Of all the sins, the sin of Pride is considered the worst and perhaps the most difficult one to get rid of.
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After putting some great names through the Perseverance filter, the name that kept persevering was Sir Winston Churchill.
As much for what he had to overcome as what he went on to accomplish.
He was born two months premature, to a brilliant but brittle father, who hated him on sight and a socialite American mother, Jenny Jerome, who ignored him throughout his life.
He certainly didn't get off to a flying start with his early schooling. Crumbling under his father's unrelenting pressure to be a "Churchill," young Winston was a mediocre student at a small private school, where his tantrums got him caned. Although a glimpse of his oratorical skills was evident when he memorized 1,200 lines of poetry and won a school prize even though he couldn't pronounce his S's.
His father tried to make a man out of him, sending him to military school at Sandhurst. And he was admitted to the Cavalry Class only because he was able to provide his own horse.
As a correspondent during the Boer War, he made a daring escape when he was taken prisoner, and emerged as a bit of a hero. Since he didn't have the grades for Oxford, he chose politics; he was good at it and he would switch parties until he found someone who agreed with him.
He blew his one decent job as Admiral of the Navy. During the first few months of World War I, his Dardanelles Straits strategy cost over 200,000 Allied casualties and his job. But if Churchill was anything (as we have noted) he was persistent. He returned to the Conservative Party again and was appointed Chancellor of the Exchequer under Baldwin. When the party collapsed, he was now an ex-Exchequer.
Going broke when the American stock market collapsed didn't stop him. Nor did a speech impediment, enough vices to render anyone else incapable of thought, a father he never could please, or being virtually "banished" to the family home in Chartwell and sentenced to a lifetime of growing artichokes.
In fact it was this very period, when he held no political office, which was one of the most important periods in Winston Churchill's career. Documented by his own words in "The Gathering Storm" and in William Manchester's "The Last Lion," he railed against the policy of appeasement towards Nazi Germany, led by Neville Chamberlain. For almost a decade, Churchill, even though his ideas were considered by most to be delusional, continued to warn against the encroaching tyranny of Hitler - telling Britain to shore up its defenses and prepare for war.
After Chamberlain's Munich Agreement was signed, giving Hitler virtually everything he wanted, Churchill said to parliament, "One pound was demanded at the pistol's point. When it was given, two pounds were demanded at the pistol's point. Finally, the dictator consented to take one pound, 17 shillings and sixpence, and the rest in promises of good will for the future."
When Hitler, ignoring the treaty, marched into Czechoslovakia, he had according to Churchill's words, broken every tie of good faith with the British and French who tried so hard to believe in him.
When Churchill proved to be right all along, the British public remembered the jaunty little man, with the omnipresent cigar, who had counseled them all with utterances like, "If a dog makes a dash for my trousers, I shoot him down before he can bite."
And proved he wasn't so delusional after all.
He became Prime Minister on May 13, 1940, at the age of 65, uttering those famous words to his cabinet; "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat."
Armed with a new set of dentures that enhanced his distinctive public speaking style, he mobilized the English Language, as Edward R. Murrow said, and sent it to battle.
And the rest, as they say, was history. A life well spent, I think, you?
still thinking about today...
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"You can tell when there is Genius in our midst, by the confederacy of Dunces around him"
Jonathan Swift
"'From Stettin in the Baltic to Trieste in the Adriatic, an iron curtain…'
Words spoken by a man who, like Eisenhower and Truman from our own breadbasket, was both a forger of and forged by The War and upon whose boyhood yards I have or will one day set foot."
The start of a history paper written by a young me which was, fifty odd years ago, along with more pretentious twaddle, well received by a teacher named Theresa something who liked me as well as I did her and who had a memorable handshake.
Funny to remember that.
I have, and will, smoke the cigars named Churchill, for their distinctive shape and heft. I would assume that to have such as that named after one's self, a prodigious supply would be forthcoming to test..... I have also seen that he knew of the Daleks.....but I digress
Fond memories of traveling in his country several times, visiting at Chartwell once.
He was a man shaped by his office and forged by the times. He was in the right place at the right time when his country and the world desperately needed him someone like him. A man with grit.
'Seems some of
our finest and most effective politicians have been farmers; they are
accustomed to handling fertilizer.
I do love traveling in Britain, but do note Churchill's wisdom when he noted that "we are two peoples divided by a common language." I have found that particularly true in Scotland. A father who hated him? Gad, another male idiot. Where do some men get the notion that they have the right to hate a child rather than the responsibility to love?
I am speechless.
Churchill's courage in standing up to Hitler's Luftwaffe in the Battle of Britain was contagious, it got the general population motivated, and it set an example for other countries. The price that England paid cannot be measured in money. Right along the Thames River in London there is a memorial to the Royal Air Force. The Imperial War Museum is well worth a visit as well. It is a reminder to adults of the sacrifices of others, as well as a history lesson for our children & grandchildren. Our current difficulties are formidable but far from insurmountable. It took the events of 11 September 2001 to rekindle similar fires of unity to common purpose, not just in America but around the world. Perhaps some day we will realize that myopia is the wrong reaction when we confront the terrifying view fron the edge of the abyss. Lethargy may just be a manifestation of the selfishness inherent in the human condition trumping the call of duty of our collective conscience telling us to never take our eyes off the prize. The diseases of apathy & inertia are not without a cure, but first must come a collective change of heart.
On the morning commute, I noticed a sign growing in a neighbor's yard. Simply stated, PAY FOR AMERICA. Certainly not a misprint. Good Day All. And a special good day to you Miss Blue. How goes the studies?
MISS BLUE kudos on 7:25!
My father and grandfather revered Churchill, There was and is always the pride that he was half American. I never pass a sign for Jerome Avenue in NYC without a nod to Sir Winston.
HAZEL are you good speechless or bad speechless? Its not a usual condiiton for you!
What anice cozy group this is this morning. maybe we'll get some BEBE...
If not for Churchill....who knows who we would now be and what language we would be speaking.
Sign in one neighbor's yard : ABO....Anybody But Obama.
People are feeling strongly about this situation in our country. November will show the division. This tax on the half of the nation that is paying up to support the other half who are not paying is like the proverbial straw on the camel. ALL of those who claim "benefits" and "freebies" are not sick or poor. Too many are illegal and/or lazy. Some sorting out is in order.
On Churchill, his tenacity and wisdom make him a person to respect in spite of whatever weaknesses one wants to list. We all know he had an American mother. He was made a Citizen of the United States by Pres. Kennedy in 1963, and I for one am proud to claim him.
Besides his series on the war and his other books or biographies of him My Darling Clemtine gives another aspect to the great man.
Churchill did the hard work of focusing on a single issue like the war. The Labour Party's rise during the war on social issues that came to the forefront post war with a landslide in 1945 caused him a defeat and sent him into depression. "Churchill soon recovered his spirits. He reinvented himself as a global statesman, doggedly retained the leadership of the Conservative Party, and confidently awaited what he saw as the inevitable reaction against Socialism." That is one of the greatest inspirations for me. As we age, we in our own ways should never forget the past and its lessons but we have to reinvent ourselves to meet the challenges of the times in many ways. I commend Judge Roberts decision because a truth of the plan like it or not has been clearly spelled out. In order for the plan to be fully implemented it must be called a tax. Congress has a right to tax those who don't have health insurance and who rely on the system to pay for some or all of their services. Now the public must decide if it is willing to support this tax. That to me is constitutional. The Supreme Court did what it had to do. Now we will see if Congress and the Executive branches whoever they are or will be do their job like Churchill did his even if it results in short term political disaster. In the end TRUE Leaders create a legacy that supercedes their time in office because what they did made the world a better place.
Way to go Moose: "Some sorting out is in order." Well put and so very true. I say we start at the top.
I am closing down early today, to attend to some special doin's in the Community ... So, I want to Wish Each and Every One of You a GREAT WEEKEND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Be Safe, Be Well, Eat ... Drink ... and Enjoy Family & Friends ....... Get Some Sun if You have it available ... Let the CopperTone bubble !!!
To Those of You Who Do ....... GOOD SHABBOS !!!
I Wish You All a Sabbath of Peace, of Joy, and Rest .......
"How Good it is for us to dwell together in Peace ..."
May Our Rest Be Pleasing To Him Who Commanded the Mitzvah .......
Blessings Upon You All ...
IVAN
Tommy: with all due respect, and I do respect you, I disagree with your view on Roberts' decision. If you need to twist a decision to get it to "work" - I don't see that as right. Too, congress does of course have the right to tax, but the judiciary does not. In this case, I see the judiciary as creating law, and that is not within their scope as written in our Constitution. I respect the Supreme Court, but I disagree with Chief Justice Roberts; I'd love to know his rationale aside from what he wrote. As far as a legacy, take of today in an honest manner, and to the best of your ability, and your legacy will take care of itself. Churchill would agree with me on this, the last line, at least.
correction: "as far as a legacy, take CARE of today"
haze,
Speak to us!
Speak to us!!
My concern is the "gateway" this creates for the government to legally invade one's private matters. Envision a Trojan Horse full of IRS agents parked in the living room of every human being in the USA. That's what bothers me the most.
hello IVAN! Hope you have an enjoyable weekend, a restful weekend, as well. p.
was America a "Nobler Place" back in the "IKE" era? I keep felling so. Seems to have sold out to the highest bidder since then, what with the company names on public places, paid for only to get a naming right. "Give me the BEST and BRIGHTEST" used to be the call to Washington. Now it appears to retain something a bit less, so that we might be turned to a 'for profit' institution to complete the services. And yet, Politicians spend a ginormus amount to get a job for the same Government they say IS the problem...and then they get rich as they make the problems worse....*sigh*
"Congress has a right to tax those who don't have health insurance and who rely on the system to pay for some or all of their services."
Even if that were true, they should then have had the brassies to pass that legislation. They didn't.
It is not the business of the supreme court to create legislation that congress did not have the courage to propose or the votes to pass.
That said, Mr. Romney had better have something more up his sleeve than the overturning of Obamacare or he will not and should not win.
So far, he has said nothing to inspire confidence.
Its all an Obamanation. I sit here, uninsured for a variety of reasons, too young for medicaid, too "affluent" for state aid, choosing every month between meds and food sometimes and I cannot believe the man was elected to begin with. I don't have a warm fuzzy feeling about Romney either, but once again as I have in almost every election of my life, voting against instead of for not confident at all in the result.
I see your points and respect your opinions. However- Social Security is a tax. Medicare is a tax. People who rent don't get a deduction for their rent therefore they are paying a larger tax that people who have a mortgage don't pay on the same wages. Such deductions make the tax code very complicated and often seemingly unfair but there is no choice regarding these issues. What I infer that Chief Justice Roberts did was "revive states' rights in the Medicaid ruling, he also rejected the principal legal basis the Obama administration invoked to justify the health-care overhaul, Congress's constitutional authority to regulate interstate commerce." I feel the debate will now be about how to pay for the program if it manages to stay intact before it really kicks in and the opportunity for each state to prepare to deal with the issue. I am a Libertarian in principle and see the flaws but I also know what I see everyday based on the system we have allowed to come into existence. People hiding their assets so they can get as much from Medicare as they can and not pay for healthcare or medicine. I've had small businesses and offered to pay for part of the healthcare and retirement and have been told by many that they do not want to have money deducted from their checks. When they got in trouble they went to the emergency room. Taxpayers and the Insured are paying for them one way or the other and some are not poor but many are and many more have pre-existing conditions. This is not going away. I think SCOTUS was saying Congress has to deal with this post haste.
Absolutely, ChefDeb--an "Obamanation" of the worst kind....
Park4- As long as the beautiful women of the Eye are talking to me even if they don't agree I am HAPPY. If you quit speaking then I would be crushed. ++++++++---------======= Stoney and the rest of the boys- I defer to Tommy Robbins- "Life is like a stew, you have to stir it frequently, or all the scum rises to the top." I am often not right or even wrong.
Not to worry TT. One more thing though - I have a hard time dropping this, with intelligent people because it's not easy to find as smart a group as this - so I throw this out: There's a huge difference, to my mind, between Medicare and Social Security as taxes, and this health care tax - unlike with SS and Medicare, this obamacare tax is levied on us for something we are not doing. If we don't do what the government wants us to do we will be taxed. That's wrong. That's not why we pay taxes. Ultimately, it's a fine, but it's not a fine, it's a penalty for not complying with the federal edict. But it's not a penalty, it's got to be a tax, or its unconstitutional. ... One thing, the anger people feel is real, and it's not going to dissipate, nor should it. We've been took, it was a bait and switch game played out in the Supreme Court, and anyone who's not angry about being manipulated like that by our government just isn't paying attention -- or is comatose or worse............. I have to go and make some good old American fried chicken. I really wanted fried chicken for dinner, even though it's kind of a lot of trouble to make - so like they say: if you want a helping hand you'll find one at the end of your arm - so now my hands and me, we're off to the kitchen to begin the ordeal.
"I think SCOTUS was saying Congress has to deal with this post haste."
Tommy ~
That's what he ought to have been saying: If this were to be submitted as a tax, it would be viewed as constitutional.
Then, the burden would have been placed back on congress where it belongs.
Instead, he changed the law. Not his job.
Politics.........heavy sigh..... All that can be accomplished here is the release provided by venting and experiencing the same cathartic moment over and over again. Offset by elevated blood pressure.
I'm probably being a square peg trying to fit in a round hole....yet again, so i'll try to catch up to you good folks down the road a piece.
You are a fine bunch of folks and I do appreciate what you all bring to the party. Just wanted you to know that if such things matter.
Peace out
John
PARK please may I come for dinner?
I was never trying to express a personal or legal detemination but establish that men and women in power sometimes make decisions that seem contrary to their own country's will, their own self interest and their legacies. Chief Justice Roberts will from now on live in constant suspicion with the conservatives who supported him and equally he has surprised those on the left who just last week labeled him a right wing stooge. Did the man do what he thought was right despite public opinion?
To Churchill and his endgame- "Formerly top secret British Government papers made public today said that President Franklin D. Roosevelt told Prime Minister Winston Churchill in August, 1941, that he was looking for an incident to justify opening hostilities against Nazi Germany. . . . On August 19 Churchill reported to the War Cabinet in London on other aspects of the Newfoundland [Atlantic Charter] meeting that were not made public. . . . "He [Roosevelt] obviously was determined that they should come in. If he were to put the issue of peace and war to Congress, they would debate it for months," the Cabinet minutes added. "The President had said he would wage war but not declare it and that he would become more and more provocative. If the Germans did not like it, they could attack American forces. . . . Everything was to be done to force an incident." Is this not at the very least if true unethical if not illegal? Or a wise strategy. Though as we look back in totality it ended well. One can debate making deals ith a devil like Stalin who turned out to be every bit as ruthless as Hitler. I just try to continue cogitating. And when I stated SCOTUS did what it had to do, I meant hand down a decision.
Do check out Gary Johnson, The Libertarian. He deserves a seat at the debates. Otherwise Pat Paulsen must speak from the grave- "No Taxes. Let's just tip the government 15% if they do a good job." & ...."I must choose my words carefully in order to avoid any negative interpretation. Among politicians, this is a tactic known as lying." Wow, my head hurts...my fingertips are sore...It's HAPPY HOUR!!!!Umm-working on your book-Ivan if we ever needed a blessing it's now. PL-You always seem to be smiling and that does matter!!!-Mahalo
Einstein failed mathematics as a youngster...then went on to discover E=mc2. School is not a determiner of passage or failure in society. Our schools are not what they should be; they do not teach one logic, they do not teach one critical thinking, they do not teach one to be human or humane. Parents can often be one's biggest critic...or one's biggest fan. We should look to the deficiencies in our social structure before we "label" a child as a success or failure, else risk being proven wrong.
Inky....Nailed it right on!!!! Thank you
InkyTinky---yup! we all like to believe in the Norman Rockwell family portrait school, but the truth is, as you said, it isn't always so............and therefore, we have had some great people and some really real losers! It's quite a trip for a parent's ego to think their progeny succeeded because of them.....quite often it's in spite of them!
ChefDeb: absolutely! It won't be as good as yours, though, but you're always welcome if you're willing to take a chance!
My view, is surely over simplistic. I don't understand how people who cannot afford heath insurance, can afford to pay additional taxes for not having health insurance. Someone clue me in, please. Not long ago, there was talk of a flat tax; and or fear of a flat tax. What makes sense? And is it fair? Seems like the healthcare crises could answer these questions collectively; if given a chance...it doesn't seem, "the collective" has had the opportunity to develop. I hope good old fashioned chicken pot pie is being served in the club car tonight.
I hope there is a chicken in every pot pie.
Or one running around outside laying eggs.
Park4 & ChefDeb............I'll bring lots of napkins if you supply the fried chicken........yum!! One of life's pleasures too often neglected. ((I hate the clean-up!! and gettin' spit at in the process!)) You go girls! I'll also bring wine......???? please? please? please?!
Bring lots of ice...is HOT here on the coast of NC. Headed to Savannah Yacht Club next weekend for the boys sailing regatta, now Laser 4.7 class. Me...I'm still afloat.
Grins!
got the biscuits & mashed potatoes, maybe some grilled corn too. Ice cream for dessert. Leftovers to thesepia train! Cheers!
Capt. N. 47 or 4.7 was always lucky.
Meanwile, back on topic - our Winnie, the old tart, served the country (UK) well. I think his most redeeming characteristic is that he made no pretence of being perfect.
You all said it so nicely.I'm going to sleep. Night all!
Penn, essentially nothing will change for the poor, they can walk into any hospital and get excellent care, in patient or out, free of charge. Surely the very poor can't pay a penalty, they'll go on as before. Medicaid. This new tax will I think affect those in the formerly known as middle incomes, the ones Obama promised "NO NEW TAXES on the middle class - just the upper one percent (over $250,000 was the number) - anyhow, from what I've tried to understand, the new rich folks will make $50,000 and over, and this is the who will be affected one way or another by the healthcare tax, along with all the "rich people" who're already footing the bill - now there will be more people in the pool being taxed to pay for Obama"care" for all. Welcome to being considered rich when you're raking in all of $50 grand. And while nobody knows quite how much this obamatax is going to cost everyone in this country, it will cost plenty, we will all pay it, don't get elated if you don't see any difference in withholding this year, the really bad stuff, the true cost of the "care" will kick in, in 2014. Then we'll know how badly we were taken, and how much it will really hurt us, in loss of money, but moreso in loss of personal liberty, personal choice, and who knows what else. ** Nobody can argue that we need a rational, patient-centered, personal healthcare reform law in this country - but in my opinion, what we absolutely do not need is socialized medicine as it exists in Europe and elsewhere. ** Okay I'm done now. Penn, you can stop pretending to be listening....;)
Yes, ya'll come. Fried chicken, my husband's secret potato salad (excellent stuff!), beer, wine, hard stuff, watermelon, brownies and homemade vanilla ice cream, and more ice than there is in Greenland. And music and some songs and a promise from all of us, me included, RELAX and enjoy the night....it's finally cooled off here just enough and I'm feeling the promise of a perfect summer evening. PeterLake, you come back here. I'm thinking we'll need an adventure later on, when the stars turn on...
Hello Captain N...you got here right on time - it's good to see you and hear you're still afloat - although no one ever doubted you would be.
Well past duvet time in Wales - will somebody save me some fried chicken and secret potato salad in the fridge for my lunch tomorrow?
Nos da, dear people, and a special one to Ivan, this being Friday Nite x
The skies are dark, the rain, wind and lightning, are cooling Pittsburgh to a low 70 degrees...I will bring the 9 layered salad, Peach wine, and a cold bucket of ice...to the club car...otherwise I will be sleeping on the front porch tonite...
The scoundrals at faux news must be overjoyed for all the mis-information they foment!!! The "tax/penalty" is only for those who make 184% above poverty and refuse to buy insurance---like they won't need it....
RY: just who are these people?
Park ~ Congressmen. We buy insurance for them because they are so selfless serving our needs.
I am coming over for the PARK/ CHEFD fried chicken & mashed potato extravaganza ( by the way dan quayle, if you are reaing this, I completely understand why you put the e in potatoe, it so belongs there!)......mmmmmmmmmmmm................................I will eat until I'm a tick..................
Been gone for a month & have enjoyed the posts. Loving hotdogs I can say w/ some certainty who won the weiner award for yesterday's posts...........bwaaaaaaaaaaaahahaha...............that was a loaded weiner w/ the works............I bet PL would agree...........& I would bet the weiner winner doesn't even know they won....................
PARK...............I have mentioned The Rules of Civility so much that I thought someone would surely tell me to shut up & then I look & your goddess like self brings it up & describes it PERFECTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When I read it I thought I had discovered the novel for the very first time. I swooned............................................
CHEFD.........I feel like Sally Field, "You like me, you really like me! I miss you! & JANE, JANE, JANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CAROL is correct the MARIGOLD movie is wonderful, beautiful, & Judy dench could get any man I don't care how young....................I took my mom because she was dying to go & I loved it.................
PENN.........I'm glad you asked that question, it was lurking around my brain, but you put it into words. When I taught older kids I would always say there is no stupid question & I guarantee that several people are going, thank goodness.....I was too shy to ask that.
So, are we asking the village for stuff? Cool, I need some gin, a Richard Avedon photograph of Nastassja Kinski w/ the snake ( my brother owns it & ignored my pleas to give it to me.................I'm not gay, but she was just so beautiful.......the kind of beauty where you wonder how & why.........................when I stayed w/ my brother it was hanging in the guest room & I just stared until I fell asleep.......................it's the only photo of a snake I can look at w/ out being freaked out....................)& a giant bottle of gin...............anyone, pony up!
So, a tiny story, I know I've used up more than my share of space......................my mom has shingles, so I spent June in Asheville w/ her. I stocked her freezer w/ meals, made G & T's & poured cream sherry, we watched Masterpiece Theater & since she gets no channels....this goofy show that's good called Burn Notice.....................We read many Donna Leone: Brunetti mysteries..............I cried yesterday at 7 in the morning when I pulled out of her driveway...................I got home & my husband feels really awful...........today we went to the Urgent Care clinic.............HE has shingles & our AC went out & our AC guy never made it today so we are roasting in our juices........................I am drinking a lot..........why not, it's in the 90's inside.........................them's tricks.....................
STONEY, I had a stoney story happen....................PAOLOS, are you still "on top of the Titians?".............................
Mzan, that's humiliatingly long..........apologies around.,..................the heat has destroyed my brain...................
Just watched the first installment of "The Newsroom". I liked it. Jeff Daniels is crazy good. Sam Waterston is superb.
Justices on the supreme court are to use theit learning, knowledge, experience etc to write their decisions and to not be a political lackey or an extension of some political party. If the decisions offend some that is just the way it is. I have a friend that is a retired judge and he has told me that when a trial was based on a judicial decision that if both sides were somewhat pissed off he had reached a good decision. Social security was going t0 to be the ruiniationof the country, then medicare would destroy us , the intergration of the army, navyand marines would cause the collapse and ruination of our armed forces. None of this happened so maybe wait a little and see how the health care thing plays out. After all it is based on the plan Romney had enacted when he was Gov of Mass. Yet he is now against it. POLITICS!!!!As far a as judge Roberts and president Obama goes I doubt thtat there was some sort of unholy alliance between the two.All these political predicitions rrmine me od watching ESPN a few days bevore whrn the sportscsters argue abot who will win the super bowl, the world series , the Kentucky Derby or whatever.They tell you how the event wiil be played out who wiil do what and the final outcome. The only thing they get right is one of thwn does pick the winner but most of the rest of what he or she said is generally way off.
Bebe---glad you're back...hope you can cool down soon--in KS. we are hot, hot, hot--108+, but our AC is working....please read Marigold Hotel, you'll love it! Keep pouring the gin, take a deep breath and cool off!
Churchill said it best:
"When you're going through hell, keep going."
The motto of my life.
hi BEBE!! I'm so very glad to see you, don't you dare go away again - although mom-daughter time is a precious thing and I'm happy you and she made the time for each other...and those damn shingles, my husband got them, once, his mother got them twice, and his two sisters always have them it seems. Always in times of stress, although all of them deny being stressful. I know better: the body has its ways of telling you what's up even if your mind refuses to admit it to itself - does that make sense? My husband got it one 4th of July weekend when our air conditioner went out and just try to get an a/c guy to come out on the 4th. So for 3 days we fried, and him with shingles. Memorable for all. But anyhow, love your Weiner Award winner, agree said winner hasn't got a clue, which makes it funnier or sadder, I don't know which. So drink up, but try to stay cool, my sympathies to your husband, it's evil those shingles - SO glad you're back. They like you, they really like you...a whole lot and then some. xx
Park4! I'm, listening! Healthcare is such a huge topic and difficult to understand with all the scenarios involved. Thank you for some light on the topic. I still wonder why healthcare isn't in the bailout category of the "too big to fail banks."
BEBE is BACK, oh yeah!