Truth Lies in the Eyes?

The eyes have it.

Aye?

W T T W....the EyEs are the "Window to the World"...and some times those windows need cleaning....truth is better received with that 'third EyE', the empathic one, we all have it....   When you 'just know' some one is trying to pull one over on you ("Yes, Honey, Santa DOES still love you, he just didn't have a red bike for you"), but you want to believe anyway....and so you make do with a string that you pull behind you, making the rrrrring rrring sound of the handlebar bell that your neighbor got on HER RED bike....knowing that she cried REAL LOUD when she fell and scraped her knees, but you didn't....and besides, you can take your string/red bike, upstairs and into your bed where it is safe...and she has to leave hers in the garage,all by itself,lonely....hahahahaha

I think that the research reported in the Huffington Post is wrong. Never mind what direction the eyes swivel, before there was any science on the topic, a person with "a shifty eyed look" was deemed to be untrustworthy. Even Floyd and his kin  when caught out in naughtiness will get the guilty dog rolling eyes  thing .... loads of examples on YouTube.

City to crack down -- on sitting!

Copied that headline and, without knowing the particulars, aren't they too late?

Good morning RY, STONEY, HAZEL, & LOT.......................a great group to wake up to!
 
I gots lots of nuthin' so I am going to make cinnamon rolls after I finish my hot tea..................mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....................................

But The Age Of Truth Will Soon Appear, Aquarius Arrives.
A Man's A Man Who Looks A Man Right Between The Eyes.

Wasn't there a song about googley EyEs? Isnrt that part of their logo?

Barney Google. My mom sang it from time to time.

I remember seeing a TV special some time ago that showed that when people lie there was a wrinkle in the forehead, a momentary tensing.  They showed a number of videos, including some where they knew the person was lying and this brief tensing showed up consistently.  They even showed videos of the same person at other times and it did not.  One of the subjects was Nixon which made it interesting.  Another was John Kennedy.  The lies were known from what happened later.  Evidently the FBI uses this when interrogating people.  They film them and look for the wrinkle to appear.

Law enforcement people whose jub it is to gather information from people whose credibility is at issue have a protocol that they use to determine who's being truthful and who's evasive in their responses. Good detectives and the best profilers are quick to acknowledge, however, that there are no "one size fits all" answers. People often give blended answers, responses comingling truth & fabrications. Then there's the entire science of selective perception, meaning that although it seems counter-intuitive most eyewitness testimony is highly unreliable. Furthermore psychopathic deviates, devoid of the limitations imposed by having a conscience, are less likely to be uncomfortable stating falsehoods. Drug & alcohol ingestion as well as active mental illness skewer responses, so much so that good polygraph experts insist that the sublect first give a blood sample for testing. When we comment online, our audience is deprived of critical body language that we otherwise all use to help determine when someone is serious, joking, prevaricating, or straightforward. We don't even know with mathematical precision whether or not Peterman really exists, or if "he" in fact is a subcontractor. Aaarrrggghhh!!!

and with politicians or used car salesmen, it's the lips you should watch.  Y'all have a good day.  My apologies to any used car salesman out there.

BEBE are the cinnamon rolls ready yet?

I used to have coffee across the street from our building, in Omaha, with a man who was well known internationally for being able to beat any polygraph protocol and every inquisitor even the FBI.
Two seasoned policeman ganged up on him and wound up fighting each other. There was a wager involved.
He was not well liked by the experts, in fact, they really despised him but I didn't.

When enough bank employees, of which I was one, refused  proposed lie detector tests, the idea was dropped in favor of interviews… long and penetrating interviews by an outside outfit.
It was intense and painful for almost everybody and risky for some who had over-burnished their QVs.
I had a bet, several actually, that my interview on a Friday afternoon would be over in under fifteen minutes.
It had a little something to do with my walking over to the window and pointing out that the guy's car was being towed by my friend Joel.
He bolted.
It was just luck that his files and the shredder chute were so handy to each other.
The interesting part was that under a blanket in the back of his wagon were cases of non-taxed cigarettes.
He retrieved his brief case and watch but never returned.
Oddly, I had nothing to hide.

 I'm with yu Ry and Bert. Besides, IF one is paying attention and observant, you will KNOW if you are being lied to. Shame on the lier cause it always comes back to bite ya!!

Well, saying you know when you are being lied to is like saying you always recognize a hairpiece or falsies.
Not really.
Then, there is the acceptance of unsubstantiated statements by others because you happen to approve… you become a party to that lie.
Chatting with someone so obviously on the lookout for physical quirks or inconstancies is probably something many persons would notice and seek to avoid.

Love the hairpiece and falsies part. Yes, I agree also with you Stone. People are fascinating and their insights are what makes the world go round.

Bert ~
Just wondering: if you apply your superior skills and know an accused person is lying, do you defend him anyway?

Good thoughts to ruminate upon, RY and Bert -- I think I agree with those comments....and Hazel who reminds us that "shifty eyed" is so named for a reason. Some liars are not sophisticated enough to stare you in the eyes as they lie, but seasoned ones are. I have dealt with teens in many yrs. teaching, and some could lie with a straight face, while others might grin and give themselves away. Glancing away when telling a person some information, generally means the speaker is either having trouble remembering or making it up, in my experience.

As for myself, I learned long ago that it is easier to remember the truth, no matter how unpleasant or how much the listener does not want to hear it, than it is to make up an untruth and then try to remember what you told! Just tell the truth and try to live so that the truth is something you can live with!

I'd bet that most of the folks who post here are in the Land of True Living. Except for the obvious flights of fancy in the Sepia Train, petting Floyd, and partaking of each other's daily sumptuous cooking!

 I don't know what it says that I agree with BERT and STONEY in whole, and, in part, with several others.  Even the mutable is immutable; the immutable, mutable. Circumstances and relativity color what we do, see, think, dream....  No sooner have I decided "I think thus and so" than someone offers a position I can't ignore, and must incorporate.
 
Thus my eyes probably shift and shift. And shift, from nervousness at the situation.  In a recent "60 Minutes," Leslie Stahl interviewed authororities about the accuracy of identification using lineups vs. polygraphs. She participared, and was stunned when she failed both, which unsurprised police said is average. 

Ahhh, then there is the mystery of Mr. Peterman, our host....Is he actually writing to us each day to start our discussions with pithy topics, or is he hiring out the computer site job to a techie who just likes to do this kind of work?

Will we ever know? What about it, Mr. P? Are you really at the farm, or off on an island basking in the Caribbean breezes, summoning the cabana girl for another?

For awhile there was a project to make faces out of mundane parts of the world by using goggly eyes.  Some 'faces' turned out to be very clever....it's actually called Eye-bombing and you can do a search and find some of the very creative ways of making things seems almost human with the application of googly-eyes.         I'm still thinking on the real topic of the day....oops! my eyes may have just for a second glanced away as I said that.

let me see if I can gently persuade Y'alls to have one of these deeeliciious, non-fattening,gluten free, fatless,all natural,non-GMO,treats....and they will never add a pound of weight....they're right here in the cereal isle, next to all those things we should never eat; frosted thingys,suguar coated thingys,berrylicious thingys (and THOSE have a prize in the box-makes you want them even if they taste like cardboard)...and there are only cartoon character EyEs to look at....but....we believe.....snap,crackle,     pop

aare those TeeVee commercials for Kid's cereals any worse than the political commercials?

...and then there are relativity arguments.....you are sitting in a restaurant...the wait person comes by and hands you a menu,and maybe water, and says "Hello, I'll be right back to take your order..."  Now, for the hour you are there, that is your wait person. BUT, and this is important, you are sitting at on of five tables that are the responsibility of that person, and four of those may actually change occupants in the hour you are there. My point? That is YOUR wait person for the whole hour, but YOU may occupy only six,to eight minutes (in total) of THEIR hour.   Both things are true, but vastly different from point of view.

p- I sold used cars when I was in between institutions of higher learning one summer. Our warranty was 30 feet or 30 seconds whichever comes first. We sold payments not sales price. It apparently bled over into the real estate market. When I got enough money I was off to Aspen. Anyhow the really good salesmen could look you in the eye and make you believe anything they said. Kind of like TIn Men with Danny DeVito...    

Cars are mostly impulse buys and the salesman is just telling you what
you want to hear.  You see it, you like the way it looks, the way it
sounds, the way it runs, you are hooked.  Not much different than it is
with a woman.

p- Truer words have never been spoken...When you get what you want there is no biuyer's remorse...But as my 80 year old partner once told me...all buyers are liars...

Does asnyone remember the ALPO dogfood commercial where in the closing shot the spokesman leans in to the camara and says "And we couldn't say that on TV if it wasn't true"?

And then there is Casey Anthony, who lied like a satin smooth rug day in and day out, and she showed none of the 'typical' signs of lying.  Even though she couldn't open her mouth without saying a whopper.   Some people are just good at lying, like her.  Consistency is unimportant, looking to the left or right or wrinkling between the eyes or cying dry tears - none of it matters if you've got lying in your blood like she does.  That jury of 12 ("some florida village is missing 12 idiots" as it was said)- saw her as she wanted them to see her.  Liar liar.  I'll go to my grave wondering what happened to our jury system in that trial.  I wish her nose would have grown with each lie, I'd love to see what she'd look like if that would happen...

Yeah, lets tread easily on the used car sellers.  My grampa sold used cars in Arizona, after the war (II) he had a big lot (I saw pictures) of cars, and a whole lot of left over Army vehicles.  If I hadn't been only of carpet crawler age- it would have been my big chance to get a jeep, an actual used Willy of my own.  I'd still have it today, I would.  Those and Woodys are my favorites when it comes to getting from here to there and back again, if that's the plan.

The average time a person goes without telling a lie is ten minutes.
Most job interviews last...ten minutes.

Quid est veritas? No matter where you look, the truth will out. Will Shakespeare said that or was it Abe Lincoln? 

When all the world's asleep Mr. P's questions ?????? run so deep...Forget the eyes . Can we try to see into each other's souls? No lying there...Anyway Supertramp....The Logical Song...http://youtu.be/5k3JVfxluFU

What was that line? "Are ya gonna believe your lying EyEs, or what I tells ya.."

Here's a little Laura Nyro http://youtu.be/jwSNbC9zK-w As I throw a couple of Filets on the grill and Ms Typical throws together a Tomato/Blue Chesse/Onion salad I have been listening to one of the greatest songwriter/singers Ever. I wish I had that first piece of vinyl I bought. And When I Die by BS&T was chilling but her version even more so.

CHEFD..................they were deeeeeeeeeeelicious..............mmmmmmmmm..................
 
BERT.....................there are very few times when I cannot tell in what context someone is posting........................maybe I am not paranoid enough.........................
 
PARK....................she is one nasty piece of work...................

Inspector Lewis will know!!

The current book by the Casey Anthony attorney, says she was half out of it, and was covering up for her parents...her dad being the one who found the drowned child and decided to cover up her death.....The attorney has been on several talk shows lately....The dad was a former policeman, so knew the drill, and he apparently told Casy (a good time girl with no common sense and no maternal instincts at all) "he would take care of it."

So, in her ignorance, is she totally responsible? Sounds like she was never a mother to that child, and just felt the kid was an impediment to her social life....Dad and wife were taking care of the girl, but she drowned in the family pool and the dad covered up by burying her like her had buried lots of family pets in the past....same exact method.....oh, how cheaply a child's life was held....Casey was herself a child like kid with no sense of parental duty. Wonder if she shifted her eyes when they questioned her....??

Like HE had buried pets....sorry for the typos....Just thinking faster than I can type.

Here's the deal: we're talking, I take you at your word.
I don't watch your eyes, mannerisms, or consider your motives and I don't think I like people who do.
If it matters, and I have doubts, I (knowing people in low places) check.
That has never happened when I was wrong about it but mostly I haven't done that.
Life is pretty simple unless you don't want it to be or you, like Bert, work with liars.

and they smile at you,at the Bank,when you make a deposit, and they charge you, for some small thing (like a missed comma/period)on a deposit slip....then they drive home in a verrrry expen$ive car, to a very expen$ive home, feeling quite justified for taking the monie$ you need......bah!humbug!!