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12 Angry Men

January 20, 2012

Not a single one of them nominated.

Not Ed Begley, Lee J. Cobb or Jack Warden for Best Supporting Actor.

Not Henry Fonda, who single-handedly persuaded every juror to vote for acquittal against ridiculous odds, for a Best Actor nomination.

And you wonder why they were all so angry.

This continues our series on movies that got robbed at the Oscars — which, if you're planning a party, is Sunday, February 26.

True, the 1957 movie directed by Sidney Lumet, which started off life as a television drama from a script by Reginald Rose, was nominated for Best Picture, but did lose to “The Bridge on The River Kwai.”

With the exception of the opening scene and the closing scene, the movie is notable for its almost exclusive use of one set — the jury room.

It's also notable for its "non Academy Award" winning script:

Juror #10: Bright? He's a common ignorant slob. He don't even speak good English.

Juror #11: Doesn't even speak good English.

Fonda as Juror #8:

“It's always difficult to keep personal prejudice out of a thing like this. And wherever you run into it, prejudice always obscures the truth. I don't really know what the truth is. I don't suppose anybody will ever really know.”

The American Film Institute named Juror 8, 28th in a list of the 50 greatest movie heroes of the 20th century.

In 2007, "12 Angry Men" was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant."

Although every single actor in the film deserved an Academy Award, as did the director, the script, and anything you can name, this favorite for an Oscar did not succeed in winning one.

Justice denied.

But later reversed upon appeal.

J. Peterman

 

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January 20, 2012 12:05 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

One of my all-time favorite movies.

January 20, 2012 12:09 AM
293 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 rings90 said...

One of my Favorite Henry Fonda roles ever.

There's just soemthing SO insistant in his manner about how carefully one needs to make sure that some decisions have not been "taken" because its convenient.

Maybe this film should be mandatory viewing for all juries before they sit on a case?


January 20, 2012 12:30 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

Have not seen it in a spell, so I just added 12 Angry Men to my Netflix queue.

'Course, I could buy it online for under ten bucks.

January 20, 2012 12:37 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

One of the juries I served on was in a municipal court.

Man was accused of illegally parking his car.

He fought the ticket and represented himself in court.

We reached a verdict, determined his penalty.

I returned to the office.

Fellow workers asked me how we ruled.

Told 'em we found the guy guilty.

Fellow workers asked me what penalty we imposed.

Said I:

Gave him the death penalty.

January 20, 2012 6:25 AM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

A Great Flick !!!!!!!
 
With every bit as much significance and import as, TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD ... The over-riding drive, I feel ... is Reason ....... Henry Fonda's soft but considered delivery, and the reactions of each of the different "Types" on that Jury, made it all seem so real, that one can easily forget that he is watching a Picture Show ... even tho' it does drag a little ...  as the angst builds among and around the Jurors, it is a genuinely entertaining Picture ...
 
GREAT  Flick .......

January 20, 2012 8:00 AM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

Good Morning lotlot, Rings and Ivan. 
 
IVAN ~ I like the bow tie.  It would go well with a proper set o'
braces also. 

Frozen gel packs indeed!

 

 

Y'all have a mighty fine day.  I am
still deliberating.  
 

January 20, 2012 8:13 AM
Pecos_tommy 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Ol' #5 Jack Klugman is the only juror still around (sadly) & in the age of action and eyewash it would be hard to make a dialog driven film where all but three minutes of the film is shot inside the bare and confining, sixteen by twenty-four foot "jury room". Love this film but Bridge was the right choice in my opinion and Sir Alec Guiness was stellar. Do not speak to me of rules. This is war! This is not a game of cricket!

January 20, 2012 8:21 AM
Poison_dart_frog_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Miss Blue said...



"12 Angry Men" was required viewing and reading (with each student assigned a part for
class recital) in my daughter's 8th grade class; Civics, literature,
history, psychology, sociology, and elocution rolled into one. That's why we
pay for private school.



January 20, 2012 9:25 AM
28961 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 Ummgawa said...

I have a few modern day offerings to the "the Oscars are rigged" conspiracy.

4. Val Kilmer in "Tombstone".

3. Jim Carrey in "The Truman Show".

2. George Clooney in "Oh Brother, where art thou?"

and number one:

James Whitmore in "The Shawshank Redemption"

January 20, 2012 9:25 AM
8251 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Kentucky Curmudgeon said...

http://fija.org/

Here's a link that demonstrates just how far off the original path we have strayed from proper jurist prudence. Of course I could be wrong...

January 20, 2012 9:26 AM
28961 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 Ummgawa said...

These guys should have won but did not.

January 20, 2012 9:29 AM
P1010179 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1 S. A. J. Johnson said...

Maybe I'll find 12 Angry Men on a pirate movie website and watch it, before that becomes impossible. Har har.  (I used to have netflix, but refuse to purchase a Windows or a Mac operating system and therefore cannot use their streaming video because of the protections they impose... but that's yet another tangent).

January 20, 2012 9:29 AM
8251 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Kentucky Curmudgeon said...

Ummgawa ~ I agree...Val Kilmer was probably a better Doc Holiday than Doc Holiday his self...'I'm your huckleberry'...

January 20, 2012 9:39 AM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

Ummgawa ~  The Shawshank Redemption might be my favorite of all those mentioned.  So beautifully done and, it pretty much followed the story as written by Stephen King, one of my favorite all-time writers -- I'm reading his latest now.

January 20, 2012 9:41 AM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

KC ~ agreed

January 20, 2012 9:42 AM
4188 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photo Penelopetx said...

KC ~not a very active website - FIJA - 3 guests on it were probably us!

January 20, 2012 9:52 AM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Old #8, clear-eyed and determined: one good man trying to make eleven others better.

As a practical matter, jurors in our county are selected from either a list provided by the state dept. of transportation (drivers) or property tax payers.
Quite a few over-eighteen citizens are thus eliminated but there it is.
Before deliberations began to consider the guilt or innocence of a man for a crime nobody on the jury completely understood, juror #2 took it upon himself to summon the bailiff to complain that one of the twelve, a downtown street person but not homeless, met none of the selection criteria.
The jury foreman, a little late in tumbling to what was happening, pointed out to the juror that the panel was what the panel was and sent the bailiff packing: "Get out!"
Then, he sent #2 to change seats with #11 a Madame Defarge type knitting away in soft pinks and blues into a wicker basket.
Going around the table, it was like pulling teeth to get an opinion from everybody and one, the questionable qualifier, passed on the first two attempts.
On the third, he rose and said: "I gotta pee," to which the foreman, producing a key, responded: "And you may have this as soon as you have given us your two cents worth."
He did:
"First," he said, "the witness for the prosecution could not have been where he said that he had been: that library branch had closed from two to four for a funeral.
Second, he could not have walked to the bridge in the time he said he did because I am half his age, twice as fast and I can't.
Third, the drawbridge was stuck open and he could not have got across.
Fourth, if he had, he could not have seen what he said he saw from where he said he was standing.
Fifth, if everything had happened as he said it had and it could not have, the defendant (who had served as his own counsel)  was a head and a half too tall to stand up where he said he saw him standing."
With that, he snatched up the key and finding that the restroom was unlocked, appeared to swallow it.
He was in there a long time during which several suddenly engaged jurors confirmed parts of his assertions to a point where a not quilty verdict was inevitable.
I never again saw the spare key to our garage though.





January 20, 2012 9:53 AM
8251 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Kentucky Curmudgeon said...

Penelopetx ~ That's kinda the point...something as important as 'a jury' that gets so little attention. Unlike the Kardashians..............

January 20, 2012 10:01 AM
28961 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 Ummgawa said...

Andy, The Shawshank Redemption is my hands down favorite movie of all time. When it came out, it was initially voted "the dumbest movie title of all time" strangely enough, so was "The Hudsucker Proxy", also with Tim Robbins. It just basically flopped at he box office.

I went to see it in the theater. I know now that I am an exception rather than the rule to that, but I told as many people as I could to go see it just to be "aww-pshawed"by them. How could a movie with a dumb title be a good movie?

I do like the fact that Andy and Red do reunite at the end, unlike the short story by Mr. King. Kinda gave it a right conclusion.

January 20, 2012 10:23 AM
4188 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photo Penelopetx said...

Umm - it was a great movie, loved the SCENERY at the ending.  Who would not want to live there!  (If not for the cartels, etc.)  I enjoyed it at the Theatre and have watched it several times since then.  I like Tim Robbins body of work. 
 
KC ~ perhaps they should make "12 Angry Men" available on that website.... So many people don't want to serve, I have been summoned to jury duty and once summoned for Grand Jury Duty.  Never made it past the big room full of people.  I never try to get out of it, I get the free bus ride downtown, but Never have gotten chosen, no stories about my experience, just got a bus ride, chatted with strangers and read a book....
 
Now, my Mom has been chosen before, a couple of times.  She came home from one experience and told me about the time she was chosen to be on a jury for a case where a woman was suing her employer for Workers Comp, she was a secretary for the company and had to quit her job because her back hurt and wanted compensation. 
 
The jury heard the case and was going to find FOR her when my Mom said, "If her back hurts, why is she wearing HIGH heels?  My back hurts and I CAN'T wear high heels because of it."
 
And the jury decided against the plaintiff.
 
One angry woman, my Mom....

January 20, 2012 10:23 AM
Photo 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

KC, imagine having any of the Kardashians selected to be on a jury of your peers.

Ummgawa....spot on with Val Kilner as Doc

Andy, hope you enjoy the new King book. I sure did. It quickened many memories of what it was like back in '63

Well I'm gonna r u n n o f t and check out the snow blower to be ready for the snow that is on the way.....

January 20, 2012 10:27 AM
4188 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photo Penelopetx said...

R U N N O F T - have fun Peter!  That was a great movie too, the Sound track  is one of my favorites.

January 20, 2012 10:27 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Juries and panels for deciding who gets nominated for an Oscar are corruptible. If the 12 angry men were not angry in the first place, I bet they were later on.
Last jury I served was a case of a father accused of sexually abusing his two teenage daughters. Lord knows how his lawyer swung it, but at the very last minute, the girls withdrew all charges and testified in court as to how wonderful their father was. Heigh ho.

January 20, 2012 10:30 AM
Pecos_tommy 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Got The Fountainhead on TCM as we speak. Gary Cooper is so cool. He says so much when he says so little. Courtroom scene at the end is peachy keen. I believe the song Along Came Jones used his persona as the theme of that quirky little ditty. slow walking jones slow talking jones not to be confused with Cheech and Chong's Basketball Jones.

January 20, 2012 10:47 AM
Walker_gym 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoFirst-review Luddite said...

TT    BASETBALL JONES ... no K   :))) 83 in a row baby .. 83

January 20, 2012 10:48 AM
Walker_gym 10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photoFirst-review Luddite said...

Oh, and TCM is "The Bob" :))))

January 20, 2012 10:51 AM
Img00274-20110613-1309 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 l marjorie said...

I remember stumbling across 12 Angry Men on TV when I was a teen.  Loved it and never forgot it.
 
In my mind the Oscars are rigged award goes to Willem Dafoe in Shadow of the Vampire. What a role he played.  The best supporting actor award that year went to Benicio Del Toro for Traffic. That was a great film, but Dafoe deserved the award. I always figured Del Toro won it because his character built the baseball park at the end of the movie.

January 20, 2012 10:55 AM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

PL ~ I am enjoying it and yes, I'm remembering too.  I was 15 in 1958 and remember all the music, the dances and was so envious of Sue who's mother made her a poodle skirt.

January 20, 2012 11:34 AM
P8041286 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300First-comFirst-photoHr-1 IvyGailWinds said...

Yesterday, I posted a scribble on Gold Honey..this is one writing i am trying to improve...any help to get this writing enhanced....you are welcome to change improve...or even comment:..."Ginger...it is hopeless.."...if anyone would like to help me...with this feeling prose...but its not prose..its rockbottom...feelilngs...ok ....i will check back at 10:00 pm....I had a good friend, who was a Catholic Sister,,,she had won the Humantarian Award of the Year back in the 1980's....she was a mentor to me, too....she gave me a big talk about judging people...
 This is a thought on todays' topic.....do not be so quick to judge....don't judge....try not to judge........namecalling ....the easiest way to avoid hurting people feelings do not use adjectives to describe someone...in creative writing that is a big challenge........Angry, grumpy, and onery...are a few adjectives.....Juries act caveat for unfamiliar people, juror acts like a caveat emptor...juror have a great responsiblity....
Also, i found my Warhol: newspaper clipping from 1998; i posted this memory of my story on my Sea Island Lady II posts... my identitiy pic is posted with this pic

January 20, 2012 11:39 AM
Pecos_tommy 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

L- Here it is...I got a Basketball Jones. One on One against the world!   http://youtu.be/JIbp5C-5WXM

January 20, 2012 12:04 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

12 angry men in the movies? Why? was the butter machine stuck at the popcorn counter?

January 20, 2012 12:06 PM
Pecos_tommy 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

SIL- Nice. I have the Warhol Mickey House Business Card Holder I got decades ago somewhere sometime.

January 20, 2012 12:06 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

getting jurors to agree is harder than getting unanimous approval on pizza toppings

January 20, 2012 12:07 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

well, it is lunch time...

January 20, 2012 12:24 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 rwh1 said...

Having been on several juries I have found that ,every time, it was an interesting and to a degree an ecucational experience. After one trial where the defendant was without a doubt guilty and was just a really bad guy one of our fellow jurors said that everyone should serve on a jury during a trial as we just had and then stop and think that if you do something really bad then for the next 10 to 20 years you will be living withs everal hundred guys like this. Should make one think twice before doing something real bad.

January 20, 2012 12:59 PM
10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photo Cassiepants said...

I have never made it all the way onto a jury, but I came close once. As the attorneys were explaining the case, I realized a prejudice that I had never even known was in me. Shaking like a leaf, I raised my hand when the judge asked if anyone had any prior experience which would make it impossible for them to be impartial.
 
Though I was somewhat ashamed of my bias, the judge was nothing but kind to a 20-something girl trying to be honest about her experiences. I was released from the pool with their thanks.
 
Thanks, KC for sharing the link...I wonder how many people have ever seen that. I know I had never heard of the Fully Informed Jury Assocation...

January 20, 2012 1:12 PM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Tommy ~
Funny you mentioned Gary Cooper: stuck in a train club car, (it should happen to everybody once) owing to an overturned tanker truck on the line ahead, a discussion ensued over whom, had Henry Fonda never been born, could have played #8.
After an hour, when the drinks were reduced from half price to free we were obliged to relinquish our seats to the ladies and repair to the vestibule with our own bottle of scotch, the soda generator, a bucket of ice and whatever anyone wanted to smoke… it is worth noting that, age permitting, you would have been right at home.
Some of the nominees were speciously offered just to stir the pot and it got a little heated when Glenn Ford was summarily dismissed as too short and sounding like an upstate village.
In the end, Coop edged Jimmy Stewart 4-3 and we (including a catholic nun enjoying a clear beverage not believed to be water) sang songs from Oklahoma… "but it's summer and we're runnin' out of ice."

Miss Blue ~

Too true. Perfect link.

January 20, 2012 1:20 PM
Img00274-20110613-1309 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 l marjorie said...

I've never made it onto a jury either. I've shown up, but never made it past the waiting room.  One time, I was called down to the criminal counts building down on the south side of Chicago. It was Jan 4, the first calendar day of the new year (this was probably about 15 years ago).  The place was packed. I got there kind of late and saw there was a very long line of folks waiting to get into the building--they all had to go through the metal detector.  So I went up to the front of the line and told the officer I was there for jury duty and he let me in. 
The bailiff announced that it was a busy day and that most likely all of us would be called in.  I had brought some work with me so set about my business.  By 2:30 in the afternoon they sent me home (I think I was one of maybe 3 people who weren't called).  The good news was that one of our favorite restaruants, Bacchanalia on Oakley down on the south side, was not too far from the courthouse, so I was able to bring home a wonderful dinner. Shrimp Bacchanalia.  Heaven on a plate.

January 20, 2012 1:42 PM
1521 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 Shandonista said...

Wherefore art thou, Dread Pirate Roberts?

January 20, 2012 2:07 PM
Pecos_tommy 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Stoney-Yes, my kind of evening kind sir...I'll drink to that. The tracks got covered with snow in Colorado once and it took me 2 days to get to the station in Napierville. Made a few temporary permanent reminders.

January 20, 2012 2:13 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

Judge and Jury at The Academy have always been known for giving awards for other things aside from the specific nominated role. Sometimes its for previous work that should have been awarded or noble earthly endeavors or living through an emergency tracheotomy. And as I saw just last night on an interesting documentary about Producer Jerry Weintraub, when given the information that Matt Damon had attended Harvard but not been graduated, he said "You want me to get you a diploma? There's always a guy."

At least in Hollywood, there is always a guy. So the Oscar goes to.......

January 20, 2012 2:14 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

TT&S~    is that why our Moms always said "wear clean undies..."

January 20, 2012 2:25 PM
Poison_dart_frog_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1 Miss Blue said...

and always carry spares

January 20, 2012 2:33 PM
Pecos_tommy 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

RY-MB/I just turn mine inside out-all jokes aside that new quick dry fabric is great for rinsing and dry by morning. Travel clothing has so improved.

January 20, 2012 2:40 PM
Img00274-20110613-1309 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 l marjorie said...

I never got stuck on a train, but I did get stuck in Greenland once.  Honest!  I went there with my Dad and sister back in 1969. We flew over on an excursion from Iceland and our plane was damaged when it landed (very rough landing).  It was determined that the plane could not take us out, so they had to bring in another plane to rescue us.  We were on a little island off the coast, Kulusuk.  We were there in late June, so it was light the entire time we were there--none of us slept.  I was only 14, so there were no adult beverages involved for me, but a little party had started and there was music and dancing.  One thing I remember is that the local Inuit were watchig our little party through a window and the local Danes closed it off in their faces so they couldn't watch. The other thing I remember is that the back of my pants had ripped open and I was unaware of it.  I was dancing to some music with my underware showing. Finally, a gentleman alerted me to the situation, so I wrapped a coat around my waist to hide the flaw. I was so annoyed at my sister for not telling me about it.  She said that she thought it might be better if I was ignorant of the situation.  I never believed her, I think she was mad at me because I was dancing with the only youngish bachelor on the trip.

January 20, 2012 2:48 PM
1-dscn1106-4 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

TT: I watched The Fountainhead this a.m. too.  I do so enjoy that film.  Cooper is cool, way cool, and Patricia Neal is hot, white hot, under her particular shade of cool.  It was a lovely morning: me, in bed, with my coffee and Gary Cooper, and then the snow began to fall outside the window, like soft powdered sugar.  Mmmm.  It's still snowing, just like that, just like flour from a sifter, straight down.  Every day should begin this like this one...wouldn't that be loverly.

January 20, 2012 3:04 PM
1-dscn1106-4 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

As for "12 Angry Men," - that's an undeniably brilliant film.  Surprising, because the set-up is pretty simple: 12 actors and an almost bare set.   It takes the real thing, talent wise, to make a stellar movie  with so little enhancement - but those actors to a man, and Lumet, pulled it off seamlessly. ........................ Maybe it's odd, but first thing, when I hear a mention of "12" my mind goes to the spare set, and that window, with the rain coming down, and the feeling of stuffiness in the room, the humidity and cigarette smoke, it got worse and worse, jurors face's sweating, some wiping the sweat, some just glistening wet - they did such a good job of getting the temperature and atmosphere of that room across, when I watch the movie, I can feel a sense of suffocation.  Which is awfully unsettling, to say the least,  but it's a sure testament to the brilliance of the acting by the 12, and the directing by Lumet.  

more on the honor roll
January 20, 2012 3:09 PM
1-dscn1106-4 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Well:  I got stuck in Flagstaff Arizona once, during a grasshopper plague.  That's what they called it, a plague -- and they were everywhere, those grasshoppers.  And then after we got stuck, we got unstuck, and so we left.  The End. 

January 20, 2012 3:14 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

KYC ~ Bella, bellissima!  Congratulations.

January 20, 2012 3:16 PM
Img00274-20110613-1309 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 l marjorie said...

Grasshopper plague--Yuk!

January 20, 2012 3:19 PM
Pecos_tommy 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

P4- simply beautiful like Shel Silverstein poetry-
"come in for we have some flax-golden tales to spin. Come in. Come in."

January 20, 2012 3:21 PM
Pecos_tommy 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

P- please find Bill Withers' Lovely Day on UToob.

January 20, 2012 3:27 PM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


The move, "Twelve Angry Men," was not all that different from the teleplay we were shown on film in a 1958 civics class.
With its cheesy production values and mostly Playhouse 90 cast, it offered nothing in the way of distractions from the story which was great and seemed all the more so after jury service of my own.
The only time a movie ever conveyed oppressive heat and humidity any better was when Maggie "the cat" blotted her dewy cleavage.
Most jurors are determined to hold close their prejudices and do a pretty good job until somebody of opposing views gets their cork and then, it's Katie bar the door.

An acquaintance once called to ask me to alibi for him. He was infamous for having gotten a leg over on lots of women many of them married and I demurred explaining that I liked his wife better.
When later I saw her and asked after him, she said that she had dumped him when he had come home late… with his skivvies on backwards.

Shandonista ~

No kidding!

I marjorie ~
Ooohh

KYC ~
What Ivan said…

Park4 ~
One more reason, if one were needed, to embrace the North. A plague here is two.
It's flouring here as well.
Loved what you wrote up there.

January 20, 2012 3:29 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

Happy to TT
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYi7uEvEEmk
 
Do you want to send out a dedication with
it?

January 20, 2012 3:36 PM
Pecos_tommy 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Miss Park and all the lovely women who listen to WEYE fm.

January 20, 2012 3:41 PM
Img00274-20110613-1309 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 l marjorie said...

Stoney, Yes, it is flouring isn't it?  Never heard it put that way before. But I get it; soft flakes with no wind just flowing down covering everything with white powder. I'm glad I have nowhere I have to be tonight.

January 20, 2012 4:00 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

Deserving of an Oscar was John Cassavetes as number
eleven. 
All twelve were angry, but he smiled his way
through the anger.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeLOL__F3Jg
 
Scratch that, wrong 12.

January 20, 2012 4:10 PM
Photo 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

Hey Park.....let's go sledding. We've got cars sliding all over the place down here.... But that'll settle down shortly Looks like I'll have to do the driveway again in a couple hours if I'm going to get out.

Meanwhile, back to a dozen angry guys......

A great movie indeed. It felt almost like a play instead of a movie, but the drama of it sure had me feeling tuckered out at the end.

It's difficult to pit several movies against each other to evaluate and ultimately rank them? It Is so subjective under the best of circumstances and so predicated on politics and posturing on the down-side.

Maybe they should wait a decade before deciding..... See which one's pass the test of time, remain relevant, and/or still entertain.

January 20, 2012 4:11 PM
Photo 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

Why do I have a ? Mark at the end of the first sentence of the fourth paragraph...he wonders?

January 20, 2012 4:18 PM
Img00274-20110613-1309 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 l marjorie said...

Paolos, I love the Dirty Dozen!

January 20, 2012 4:50 PM
28961 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 Ummgawa said...

Also overlooked:

Brad Pitt in "Snatch". There are parts of that movie where, if you engage sub titles, parts of his dialogue are just question marks. It is not only a good movie by Guy Ritchie, but it is funny in a strange way.

January 20, 2012 5:03 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Mooseloop said...

Great movie and exercise in logical deduction....12 Angry Men....and a good expose of the tension in a jury room... I have been called 4 times and served once...I told of this before, so won't go into detail, but it was an Emory U. student accused of rape by two girls (runaways from a juvie detention )...and the jury found for him that the girls were lying....It seemed obvious to all of u, and we only stayed in the jury room for an hour so it would seem we gave it all of our attention. If you are a good judge of character, you can usually tell if someone is lying (especially young liars).

Just finished a good book if you like pondering the interrelatedness of all the world's religions, and the nature of human divisiveness over religion. It is "The Breath of God: A Novel of Suspense" and covers a PhD researcher's trip to India in search of the lost journals of Jesus from ages 13 to 29. The author is familiar with Emory U., Atlanta, Cashiers, NC, and Bhutan, India, and the whole story is about 400 pages of action, researching, and many of the major monk's lessons for life. It tends to stereotype the evangelicals, but is full of good thought-provoking ideas. It is not heavy intellectual stuff, but is good reading for us "hayseeds" (KSS) It is by Jeffrey Small, a professor at Yale, and is a first novel.

I read it on my new Kindle....and I liked that experience. Although, I kept trying to turn the pages!! Anyway, now I am on to "Death Comes to Pemberley."

On the way to Anna Maria Island now....taking 2 days in Tallahassee to see cousins....Here all settled into the Cabot Lodge. Life is Good.

January 20, 2012 5:19 PM
Pecos_tommy 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

After a long week, I invite y'all to join the Coopers and the Hemingways at The Stork Club for a few drinks and some nice conversation. Hell, we may even Tango. Time is irrelevant when you have imagination. Those of you who are snowed in, Tompall Glaser will put another log on the fire. How about some Waylon/Willie Outlaw music p-daddy?

January 20, 2012 5:19 PM
Photo 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

I'd like a Baker's dozen of Chocolate cake donuts and an ice cold glass of milk....while watching the Dirty Dozen which brings me to Lee Marvin in Cat Ballou

January 20, 2012 5:23 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

MMMMMMMMMMM--Doh nuts   -Homer Simpson

January 20, 2012 5:25 PM
Img00274-20110613-1309 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 l marjorie said...

And Brad Pitt.  He was great in Snatch, as well as 12 Monkeys.

January 20, 2012 5:26 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

ahhhhhh PL, You should see 'em from this side.....

January 20, 2012 5:30 PM
Img00274-20110613-1309 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 l marjorie said...

Ummgawa--I could barely understand a word Pitt says in Snatch-I like your comment about the question marks as subtitles.  Perfect.
 
I also have to say I love your name. I was a big Tarzan fan as a kid--Timba Ummgawa!

January 20, 2012 5:39 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

 

For the snowbirds...

 
http://www.youtube.com/embed/7KhSMKfU8HE?rel=0
 
 
Would ye be sharin' those donuts Mr. Lake?  I'll swap you two hot Krispy
Kremes for a real chocolate cake donut.

 

January 20, 2012 6:00 PM
10photoviewsCom-100First-comFirst-photo Cassiepants said...

I miss flouring. I'd sit in the window of the living room right above the heating vent - so I could feel the cold air trying to seep in from outdoors and stay warm all the same. When the snow falls in silence, it hides the world's imperfections and helps dreams stay alive a little longer... We don't have that in Los Angeles, but we do occasionally have the marine layer come in and hide everything. It wears off by noon-ish, but it's magnificent while it's here.

January 20, 2012 6:06 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...


 
I almost missed that one TOMMY boy.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJNSWkgPr9g And would ye be dedicating this one also to the Eye ladies? I'm just the messenger (this time).

January 20, 2012 6:14 PM
Paolo 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 paolos said...

As my mama used to say
 
This is what you get when you encourage
such behaviour.

 
I shoulda mentioned it yesterday.

January 20, 2012 6:18 PM
Pecos_tommy 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

As someone said yesterday, we are all Renaissance Men here but...remember ladies to have a sense of humor.

January 20, 2012 6:23 PM
Pecos_tommy 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

p-daddy that has splitteth my side. Time to open a bottle of the pinot grigio and hide. Shel Silverstein ranks with Kinky on those lyrics I must admit. Candy was angry at the end and rightfully so.

January 20, 2012 6:32 PM
Photo 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

Paolos, make it two-fer-two and you've got yourself a deal he says as he spits in the palm of his hand to shake and bind it

January 20, 2012 6:40 PM
Photo 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

I just finished snow blowing our sidewalks and driveways. The muffled sounds of silence that was left after I turned off the mean machine was wonderful. I think we have about six to eight inches on the ground already plus the drifting. Just beautiful at twilight time.

There was a short story televised in the '60s I believe. It was called The Silence of Snow and was a very sad but somehow beautiful story. It featured Maureen Stapleton and a young boy. The analogy of silent snow and death was somehow soothing. Does anyone else remember this story?

January 20, 2012 6:55 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

is that the one where it took 12 guys to shovel them out of the snow drift??   see how I tied that all together?

January 20, 2012 6:56 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

Sabath Blessings to all

January 20, 2012 7:49 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Thanks RY~ I believe our usual rabbi is away on other buisiness for the weekend, bou you do nicely in his absence. It's duvet time in Wales, so nos da, dear people. x

January 20, 2012 7:52 PM
Me_and_dave 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Andy said...

Thank you RY

January 20, 2012 8:40 PM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...

 
Anyone seen "Smilla's Sense of Snow" with Julia Ormond, Gabriel Byrne, Jim Broadbent, Richard Harris, the unconvincing Robert Loggia and little Clipper Miano a Philipino playing an inuit boy?
Must have seen it five or six times by now… not exactly "Miller's Crossing" but hard to resist.

January 20, 2012 8:49 PM
Photo 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

Stoney, I enjoyed the book and the movie, if it is on, i will watch it....but not if Miller's Crossing is too.

January 20, 2012 9:19 PM
1-dscn1106-4 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Sometimes I really wish I could wrap my arms around all you gentlemen, because you are so rare, and so very dear.  What a fine group you are.  We 'ladies' are absotively blessed to have you here, to know you...

January 20, 2012 10:42 PM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Group hug?
I'm in.

January 20, 2012 11:50 PM
Photo 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

PA4' , we are on our best behavior 'cos we are awestruck by the classy ladies of the EyE. I've got dibs for first in the hug line!

Have a great evening everyone!

January 20, 2012 11:53 PM
P8041286 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300First-comFirst-photoHr-1 IvyGailWinds said...

Southwestern Pennsylvania every student was a basketball jones...the girls were just as good at playing basketball as somewhat the..boys..it was mandortory, to know how to play...basketball and From my house, I use to cross the street to a neightborhood hoop..i played till the age of 25.i could easily dribble under my legs and spin the ball ...pass behind my back.....my older brother watched Mighty python..my mother did not approve of me to watch this tv program......and my older brother owned all the Cheech and Chong albums...I used to sing Basketball jones, how funny to recall this vintage video tv ....clip, tnanks Tommy Typical

January 20, 2012 11:55 PM
Pecos_tommy 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Awww shucks, Ma'am.
****
1957 brought us Western fans both 3:10 to Yuma and Gunfight at the OK Corral. My dad would talk to his favorites as if they could hear him; to warn them they were about to be shot.

January 20, 2012 11:59 PM
1521 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 Shandonista said...

I also liked Smilla, book and movie.   There is something very appealing about cultures living in such harsh conditions.  I doubt I have the guts to endure it, but the movies let me test myself, albeit a tame and lame test.   The Sahara has always held a fascination for me.  See The Sheltering Sky  or read the book and you'll understand.  Smilla is the same thing, only cold.  Each forbidding, testing a man's very limits (not unlike jury duty) and ultimately rewarding.  I dunno - maybe it's some crazy genetic thing~my hubby likes to tease me that I'm sturdy peasant stock (while I lug 75 pounds of groceries to thedoor) but perhaps the people who appreciate stories about other sturdy folks are just your basic survivors.....

January 20, 2012 11:59 PM
1521 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 Shandonista said...

I also liked Smilla, book and movie.   There is something very appealing about cultures living in such harsh conditions.  I doubt I have the guts to endure it, but the movies let me test myself, albeit a tame and lame test.   The Sahara has always held a fascination for me.  See The Sheltering Sky  or read the book and you'll understand.  Smilla is the same thing, only cold.  Each forbidding, testing a man's very limits (not unlike jury duty) and ultimately rewarding.  I dunno - maybe it's some crazy genetic thing~my hubby likes to tease me that I'm sturdy peasant stock (while I lug 75 pounds of groceries to thedoor) but perhaps the people who appreciate stories about other sturdy folks are just your basic survivors.....

January 20, 2012 11:59 PM
1521 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 Shandonista said...

I also liked Smilla, book and movie.   There is something very appealing about cultures living in such harsh conditions.  I doubt I have the guts to endure it, but the movies let me test myself, albeit a tame and lame test.   The Sahara has always held a fascination for me.  See The Sheltering Sky  or read the book and you'll understand.  Smilla is the same thing, only cold.  Each forbidding, testing a man's very limits (not unlike jury duty) and ultimately rewarding.  I dunno - maybe it's some crazy genetic thing~my hubby likes to tease me that I'm sturdy peasant stock (while I lug 75 pounds of groceries to thedoor) but perhaps the people who appreciate stories about other sturdy folks are just your basic survivors.....

January 20, 2012 11:59 PM
1521 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 Shandonista said...

I also liked Smilla, book and movie.   There is something very appealing about cultures living in such harsh conditions.  I doubt I have the guts to endure it, but the movies let me test myself, albeit a tame and lame test.   The Sahara has always held a fascination for me.  See The Sheltering Sky  or read the book and you'll understand.  Smilla is the same thing, only cold.  Each forbidding, testing a man's very limits (not unlike jury duty) and ultimately rewarding.  I dunno - maybe it's some crazy genetic thing~my hubby likes to tease me that I'm sturdy peasant stock (while I lug 75 pounds of groceries to thedoor) but perhaps the people who appreciate stories about other sturdy folks are just your basic survivors.....

January 21, 2012 12:02 AM
1521 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 Shandonista said...

Oh dear, I've finally berted. 

January 21, 2012 12:04 AM
Pecos_tommy 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

SIL2- you are welcome! Big C&C fan. Cheech is appearing on a sit com, ROB which is quite funny.

January 21, 2012 10:28 AM
10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Dribbling between the legs… a good thing or not?
Well, that depends.

January 21, 2012 7:49 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1 bebe said...

PARK...................you outdid yourself, really beautiful post..................I have never seen 12 A.M., but I will correct that..................
 
STONEY................I think Julia Ormond is really beautiful................there was a movie w/ her & Tim Roth ( I think), she plays a dentist who falls in love w/ a prisoner.............I stumbled across it & it's just sooooooooooooo good................
 
PAOLOS....................John Cassavetes was so beautiful....................

Honor Roll


As for "12 Angry Men," - that's an undeniably brilliant film.  Surprising, because the set-u...

-PARK4

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