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July 30, 2012
On this, the 105th and 31st day anniversary of one of the most important conflicts in American history, the Hamilton Burr duel, I thought it appropriate to confess (as a matter of honor), I was set to run this on its proper July 11 anniversary on, but it got bumped for mulch.
However, a very important mulch.
That confessed, the Alexander Hamilton Aaron Burr feud came to a head, or a duel, when Hamilton voted for Thomas Jefferson for president against an “unprincipled Burr,” though Burr was closer to his own Federalist beliefs than Jefferson.
U.S. citizens based their dueling codes on 26 commandments of the Code Duello of Ireland, which contained all aspects of a duel, even including even how to apologize for provoking a duel.
No apology would be needed here.
Burr challenged Hamilton to a duel, and Hamilton accepted, getting his choice of weapons: Wogdon dueling pistols.
The two, and their seconds met in Weehawken, New Jersey, overlooking the Hudson River.
The seconds had an important, nerve-wracking role under the code. If one of the participants didn’t show, the second had to assume his place.
No need for the seconds to worry; the participants were there on time.
Major Nathaniel Pendleton recited the code of conduct; both parties declared they were ready. Historians are somewhat hazy on who got off the first shot, but we do know Burr got off the best shot.
After the shot, if neither man was hit, and if the challenger stated that he was satisfied, he could declare the duel over.
We don’t know what would have happened here, since Hamilton was mortally wounded and died 36 hours later.
This duel did hasten stronger rules to end what Jefferson called, “a barbaric practice.” The practice continued in the south, where notions of individual honor still ran deep.
What of today?
First of all, if you are in Rhode Island, do not even challenge anyone to a duel.
Merely challenging a person to a duel will get you 1-7 years in jail, as will accepting the challenge, whether the duel is fought or not.
So far, 20 states have some statures prohibiting dueling. However, think twice, about a duel anywhere, as assault and murder laws can apply.
Now that we don't have duels to redress our grievances, how do we protect our honor against anyone besmirching our good name?
A violent game of Scrabble? Arm wrestling? (But better check on the local statutes.) Small space newspaper ad saying it’s not true.
Clearly, we need something.
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Maybe we could settle the presidential race with a duel.
Oh, that's right.
That's what we are doing.
The world's first billion dollar-plus duel.
Well, good morning! Here I am at 12:10 EST and the first to jump in.....I just shot all my thoughts on the origin of man in the previous topic's last post (I'd guess most are asleep here in this time zone.)
However, the first image that leapt into mind at the sight of the topic for today is the current duel of parties and men in the political battle over who gets to live in the White House next year!
What a duel, a person of no known pedigree or proven birth, nor any business experience VS a successful businessman with immigrant parents who worked hard to become a leader with a proven record. Hmmm, let's see how this duel will end in November. I'm guessing the incumbent will pull some slick move like replacing Biden with a smart person, so lots will depend upon how appealing is the VP nominee chosen by the real businessman. Stay tuned....America is in the balance. I'm pulling for Burr....er, Mitt Burry, er Aaron Romburr, or whatever his name is...the one who acts and sounds Presidential.
The only pistols stylish enough today to use in a Duel are 1911's. And one must wear gloves with fringe. I often wonder why the guys I meet never want to fight a Duel for my honor. Hmm maybe they think they are Rhode Island?
My favorite episode of Firefly is the one, where Captain Mal is in a sword Fighting Duel.
Don't duelling banjo's count? They still do that down south, don't they?
Modern duels are exciting...they appear on Sunday, and Monday night,and often,Thursday night as well...AFC,NFC,culminating in a Super Bowl, a duel of snack foods....
Road rage for some, computer games for others...there is even an online strategy game called "Defend your honour"
Moose...we won't have to worry about the Origin of Man after 20 Dec 2012 ... haha...
Personally, I think Dueling should be allowed, but I believe the Challenger should have to pay for a Permit, and all other Costs, to Sanction the Duel ... A complete Record of the event should be kept, in full detail, the story of what led to the duel, and an exemplification as to whom the Challenger is/was, and no wagering should be allowed ... Seconds and all Attendants should be Held Harmless, at every level of involvement, and Final Resolution should be in favor of the Victor ... In the event of a Duel in which Swords are the Weapon of Choice, and No Death occurs ... Resolution should be determined by he who is the Victor, on points ... or he to whom the Opponent concedes ... and All Resolutions should be Legally Binding ... Duels should be announced ten days ahead of time, Tickets sold, and all Receipts should go to the County in which the event is held, including Video Sales .......
It would certainly resolve a lot of disagreements, without anyone's unduly burdening Family and Friends, and there should be a little Machine, like in the Airport, where Duelists can purchase a Ten Thousand dollar Burial Policy, for a Nominal Sum, prior to their engagement (Cash Only --- No Credit Cards) And Travelers could also purchase a Policy, Good For The Length of their journey home, ONLY ... against mishaps that might occur on the way home from the Event ....... As for Duelists; No Refunds in the event of No Death
Kudos, as always, IVAN!
oooh..touche Ivan...
Can I come? Can I come?
"No refunds in the event of death" would make a great sign to post in a fast food joint.
Come on guys...what's next? Reinstating the public hanging???
This subject brings to mind a conversation I had with my first ex-husband.
I said, "I won't fight for you." to which he replied, "Why not?"
Honour is a funny thing...
Is ritual suicide as a means of restoring honour in death, when shame is unbearable, known in any western societies? There are some Chinese stories of that but the Japanese Harikiri or sepuku is the most well known. The less noise one makes when disemboweling yourself with the wakizashi, a short sword, the more virtuous you are. The final act comes from your close ally who finishes you off by decapitating you with his katana. To be asked to put your friend out of misery was itself a great honour. Because of this, Japanese military could not understand the concept of POWs, one either fought to their death or "die honourably"
...or "sati" the ritual suicide by widowed Indian women on the husband's funeral pyre, to keep her honour as a "chaste woman" and to uphold the honour of her dead husband. There is the belief that one who becomes a sati will become a diety and is worshipped.
Oh no....it's time for bed and I'm suddenly thinking ....What is honour??
A duel between the two candidates.....hmmmmmm. Oh, that's right, it still works out the same: nobody wins.
CarolB don't take us too seriously.
Chef Deb, I've told you before...it's a curse!!
Just stating facts!!
As is proved by the story...honor was about patriotism.
Do we not duel each day trying to state our beliefs and others trying to prove us liers?? White house duel, yes it's on.America WAKE UP, get our of your lazy attitudes and SAVE OUR PRECIOUS AMERICA!!!!
How about paintball guns at ten paces...blindfoldedand then spun around for a bit. The loser has to perform community service. Each participant must put up some money and the victor gets to pick the charity that benefits.
Pete=great idea!! I like it.
While on a canoe trip with Jon, Burt, and Ned years ago in Northern Georgia, we came upon a duel. They drew their banjoes and strummed and picked at a lightening pace. Alas little did we know it was a precursor to murder and intrigue and a worse fate for Ned. Deliverance comes at a high price.
If memory serves me and the history I read is true, Hamilton threw off his shot whereas Burr was shooting on the target range for weeks prior to the duel. Hamilton was a principled and brilliant man, and quick to anger. It is told that he had no intention of shooting Burr. His knowledge of Burr's intent was sorely lacking at the time most needed.
I think it is a fine line, but a steep drop off, between honor and false pride. One is a chip on the shoulder just waiting to be knocked off.
True honor cannot be diminished by others nor restored if you lose it.
As the Red Queen said...
You're right on target, Paolos. As far as the winner it is Hamilton all the way. Sadly, it happened to be all the way to the grave. We lost a very valuble and honourable man, and the one remain never really did have much honour. Peter Lake said it perfectly.
But just think of the saving of lives if national leaders had to do the duel thing instead of having wars!!! Sorry, no world war, Iran, you and Israel will just pick a duelist (President, Prime Minister?), and his second (VP, Sec. of State?), and you folks will square off, then both nations will abide by the results...No war, no nukes, no thousands of maimed and wounded, no more pulling the innocent into the battle! Just a duel (or better, arm wrestling....) between the leaders.
Somehow, I think that if all the world leaders were women, we'd think of a better way to solve differences between nations than the age-old concept of WAR....in which both sides lose.....a lot! What say, ye, Villagers?!
Here's that scene from Deliverance....The famous Dueling Banjos....memorable...
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dueling+banjos+movie+clip&mid=63DA2AF370AB5EFA5EBE63DA2AF370AB5EFA5EBE&view=detail&FORM=VIRE1
Spring --I can't think of a ritual suicide for honor in our culture. Most here prefer to suicide over time by over-eating, over-drinking, or over indulging in the drugs of choice.....some by gunshot, some by poison, some by swallowing an entire bottle of prescription meds, some by jumping off a high bridge, or out of a window of a tall building, but hardly for honor (except those who have bankrupted the family and can't face the consequences.) In my view, seeking a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
The idea of disemboweling oneself or having a close friend promise to behead you has not entered Western culture, thankfully! Neither has the honor killing or maiming of the Muslims, which seems to fall inordinately on the females of that group.!
" Excuse me, abusive husband, I'd like a divorce, so I can get educated and live my own life in peace, perhaps becoming a professional lawyer or doctor."..
".No, woman,that is absurd. I say you are to have your nose cut off, or to be executed for even mentioning that!"
Now there's an advanced civilization for you.
I like the idea of mudslingling. The rivals meet on the banks of a tidal river where the mud is smooth, sticky, gooey smelly and slimey. Let the protagonists hurl mud at 50 paces for 15 minutes, and it does not matter who 'wins' - both will be in fits of laughter and fogotten what they were arguing about.
forgotten?
I think life is a precious gift the taking of which should not to toyed with or taken lightly..except for wimps, pipsqeaks, fops, dandies and the dumb and/or ugly ,or other objective determinant, of course.
Chef Deb...I apologize, but here I go again!
I do not agree with PL...how about all those Muslim honor killings? just a glance can mean death for those women.
Rings you are a girl after my own heart, I shot a beautifully customized Springfield 1911 at demo days down at our local range a couple months ago, loved the action on it. And on Firefly "I remember certain words were exchange, and certain...bullets".
Peter Lake I was thinking squirt guns, paintball guns leave nasty welts, but they work too.
I keep thinking of the therapy tool that has been lampooned in tv shows and movies...squishy nerf style bats that you can whack each other with until you've worked out all your aggression. Or maybe those ridiculous inflatable sumo suits.
Re: the thought there would be no war if Wimmen were in charge ; ever seen divorced 'ladies' whose eYes burn like lasers when the mere mention of an 'ex' comes up in conversation?.. .. *shudder*
I don't Twit , but I hear 'twitter duels' are a stitch some times
Take it from an Old Warrior ... Without Victory, there can be No Peace ... Rebuilding a defeated adversary is stupid beyond reason ... Not even sure that is is sane .......
In a Compromise ... Nobody Wins ...
No Winner, No Victory ...
No Victory, No Peace ... Ever .......
Ivan...I heard a reference to that the other day...therefore my belief that domestic abuse will never be overcome as long as we are "humans".
Thus my real belief is exposed! All's fair in love and war!!!
Participated in a allowed, city permission, duel, in an actual authentic duel "dated" 1890..in .period custume...and supported the gentleman with capped musket gun who promised to duel to the death..kidding...play acting performance....for a South Carolina museum to help raise money for the new museum paint -job....the first duel in...so many hundred years..featured in the news, etc..fun actress assignment...and worthy fund-raiser....fun eyebrow raiser...public relations maneveur......too.....Thinking of swards: Wilkinson Sward has Pittsburgh roots...too....I knew the owner...too.investors...etc......exits with lime chiffon lace up... tunic, white cotton...ballywood pants outfitted to attend a good movie..this evening with family....and Holy, My Goodness, gracious..they filmed a UFO on the grand opening of the Olympics.in London.."tell me its' not so ."......".I don't want to believe...that this is reality.."..check opening page of aol.com they show the you tube video...and I did get confirmation again by two other witness on the Tangerine Lights.....and further interested on what the orange Tangerine lights are.....OMGoodness!!!...Ta Dah! Gotta get to my sewing self-assignments...weather cool nites...enjoying summertime...yahoo! ...Nachista...enjoyed reading many of your creative posts....
BesNachista - the Money Angel says that about the 1911. I however do not like the grips on most of the ones I have tried. I do like shooting them tho...
Being the Hopeless Romantic, I still find duels to be the best way to Sweep me off my feet :-)
Thing is, women do have some hugely powerful and influential roles in government world-wide, yet they've not succeeded in ending war any more than their male counterparts. I think it's easier said than done, sadly...but think: can you imagine going over to Syria and saying "Stop all that genocide now" and join us at the table like civilized folks" -- they'd just do it? They've been asked, and they don't, or they do, and they go back and kill more of their own. I think the problem is more about uncivilized people not being able to get along in a world where uncivilized behavior has become not just unacceptable, but far too dangerous to tolerate.
I do not recall saying anything positve about honor killings in my posts Carolbabcock My reference to the Red Queen was to argue that lost honor cannot be restored if you lose it as she demonstrated no matter how much punishment she meted out.
The terrible acts you describe that have happened to Muslim women is sexism, slavery, power by fear, and horrible cruelty that nobody in this village can abide. It sickens us all and i doubt anyone would make lite about. It surely was not my intent.
Nachista....i think those big water-blasters they have now would serve nicely.....with Easter-egg dye.
Rings...that's why you customize! Who says a gun has to be stock?
RoadYacht there was a fun twitter duel between "This American Life" and a comedian (I believe it was Patton Oswalt but don't quote me on that). Apparently Steve Martin has had some memorable twitter jousts as well.
How can you not love a blog with a name like this http://duelingbutterknives.blogspot.com/
Yes, Peter. To beat a dead horse...that was my point. The perception of the offended ones does not make it so.
The Code Duello had very delineated unambiquous rules for dueling. Duels were not entered into lightly and each participant had the full knowlege he might not return from the field. If a participant thought to shoot into the air or very wide of the mark--they should have apologized and settled before coming to the field. Expiation by blood between two individuals settled the score--and participants were given ample opportunity to apologize before any blood letting began. Barbar Holland has written an interesting book on the history of dueling.....I've just read a bit, because it's currently unavailable on Kindle. She generalizes quite a bit, but nonetheless, in the bits I've read she draws some interesting conclusions. ..........and the rest I had to say, see Ivan above.
Community! Are we all swimming in the shallow end of the gene pool today? Since when was the taking of life the perogative of two hot heads? I always though it was God's choice and not mine! My honor is upheld by a duel of wits...but I won't engage in one with an unarmed party.
I think Ivan summed it up best.
And here in the South the don't use dueling banjos...that's the Appalachians. Here in the South two good ol' boys face off at fifty yards on a two lane blacktop, drink their fill of 'shine, then rev those pick-um-ups and head straight for one another. The heck of it is, they're usually so drunk they walk away from two totalled trucks while their passenger(s) are usually killed.
Now ain't dueling smart?
Back to the topic at hand...imagine if Hamilton had lived. What a change our history would have had!
PARK.....................your 1:39 is about as good and concise as it gets. A tip of my boater to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To paraphrase JJ Cale; "you didn't have to write it like you did, but you did, but you did & I thank you........................"
CHEFD.......................dueling eggplants you say?................................
JANE..................where the hey-ho are you??????????????
NACHISTA & RINGS................two lovely, witty gals w/ firearms.................doesn't get better...........................
I have accomplished pretty much nothing today..............so I'm going to make some peanut butter cooke dough, I'll make extra for the clubcar only if CHEFD makes some whores-de-vores.........................mmmmmmmmm...........
It's breath may be shallow, but there is still some life in that poor horse......
Bebe..you inspired me. What say you all to a bake-off instead of a duel.
PL..................only if the winner gets a hotdog, cheeseburger, side of O'rings & a cokefloat..........................mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........................
The problem with God's will and death is that not all people believe in the same God. If your dueling partner believes in one god and you, another - how does the will of a god work, then? My god protects me and your god protects you - maybe it's a war of the gods not humans...and didn't the Greeks already write those scripts?
bebe, peterlake, food duels...my favorite! It could be like iron chef.
Rings we need to get together and shoot trap, loser buys dinner, that will probably be me I can't anything with my brother's shotgun.
When are the fencing events at the olympics? I think that is the closest thing to old fashioned duelling that a person can still legally engage in. Since I've been mulling the topic over in my spare time today, duelling really just seems like an elevated form of the Darwin awards.
Bebe--are you sayin' my de-vores are made by whores?! Maybe I need to call you out.......or MAYBE I need a peanut butter cookie!!!!!!!
PARK and nachista, you both may be correct. Who the heck wants to get into a fight anyway? Make love not war man!
O.T. Reading "Burr" by Gore Vidal was one of the most satisfying and entertaining "reads" I ever have had. It was many years ago, but I still remember how sad I was when that book ended. It was a trilogy and I read the next 2 but they were not up to the frst. Is anything ever? I think I am going to re-read.
Apologies to those of you taking this topic seriously....I just can't get there today.
Is anyone else thinking "I know something you don't know...I am not left handed!"?
Ginger, for myself I rarely get involved in arguments and go to great lengths to keep everyone happy and everything calm. But mess with my friends and family and I'll readily engage in a fight to defend someone else. Sometimes the conflict is unavoidable and you just have to do the best you can to defend those that cannot speak or act for themselves and try to end it as quickly as possible.
Chef Deb---haven't read it but heard it was wonderful. Sounds like you vote the same.
Ths subject always leads me down the path to the Steven Spielberg classic film, Duel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MtAMc4i8OA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Raise your hands if by the end of the movie you were rooting for the truck to win out over the Dennis Weaver character.
I was pulling for the truck...
CHEFD....................I am taking this topic VERY seriously................and frankly I wish you would get on the page.......................bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha..................... ( I have heard that "Burr" is a great read)..................
And then there are the Python boys.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5-JJuQJQZY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Since so many have chimed in, on both sides of the issue, with Reality declaiming one side, for sure ....... Let me remind you all that ... Most of the Fighting, in History ... was because of, over, about a woman/women .......
And History has also shown intelligent people, conclusively ... that Tolerance is the absolute WORST thing that Man can commit himself to ....... Different is one thing, and a thing that each is entitled by the Creator to be ... but when that Difference begins to harm others, in any way at all ... then it becomes Wrong .......
It we Tolerate Wrong, for Political Correctitude ... we soon appear to condone that Wrong, then it begins to appear that we approve of that Wrong, then we Promote that wrong, and eventually that Wrong becomes the Norm ... which injures and entire Nation ....... Who Answers to The Creator for THAT ???
PeterLake please water and feed the horse, so we can ride again another day!!!
Chef Deb you're too sweet!
It's not a war of the gods...men do what they do. It's God's job to have a final judgement. Why else would they say, "Kill em all, let God sort it out"?
The horse has been fed, groomed, and is now fit and eager to go wherever it wishes....
IVAN, as they say in the sweet science....'ya gotta protect yourself at all times'
CAROLBABCOCK: Are You a Viet Nam Vet ??? We developed that saying In Country because both side, even the ones we were trying to help, were shooting at us ... with our own Guns ... When we complained up thru Channels, all we got were platitudes from Liberal armchair Generals saying, "Do Not Fire Unless Fired Upon ..." "Do Your Job, But Don't Hurt Anybody ..." "Ordnance is going to issue us Real Ammunition, Next Week ... " So we just decided how to keep ourselves alive, and survive a Political Football Game that we weren't supposed to win, in the First Place ....... They all wore Black Pajamas ... they all looked and talked like VC ... ARVN included ....... Stayin' Alive was more than a Disco Tune to those of us who were there .......
No matter what the Liberal Media regurgitated into your cranial cavity ... if you were not there, you HAVE NO opinion ... Men Do What Men Must Do ... Without the beitzhem to what is Right, we'd all be speaking German by now ... or Arabic ... or Slopeanese .......
VOTE FOR THE AMERICAN ....... this time .......
I am a practical pacificist and a capitalist who thinks the whole world is a customer but as SunTzu sez the art of war teaches us to rely not on the likelihood of the enemy's not coming, but on our own readiness to receive him; not on the chance of his not attacking, but rather on the fact that we have made our position unassailable. I like cunning like with the big cats. I believe it was big cat chaser Hemingway who said you can kill me but you can't destroy me or some such. There are things worse than death such as a loss of self worth and one should build a noble legacy if only known to a few as it is wealth beyond what gold can bring. As Dumas expressed of the Musketeers "Never fear quarrels, but seek hazardous adventures....Within six months, if I am not dead, I shall have seen you again, madam--even if I have to overturn the world." I like a good quest and a woman is worth a little swordplay. Petty wars for old opportunistic fat guys trying to line their pockets and boost their egos...not so much.
So here's a questions that's been at the back of my mind...has a duel ever been fought by women over a man?
Well, not by me nachista. If he'd want me to get all cut up and hurt, I don't think he's a man I'd want. ;)
IVAN DEAR IVAN: I'M VOTING FOR THE AMERICAN, BOSS! FOOL ME ONCE, I WAS A FOOL; FOOL ME TWICE? CAN'T HAPPEN. "THE EYES OF MY EYES HAVE BEEN OPENED."
TT: what does the Practical Pacifist do if Armies with Swords and Guns are intent on destroying Capitalism?
Nach- Gee whiz you make a point. I have re-watched Cutthroat Island on one of the movie channels recently and the lovely Geena Davis as Morgan wielding a sword shows her daring and her womanly compassion. For instance she remarks, "I brim with charity. I am charity's very soul. And because I am so charitable, I will maroon you on a rock the size of this table, instead of splattering your brains across my bulkhead... as you deserve." The womanly touch donchathink?
Park4- My dear, you simply blow them to Kingdom Come. That's the practical alternative. Nation building and long term ventures are costly and rarely successful and perpetuate recurring mini-wars. I only request a clear mission and a plan for ultimate victory or it's a bad deal. Peace for me is a long term human goal that is not yet in the cards due to a lack of global individual freedom brought on by a host of enslaving institutions.
Oh man, thanks TT now I have to run right out after work and rent Cutthroat Island, I haven't seen that in ages. What ever happened to Geena Davis? Is she still acting?
All this talk of sharp point objects reminds me of 2 lines from one of my favorite tv shows.
"I think I'm getting better at this, I didn't even stab him!"
"Um...yeah...we are so proud of you, no stabbing wednesdays, it should be a new tradition"
PL...............I have never seen Duel, but for the record I could never abide Dennis Weaver as an actor. Sandy Dennis was the female equivalent of him. Get him truck, get him!
Ivan...please refer to my 2:24 post.
Bebe....I don't know why I dislike Dennis Weaver in his acting roles, but no matter what role he is in........there is just a creep factorvabout him. Like you would have to wipe your hands off on your pants if you ever shook his hand.
Forget Dennis Weaver....... Its a quarter past cheeseburger time somewhere..... 'O' rings, slaw, and a chocolate malt with a side car are waitin' in the club car..... I challenge you to a french fry eating duel.......everyone is a winner!
P.s., Correcto-mundo on Sandy Dennis. She looks to be on the verge a tears no matter what role she plays.
Didn't Geena Davis try out for the Olympic team in archery a few games ago?
TT: I like your concepts, but I am, alas, a practical dreamer. Which is probably why I get headaches: when I'm thinking practically, the dreamer part sneaks in and causes chaos in the brain. Same as when I'm dreaming, practicality thumps in and waves the dream away like it was smoke. I haven't yet figured out how to make these two states of my mind get along together or ideally, integrate themselves into one another. I think it would be an ideal existence - but until that time, it seems I'm doomed to go popping others' bubbles...So ignore me and carry on TT. I like your world.
Hi villagers, JUST WANTED TO SAY, INTERESTING POSTS. HOPE YOU ALL ARE WELL AND SMILING!!
Given today's topic I'm expecting that all those lovely tidbits served in the club car tonight will be on a skewer. En garde!!
P4- The first time I ever got on this train and there was talk of a Club Car where civilized people bounced merrily along the time space continuum and had cocktails and noshed and expressed what was on their minds, it seemed to me to be a place where dreams and logic came into in a perfect Lifetini, some with lemons, some with olives, and me those little bar onions; yet the libation was all the same, wonderfully intoxicating. You are a perfect Lifetini stirred or shaken, Cheers and Blessings from whatever good saint watches over drunks and lovers and thinkers, my favorite people.
I'm sitting on a bench waiting for the train to stop.
Olives for me, and blessings back at you TT.
ChefDeb: just snap your fingers and it will be there. Or, you could click your ruby slippers, but then I think you'll wake up in a field of opiates in a place called Oz. Better just snap. It never fails.
Snap. There. And here I am. Get a move on ChefDeb!
P4- And for you in my mind I was wearing the finest Safari outfit desgined by the Wardrobe Staff from Out of Africa and Chef Deb had something extremely enticing hidden beneath that silver lid on the ornate cart she rolled in as Buddy Rich pounded those skins.
As I finish my adult beverage and snatch the Cajun Chicken from the grill, I remind myself that tomorrow this old ham will audition for Alice in Wonderland. To grossly paraphrase Mr. Caine, I'm an unskilled actor with dime store passion. Whether or not I've any talent is beside the point. Hoping for a hundred posts by the witching hour. Why the hell not?
Chocolate duels? I don't care how,just YESSS
"Wait for me Mr. Dillon, wait for me..."
"Did I fire all my bullets?...feel lucky,Punk?"
Was it Dirty Harry? "A man should know his limitations!"
I like the quotation about fighting that involves the tiger and saving your arm....
Famous Quotes about Fights and Fighting (19 Quotations)
Acts of kindness may soon be forgotten, but the memory of an offense remains.
Proverb
Fighting is like champagne. It goes to the heads of cowards as quickly as of heroes. Any fool can be brave on a battlefield when it's be brave or else be killed.
Margaret Mitchell
He who attacks must vanquish. He who defends must merely survive.
Master Kahn
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
Friedrich Nietzsche
I have not yet begun to fight.
John Paul Jones
I will fight for my children on any level so they can reach their potential as human beings and in their public duties.
Princess of Wales Diana
I'm not going to get into the ring with Tolstoy.
Ernest Hemingway
If you are losing a tug-of-war with a tiger, give him the rope before he gets to your arm. You can always buy a new rope.
Max Gunther
In the fight between you and the world, back the world.
Paul Dirac
Let him that is without stone among you cast the first thing he can lay his hands on.
Robert Frost
"Why, I'd horse whip you, if I had a horse" Groucho
To which Marie "The Body MacDonald " said to Groucho ....... "Promises, Promises ..."
Onions for me Tommy, with just a drop of Italian Vermouth in my Finlandia Vodka ........
Unless you wanna borrow my Atomizer, and just one quick spritz across the top of the Glass, like I do ... Likem Dry .......
A cup of Macadamia Nuts somewhere near by ... or a tray of Triscuits with just a schmear of Macadamia Nut Butter on each one ....... Health-Food helps to preclude a Hangover ... and three Aspirin with about 1200mg of ThiamineHydrochloride for Breakfast, just BEFORE going to bed .......
MARvelous .......
TT~ I'll have the Greygoose, and make it double dirty please ;) I vote for the dueling maritinis! A new and improved deliverance
Dueling martinis! What a marvelous idea! Although it does put me in mind of a terrible Dear Abby column item that went something like this:
"Dear Abby,
How can I get my husband to stop embarassing me in bars? When we go out he always orders a martini with two olives. When it arrives he takes the olives and snorts the pimentos up his nostrils.
How can I make him stop?"
I don't remember how Abby replied, but I would have sealed his nose with super glue before going out!
nachista, I get what you are saying, and I would (and have/do) defend the innocent. I worked the WTC and believe me, if I got my hands on those responsible I would personally execute them in the worst way possible. No arguments from anyone, please. You had to have been there.
And Ivan, I supported the Vietnam Vets back when it wasn't cool to do so. Go get 'em my friend!
Peter Lake--Yes, Geena did. I think she might have even made it, I really don't remember. What an Amazon she would have made! Throw in Sigorney Weaver and you've got a pair of 'em!
And I think it was Ghandi that said "No one can harm me without my permission."