), methinks Ollie is a bit cracked!

July 31, 2012 5:23 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

MISS GINGER:   (iF miss IT IS)(Brits have the custom of calling Red Hair'd Men, Ginger ... One of the most famous Brit Aviators from WWI was a fellow named, Ginger Lacey ...)
 
Anyhow ... You have no idea what you're missing !!!  Its definitely Midgets !!!
 
 
MISS PARK4:   Thank You so much for the Notice ... Sometimes I think nobody really reads this stuff ... or maybe they just don't get it .......

July 31, 2012 5:37 PM
2012-07-19-2053-48_edited_medium 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoFirst-review Ginger said...

I am indeed all female!  And my uncle was a midget...so I just can't go there!
 
No red hair, either, though I do have a (trained) voice that sounds (as I told my ENT voice-specialist) like Anthony Hopkins in drag (the ENT didn't appreciate the comment).

July 31, 2012 5:52 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

There is a serious
side to today's topic that we have for the most part avoided and that  is just as Miss Ginger pointed out, that
"Jodi" was coerced in the same way as thousands of vulnerable young girls are
led into the depths of depravity by those they think they know and trust. 
If Jax were here today, she'd tell you all about it and I am guessing that much
of this, many of you already know. If nothing else, I'll plug her site once
more

 

 

http://nohumantrafficking.org/

 

July 31, 2012 5:53 PM
2012-07-19-2053-48_edited_medium 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoFirst-review Ginger said...

Rusty, my dear, would you please find out where your neighbor got her Friesian?  I am having trouble even finding one for SALE!

July 31, 2012 6:00 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 Rusty said...

Ginger,  I'll give it a try. 

July 31, 2012 6:02 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Mooseloop said...

"Slavishly" and "bound"...? What is Mr. P trying to tell us?? Is there S&M on his get away ranch where he works, sweats, slaves, pounds nails, and generally hurts himself on t he weekends?

Get the hard liquor ready. Jagermeister shooters, vodka jello, and Southern Comfort passed around. We are in for an orgy. (Marquis de Sade and Story of O could serve as Orgy for Dummies handbooks....No, wait I did not say "hand" or "manual"....wait, that is too suggestive!! Every man/gal for him/herself!!!

I guess the club car will be rolling out the rubber sheets and Wesson oil this evening as we get into the topic with our whole selves! No whips, no chains for me, please, just keep murdering the English language and the torture is enough to get me wound up!! Say the cat is "laying on the rug" instead of " lying on the rug!" Shout out , "Him and me are getting the drinks for all ya'll," or
"Give that tray of hors d'oeuvres to she and I," and "There ain't no use fer you'uns to git up! I'll git them thar drinks!" and I will be tortured into an ecstasy of correction!!

( Hey, redhead here! Who was asking??)

July 31, 2012 6:04 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 Rusty said...

Ivan, dear, dear Ivan, are you out there pulling legs again?  No, I'm not going to ask if....

July 31, 2012 6:05 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Mooseloop said...

When you look at some marriages or relationships and how miserable the participants are, you think they have to be into at least a little masochism.

I'm more like Lucy, and I want all the "ups" I can get!

July 31, 2012 6:16 PM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


SF ~
Interesting you should ask: it has been said that the street lamps a designed so that a person from his home can recognize a person on the sidewalk across the street.
Julia Masi ~
It would be hard to say what goes on at 3:00 AM as a rule, but it was a little disconcerting.
Ivan ~
So true.
bebe ~
It will rain.
Ginger ~
I would drive a bamboo skewer in one ear and out the other before listening to any MacArthur Park.

July 31, 2012 6:18 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

Crisco disco....

July 31, 2012 6:20 PM
2012-07-19-2053-48_edited_medium 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoFirst-review Ginger said...

Mooseloop, you are a hoot!  I ought to give you my Jagermeister glasses...except they are so thin I'm afraid they'd break on the slip-n-slide with the Wesson oil. 
 
How about bad checks?  I had two roommates that taught me the phrase "Beat me, whip me, make me write bad checks!" 
 
TT, you did read where they are now making dispensers for the most popular drinks, just like they do for beer.  I guess that puts an end to the double!  I don't care, I'm still a Drambuie girl!

July 31, 2012 6:21 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

PAOLOS You are so right. What JAX does is humbling and awe-iinspiring and I am now sorry for any comments I have made here at all. I wish I had gone straight to her link as you do--I read it every day and any disrespect I have shown I apologize to JAX and the Cosmos for. Thank you for a well deserved bucket of water.

July 31, 2012 6:25 PM
2012-07-19-2053-48_edited_medium 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoFirst-review Ginger said...

Awwww, Stoney you are breaking my heart!  Didn't you EVER hear the Duke Ellington version of MacArthur park?  I had the great joy of hearing him do it in person and it was fabuloso!  So get the skewer out of your ear and listen to the right type of music!

July 31, 2012 6:56 PM
2012-07-19-2053-48_edited_medium 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoFirst-review Ginger said...

OK, if you like Buddy Greco, here is his version, along with 9 other pianists!  All on concert grand pianos!
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVne4sDzmsM
 
Or perhaps Maynard Ferguson?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DWktSv8vec
 
Even if you hate Jim Webb you gotta love Maynard Ferguson!  Just listen to some of the notes this guy hits!

July 31, 2012 6:57 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

Song still sucks.

July 31, 2012 7:01 PM
The_philosophy_tommy_typical_bookcover 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Ginger- the heck with Mary Ann. I vote for Ginger on the Island though in my Mrs. Robinson era Mrs Howe had a certain mature charm and yes money. Drat. That was American Gigolo. Yep. My Single Malt Dispenser is my left arm. My right one for humidor retrieval. Jimmy Webb tickling the Ivory and performing MacArthur Park is superb and Nancy and Frank Sinatra singing Something Stupid still does it for moi. I sang it to Ms T on our first date. The time is right your perfume fills my head the sky gets red and oh the nights so blue.. 600 thread count getting toward that Oprah 1000 count realm?

July 31, 2012 7:12 PM
The_philosophy_tommy_typical_bookcover 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

I didn't at first see the # of anti-macparkites here so in the spirit of compromise for long never ending ballads I shall toss out Harry Chapin's Taxi and Fogelberg's Auld Lang Syne. Me I'm riding in my taxi taking tips and getting stoned...

July 31, 2012 7:13 PM
2012-07-19-2053-48_edited_medium 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoFirst-review Ginger said...

Sale at Sam's Club.  What can I say...if they put it on sale at that price in the color that works...gotta have the little luxuries in life!
 
Frank is smooth, but Maynard can really cry with his horn! 
 
As for the island, always loved the tropics!  Ocean here I come!  For that matter...why did we never see them swimming?
 
Single malt...ahhhhh!  McCallan 28 yr.  To die for.  But then Drambuie is just single malt distilled down further and heathered herbs added.  Bonnie Prince Charlie's recipe I believe!

July 31, 2012 7:20 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Mooseloop said...

Paolos and ChefDeb - No disrespect intended in the humor....I realize that sex trafficking is a nasty and heinous business, and not the same as the pain for gain of consenting adults who get their jollies from a bit of domination.

Dominating and abusing innocents- especially those taken against their will -- is purely evil and I know that horrible nightmare is one of the missions of our JaxZ and others.....There is obviously a large line between what is abusive and exploitive and what is leather, greasy fun between consenting adults.

One of my favorite stories of the consenting adults faux pas story.... is of the guy in the Spiderman costume who jumped from the top of the dresser and threw his back out while trying to land on his already-bound mate who lay on the California king all sprawled out, but neither could reach the 911 phone for a long time, til he was able to crawl to the phone and tell the operator he needed help. Now, that sounds like S&M (stupid and mindless) to me!

July 31, 2012 7:28 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

ChefDeb and Miss MooseLoop I wasn't dumping water, I was just noting that since we were presented the topic we could display our tragic mask for a post or two.  I don't know how Jackie keeps her sanity after trudging through what she does day after day.  Sadly, sex trafficking is just a small part of what still goes on in the world of forced labor. But then y'all know that.

July 31, 2012 7:47 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

IVAN:  I always read what you write, you've got us spoiled, you have, so I don't acknowledge it was I want to.  But believe me, when I'm reading, I'm right along there with you, laughing or crying or nodding 'yes' or once (or twice) you caused me to knock over one of those dastardly bad-for-me Coca Cola drinks and it just glued my keyboard together something awful.  But I read - but read you I do.  Wouldn't miss it.  Big hug to you, my dear friend. ;)

July 31, 2012 7:49 PM
Poison_dart_frog_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Miss Blue said...

ChefDeb....yes it still does!

July 31, 2012 7:51 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Paolos and ChefDeb:  your humor today is positively killing - or brilliant, as the Brits on TV have been saying... So paolos we should take vitamins, you think?  One of those great big monstrous pills that has a little bit of everything in it, just to cover all the bases, even if ever so slightly...  ?  That's your prescription?  I'll try it.  Maybe then one night I'll be able to stay up like a big girl and post into the morning hours with you grown-ups.  I don't know how you can stay up so late...so often.  But I'm glad you do.

July 31, 2012 7:54 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Rusty:  the tomato patch isn't a bad place, really.  It's not so good this year because of the drought but otherwise, it's okay.  Sure beats living in the lima bean patch, you know?

July 31, 2012 7:55 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

Maybe its the little blue pills.

July 31, 2012 7:55 PM
P8041286 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300First-comFirst-photoHr-1 IvyGailWinds said...

USA 19th Gold Medal:  Michael Phelps breaks Olympic Record with 4X200 meter Freestyle meter GOLD...!!! Fantastic....lifeguarded the ASU Mens TEAM for Swimming and Diving outstanding swimming everyday... every meet ....was a Gold winning day...for swimmers and divers....indeed a great fun sport...helps you to be a better spear-fisherman..or fisherwoman...and clearer thinking...Olympics...is better.... than landing on the moon....in my eyes....

July 31, 2012 8:19 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

Miss Park ~ Thank you for saying so. It appears as if the afternoon siesta revitalized everyone.  Anything is better than Geritol.  Do they still make that stuff?   

July 31, 2012 8:29 PM
Poison_dart_frog_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Miss Blue said...

 to Dick Bernly: [after seeing Hart tied up and drawing the wrong conclusion] So! This is what you're into now? Bondage!
Judy: What's that?
Dick Bernly: Bondage, S&M, sex games!
Judy: [thinking fast] Uh... that's right! All of it, I'm into... everything. Now, get out of here!
Dick Bernly: Who was that guy?
Judy: He's my boss.
Dick Bernly: Your boss? You're having an affair with your boss? Isn't that typical!
Judy: Just like you had an affair with your secretary!
Dick Bernly: But, Judy, you can't do this! This isn't you!
Judy: Don't you tell me what I can or can't do! Those days are over! And if I want to have an affair, or play sex games, or do M&M's, you can't stop me!
Dick Bernly: M&M's? 
9 to 5 ( the movie)

July 31, 2012 9:01 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 Rusty said...

Sorry to hear the drought has taken a toll on the tomato patch, Park4.  Wish I could send you some of mine.  My plants have reached 4 1/2 feet and are ladened.  Just picked two beauties.  Good place that tomato patch.

July 31, 2012 9:05 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

Richard Harris's Mcarthur Park is my alltime favorite....................I would listen to my parent's record over & over...........................I love that song w/ all my heart, I even think Donna Summers' version is wonderful. I get so excited whenever I hear this song...................doesn't anyone like it? Anyone?
 
If anyone can top the trio of PARK, CHEFD, & MISSBLUE for that je ne sais quois..........................well then I will buy my own copy of 50 Shades tomorrow.......................
 
PARK....................your 1:26 is splendidly funny & I laughed out loud & even had a snort...............

July 31, 2012 9:19 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

I aim to snort.  (?!)

July 31, 2012 9:20 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

paolos:  how come you think I know if they still make Geritol....;)

July 31, 2012 9:40 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

No disrespect meant, Miss Park, I, um, thought maybe Stoney might have mentioned it at some time not too long ago. I was hoping to score a bottle.

July 31, 2012 9:52 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

BEBE You must have been in love...and yes Ginger and Tommy like it! Thank you for your kind words....I was far behind PARK & MISS BLUE today......

July 31, 2012 10:22 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

CHEFD..................I will get you back!!!!!!

July 31, 2012 10:24 PM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Heard through the walls of a sleazy motel: "C'mon boy scout you altar boy… you're not leaving here without hurting me just a little!"
"Well, okay then ( sigh, cough) your ankles are a little thick, your fake fingernails are awful, your eyes are yellow… how am I doing so far because I could go on… your neck is not really holding up too well.

July 31, 2012 10:29 PM
Bisa-avatar 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 JaxZ said...

My ears were burning.

Oh all right, I was on my website and a couple of hits came in from OUR page and I thought "What is going ON over there?"

I miss you all so much I can hardly stand it. I've gotten into a "work till I drop cause I'm afraid I will if I stop" mode and I need you all to swat me and drag me back. No dragging will actually be neccessary, a skateboard or somesuch under my behind will work nicely.

ChefDeb, Dear Heart you are truly loving to be so sensitive and I'm grateful, but you never need to worry, you have a perfectly wonderful compass to steer by.

Paolos thank you. Always there supporting. What an awesome thing.

There isn't a single thing wrong with a couple's consenting, MUTUALLY pleasuring arrangements.

The problem in defining the possible "problems" in the topic is that anyone at anytime can be coerced into saying they are a willing participant.

The story above does indeed portray the Stockholm Syndrome. I'm going to break a unwritten rule and OverShare (again!) . Those who care for me will forgive me and I apologize to the rest.

It's taken me a lifetime to overcome, or at least fight damage planted by some of the ideas discussed above. There is no difference if you inculcate them into a child or adult, the basis of true S and M by definition causes inability to defend, or even consider oneself as needing defense from what is harmful whether receiving or inflicting.

Between two people who love or are at least tender towards each other such a thing would be unthinkable; to make the other utterly vulnerable for the sake of the power to do so. How much further from love or affection can you travel? Love looks in the other's eyes and says "you may do anything because I'm safe in your hands" and they are.

This other point is something else. It's not about sex at all. Sex is merely an acceptable medium for the psychosis. Who will speak out against someone's right to be [use chosen erotic word], etc. What they do in their own... Behind closed doors....

Removing control. A gun with no safety. Now that media exposure makes this "play", the very wise "safe word" for those who want to experiment on the fringes gives adventurous lovers a way to dabble without ever really risking what the topic is about.

The other serious related problem is the constant association of sex with violence (anger) as being pleasureable. No means yes. Movies, music, advertising reinforce it. It drives the endorphin chasing levels higher, like increasing drug use or porn addiction. Our teens grow up thinking it's normal no matter what we tell them at home (how can we be right and the entire world be wrong) and almost 70% of American children have viewed video porn (not Playboy) by the age of 9, usually at school on a smart phone.

My final point is that I'm the extreme voice here. I deal with the topic at it's end game. The reason I can hold a teen who's been raped, burned, cut and beaten is because I know what's going on inside. The Stockholm Syndrome. They think they gave permission somewhere along the way. It's their fault. They've been told they enjoy it. They deserve it. It's who they are and what they were made for.

Those inflicting the damage say the same things. They (victim) love it. They had it coming. They were begging for it. Ironic that the Trafficking Victim Protection Act featured in this case has expired and for the first time since 2000 and is stuck in the House, waiting to be renewed. I won't even go there.

July 31, 2012 10:32 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

MISS RUSTY:  I warnt pullin' no laygs on there Ma'am ....... I serusly wuz gonna open me a Home For Wayward Girls, once't upon a time ....... But my Second Missus an her Mammy warnt too keen on the idear ....... You jes never know about some people, do ye .......

MISS PARK4:  Thank You for your kind Words ....... It simply seems at times, when I might try and stir things up a mite, that ever body is asleep or not readin ' and its Good to know that You are ... and I Thank You some more ...
 
MISS GINGER:  I Thank You for your Genderific Verification !!!   My Cousin Hugo was a Midget ... a not uncommon phenomenon among Romany-Jews ... He was an Elephant handler from his Teen years, and once he got to the States, he was hired away by Ringling Brothers, and shortly(no pun intended)thereafter he was swept away to the Left Coast and spent a lot of time in the Movies ... when Little People Gypsies were needed or Ground Crew in Long Shots for Casablanca Airports, to make a Beech QueenAir look like a DC3 at a distance ....... Tho' Hugo was on the Left Coast, once he got his Citizenship Papers, and got his Voter Registration, because it seemed so natural after all those years as a Handler for the Animals,  Hugo became a Card Carryin' Republican ..........
 
British Libraries have dozens of Books written about and by Ginger Lacey and his exploits during WWI  ... a lot of the Stik used in a Movie called, "The Blue Max" which starred George Peppard(who did not have Red Hair) were about indidents that Lacey lived thru ...
 
Tomorrow, there will be a Film Shown in the Auditorium, by The National Jewographic  Society, on How to Avoid Dyspepsia When traveling, and Not Eating Kosher, or How to Tell Your Cab Driver, in Ten Different Languages, FIND  ME  A  KATZ' !!!

July 31, 2012 10:50 PM
Bisa-avatar 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 JaxZ said...

Ivan! Park! bebe!!!❤ Eli! Stoney!xo Paolos♨ (sorry, I just associate you with food).... and everybody I was concentrating too hard to be sociable to and say hello when I came in!

July 31, 2012 10:52 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

Jax~ I wish you would go there even if briefly.  Why is it stuck in the House? Oh hell I'll google it,you need your rest. IVAN ~ You, my friend, have been working too hard.

July 31, 2012 11:04 PM
Bisa-avatar 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 JaxZ said...

Paolos, I just came back from DC! You're pulling my leg. {{Razzzzzzberrrrrry!!}}

July 31, 2012 11:05 PM
Bisa-avatar 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 JaxZ said...

I'm so gullible. No wonder no one listens to me. *snicker*

July 31, 2012 11:17 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

Jax        
I was just wanting your take on why the bill is stalled in the house.  It looks to have non- partisan support.    

July 31, 2012 11:42 PM
Bisa-avatar 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 JaxZ said...

Amazingly, it's not so much a partisan issue. The Act is not inherently strong in itself, it was meant to be a framework, but it's the only anti-slavery legislation since the Emancipation Proclamation. It needs work constantly as the extent and scope of slavery in the US becomes apparent and each time it's renewed it's been strengthened.

This time there were serious loopholes that needed closing or at least tightening and some funding was involved because among other things, prosecuting cases costs money. I can give you the written proposals for the changes (which your wife and I were signatories on), which were logical and modest. They were voted down, so now it's in limbo. They can't just say "We're pro slavery now" but they won't renew.

The numbers are becoming crippling and part of the problems they're quibbling over are things like a couple of million dollars nationwide for court and law related agencies. It costs money in manhours to identify and prosecute charges of trafficking rather than say prostitution. It costs more to prosecute the traffickers and the higher sentences mean more expensive incarceration costs. With close to 300,000 American kids being trafficked a year you'd think that chump change was a reasonable request. A trafficker makes $100,000 a month on one 12- 14 year old.

August 01, 2012 12:12 AM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Ah, Jax ~
It is possible, sometimes, to sleep easier knowing you are on the job but then, it is sometimes impossible to sleep at all knowing it is you.

August 01, 2012 1:41 AM
Here_slooking 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Spring Fragrance said...

Jax, you are truly inspirational and I am humbled

August 01, 2012 8:30 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

JAX......................so very wonderful to see you................I have been conjuring you and you finally show up! I can't tell you what a treat it was to see your posts this morning.
 
Like you said, you are in the trenches & you see what many of us only read about & that is probably sanitized. I am always a tad worried when we put labels on something that we may find repugnant or see as abusive and others see as their life and enjoyment. (understand that I am strictly talking about adults here.) The longer that I am around in this life the more I realize that there's lots going on that most of us will never understand, let alone experience. I DO get worried when anyone wants to regulate adult activities or label them as something that is most likely not understandable except to the people involved...............it's that whole government get out of my Everything!
 
PAOLOS brought up The Story of O and I read it when I was young and it was cool to do so. I went back many years later & reread it & what struck me was that what I had thought so cool & so beyond the pale was actually a heartbreakingly sad story. The second time around really was a depressing read.
 
I think what you do is so important and I know you will never stop. You are fierce JAX. Keep on fighting the good fight and you really are not allowed to be gone like this. Be well, take care of yourself & I love you, heart back!.............................

August 01, 2012 8:43 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

JAX................one thing I forgot..........your statistic of 70% of children seeing porn by the age of 9................so many of them will be jaded by the time of their first love in a way we weren't. The mystery & beauty taken away...............I have read studies that have shown that male teens now have an unrealistic expectation of what a woman's body should look like based on the internet porn they have consumed. but I have faith that many loving parents are working really hard to preserve their children's innocence and childhood.
 
I will stop being rambling woman..........

August 01, 2012 6:52 PM
Bisa-avatar 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 JaxZ said...

Anytime I need a emotional relief cry all I have to do is take a look in here after everyone has gone home. I doubt you understand how words like these armor me (although I feel like a fraud because you never see how cowardly I can be). I hang onto them when I'm in an empty place, or one with black shadows.

Stoney. The keyboard is not enough. Wish my arms were longer.

Spring, 湯

bebe, I understand. There's a difference betwen intrusion and rescue. And I can't believe how MANY things look completely different now.....like me in a tube top...Bwahahahahaa!

But you're so right, part of the rage for me is that this perfect creation for absolute pleasure gets destroyed. Not because of changes in form or technique, but because it's removed from the context of humanite.

I think it was Tommy? who pointed out how funny it is to watch a film's passionate love scene on beach sand while all who've tried it are thinking; um no.

I'm kinda glad I wear glasses now. Otherwise I'd never be able to take them off and look in the mirror thinking "Hmmmmm... I'D have sex with me!"

Speaking of rambling......

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