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Remember the guys with the beards and the girls with short-cropped hair, who sat until the wee small hours in coffee shops, discussing the meaningless of life?

Existentialism.

Which now seems to be returning, from being and nothingness.


For the uninitiated, Existentialism goes back 100 years to Sören Kierkegaard, the lonely Danish theologian who was obsessed by the one tragic question: How is human existence possible?

In the face of the 19th Century's positivism that arrogantly asserted the triumph of man, he had the tragic answer:

“…Man exists not as an individual but only as an irrelevant member of a species; in eternity it is only the individual who exists, without society, in ultimate loneliness…with only God as salvation.”

1927. German Philosopher Martin Heidegger says in “Being and Time,” that “man’s understanding of this nothingness leads him to choose the only unconditioned and insurmountable possibility that belongs to him: death.”

(You can understand why Shakespeare’s light comedies were in such demand then.)

Friedrich Neitzsche killed off God, in only three words: “God is dead.” And sees the necessity for the emergence of a Superman or Overman to save us all.

While Kierkegaard evoked God, Neitzsche replaced God. Jean Paul Sartre, the diminutive pipe-smoking Frenchman who almost singlehandledly kept existentialism alive, concluded God is irrelevant, and us humans are relevant only if we do something relevant.

“Man is free to act, but he must act to be free. If he fails to choose a social or political line of action, he is not a Being; he is Nothingness."

And if you want to get at Sartre’s self-acknowledged essence there is, "You are your life and nothing else," which was said by a figure in his play, “Huis Clos.” Better known to American audiences, as "No Exit." (Just make sure there is an exit in the theater you're seeing it in.)

Delmore Schwartz, the American poet, said it somewhat differently. “Existentialism means that no one else can take a bath for you.”

And Popeye probably nailed it, when he said, “I am what I am.”

Albert Camus, who wanted to be known as a thinker not an Existentialist, contributed, “I rebel, therefore we exist.” (I’m glad he included us in the discussion.)

So...are we doomed to a nihilistic existence of being and nothingness? Does life have any purpose? Is man one of God’s blunders? Or is God one of man’s blunders. Is hope dead? Are we still worthy even if we don’t reform anything but ourselves? Is taking out the garbage meaningful? Is anything?

Put your existentialist hats on—we’re about to have an existential discussion. Don’t worry, we’ll talk each other through it.

J. Peterman

 

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June 21, 2012 12:07 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

esse est percipi

June 21, 2012 12:09 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 lotlot said...

Is the guy at the top thinking:

"Wonder what I should wear today?"

June 21, 2012 3:46 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Haha! lotlot. I think the guy needs a laxative.

June 21, 2012 3:53 AM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

More from rainy Wales after my anti-depressants have kicked in.

June 21, 2012 7:34 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

Fascinating topic, and here I am stuck with lots of grass and a tractor that has no umbrella.....

June 21, 2012 7:54 AM
P8041286 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300First-comFirst-photoHr-1 IvyGailWinds said...

Excellance...divine....existentialism.....Achieve Excellance...to the uptmost highest level...EXIST....**Posted pictures on community page, of the Allegheny Ludlum Steel Production building,******* just being built......Invest in Steel Millworkers....Steel .... is a manufactured fabric....Bert, always remember to practice Tractor Safety!

June 21, 2012 8:25 AM
Com-100First-com Carolbabcock said...

I think.
Men live in am and women live in is.

June 21, 2012 8:38 AM
The_philosophy_tommy_typical_bookcover 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

"Make yourself a baby and hold one" Flo & Eddie suggested and while I am a lover of philosophy, I have learned as much from children and observing the natural world as any book and adhere to Kierkegaard's mystical individual quest approach to Christianity. The invincible summer of Camus prompts me to not overthink. My childhood revelation of "Relax You Are Eternal" keeps me centered.

June 21, 2012 9:07 AM
Com-100First-com Carolbabcock said...

I love that Tommy!
When my son says he loves me more, to infinity and beyond, I always tell him I'll catch him on the backside of infinity!

June 21, 2012 10:33 AM
Img00274-20110613-1309 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 l marjorie said...

Pretty heavy topic. I like to keep it simple.  I live to eat?  I eat to live?  I think both apply. Enjoy every day and follow the Golden Rule.  As far as God goes, I don't think we have a clue as to what he/she is up to.  But we seem to have a glimpse of something wonderful beyond our understanding so we keep trying to figure it out. I have a lot of respect and admiration for holy people, but, I keep it simple... 

June 21, 2012 10:42 AM
Atticus_1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Bert said...

Thanks, Seapansie, cautionary words are always a good thing. Keep remembering the competing bumper sticker humor: "God is dead." - Nietsche. "Nietsche is dead." - god. Perhaps there are interpetations less conflicting that reconcile man's frustration with why bad things happen to good people. It seems frustrating yet completly consistent that god isn't dead, but merely silent. Perhaps we are placed on this planet as sort of a test, to see how we measure up when given freedom to do good or evil, freedom to believe or disbelieve that man has a spiritual dimension linked to an entity we call "god." Faith is hard to swallow in times of crisis. Perhaps unselfish love is actually the thing that we all are given the freedom to either accept or reject. It's easier to act out this unconditional undemanding love in relationship to our children or our "significant other," but much harder to turn the other cheek and sacrifice without expectation of reward regarding strangers or even enemies. If I ever fulfill my fantasy & become the 1st lawyer to ever "make the cut" and enter heaven's pearly gates, I've got an awful lot of unanswered questions in need of answers.

June 21, 2012 11:03 AM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


"Faith is hard to swallow in times of crisis." ???
Well, fake faith probably is.

June 21, 2012 11:31 AM
Bwme 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 nachista said...

"Well, fake faith probably is."  Agreed Stoney.
 
I think therefore I am...I think too many people are leaving out the first half of that sentiment and only worry about the last half.  I don't watch much TV anymore because a lot of the shows and almost all of the advertisments remind me of the seagulls from Finding Nemo "mineMINEmineMINEmineMINEmine".

June 21, 2012 11:43 AM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

 


 ... COGITO,  ERGO  ARMATUM  SUM .......

June 21, 2012 12:33 PM
Img_0144 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

I yam, therefore I yam.........now it is about time to try to become part of something more relevant than that, instead of just pondering about it

'be good'....E.T.

June 21, 2012 1:17 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

Pretend I posted Monty Python's "The Philosopher's Song."

June 21, 2012 1:32 PM
Img_0144 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

ChefDeb....i did and it was as funny as the first time i saw it....

June 21, 2012 1:36 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

When I was 8/9 years old, I had a plank nailed across two branches that seemed high up a tree where I could sit and read and think  existentialist thoughts. I'd come indoors and ask Dad and he'd say 'How long is a piece of string?' Grandpa was even worse - his answer to imponderables was 'It's the same colour as a mouses fart'.

June 21, 2012 1:43 PM
First-com Anam Cara said...

I think. therefore I am! Pick a flower fresh from the garden and ask yourself if man could ever create THAT! Every day that I breathe, I thank my creator for giving me the life that he has and every night I thank him for having given me yet another day to live through.    Happiness is found in so may small things but it's up to us to decide who the bestower is for such a gift.    With that I wish blessings and happiness on all the "villagers"                                                                 Slainte

June 21, 2012 1:43 PM
First-com Anam Cara said...

I think. therefore I am! Pick a flower fresh from the garden and ask yourself if man could ever create THAT! Every day that I breathe, I thank my creator for giving me the life that he has and every night I thank him for having given me yet another day to live through.    Happiness is found in so may small things but it's up to us to decide who the bestower is for such a gift.    With that I wish blessings and happiness on all the "villagers"                                                                 Slainte

June 21, 2012 1:43 PM
First-com Anam Cara said...

I think. therefore I am! Pick a flower fresh from the garden and ask yourself if man could ever create THAT! Every day that I breathe, I thank my creator for giving me the life that he has and every night I thank him for having given me yet another day to live through.    Happiness is found in so may small things but it's up to us to decide who the bestower is for such a gift.    With that I wish blessings and happiness on all the "villagers"                                                                 Slainte

June 21, 2012 1:45 PM
First-com Anam Cara said...

Whoops! Did I get my thoughts across? HA HA!! Want one more time? *wink*

June 21, 2012 1:59 PM
4244 Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 ChefDeb said...

STONEY & PL---thank you Gentlemen

HAZEL--my father's strongest denigration was "Why did you get the mousefart size?" Mousefart, mousefart, mousefart...grew up with it & forgot it! Thanks for the laugh.

June 21, 2012 2:39 PM
10photoviewsFirst-comFirst-photo SkyWalker said...

Stoney - exactly so!

June 21, 2012 2:45 PM
28961 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1 Ummgawa said...

God is good all the time. I only speak from my personal observations.

June 21, 2012 2:47 PM
Img_0144 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

Sheriff Stoney, you out drew me again and got the girl.....dadgummit your fast!

June 21, 2012 2:49 PM
Img_0144 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

Anam Cara, well said and thank you. Best of wishes your way.

June 21, 2012 2:53 PM
Img_0144 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

I think The Thinker is wondering were he left his car keys, cell phone, wallet, and why he woke up naked outside of the Bowling Alley with a new tattoo on his back side......

June 21, 2012 3:03 PM
Com-100Com-300Com-500First-comHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 hazel leese said...

Peter!!! I just snorted coffee all over my keyboard. Thank goodness for super-absorbent kitchen paper stuff. Some of your posts should come with a warning.

June 21, 2012 3:03 PM
Img_0144 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

As pfar as the answer to the ultimate question, it is of course....42. So breath easy and enjoy yourself. A great burden has been lifted from us all.

June 21, 2012 3:36 PM
Bwme 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 nachista said...

Peter Lake, who hasn't had that morning after experience?  ;)

June 21, 2012 3:38 PM
Bwme 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 nachista said...

The only way you know it was a REALLY good party is if you wake up on a coush in a strange house and have random things scrawled on your skin in sharpie and have no idea what the writings mean or who's house you're at, but at least you aren't the poor sod with the permanent marker on his forehead passed out in the bathroom/backporch/front yard/etc.

June 21, 2012 3:39 PM
Bwme 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 nachista said...

*ahem* not that I would know from personal experience *hands in pocket, walking away slowly, whistling*

June 21, 2012 3:50 PM
Com-100First-comHr-1 smilesforever said...

God is good (although I may not agree with Her all the time) Life is good, I exist and have short cropped hair, therefore I AM.  And pretty darned happy about it, as well.  Have a wonderful day, and a beautiful life!!!

June 21, 2012 3:50 PM
Img00274-20110613-1309 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 l marjorie said...

I always like waking up after a party in my own bed with my husband beside me.  After the initial "Uh oh, I think I may have had a little too much fun last night", I can relax because I know he had my back and all is well.

June 21, 2012 3:54 PM
Com-100First-comHr-1 smilesforever said...

Aren't husbands great like that!!??

June 21, 2012 4:08 PM
Bwme 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 nachista said...

I marjorie, I agree, I like waking up in my own bed as well but the husband isn't an option.  I don't really party anymore, in fact when I did go out I was usually the one in the kitchen or hanging out on the back steps...or the one with the sharpie writing on the folks who had passed out.  Then I gather them up and drive them home.  I was like a den mother but for drunks, and strangely enough I'm ok with being the uncool one if it means not waking up in a pool of gross fluid.

June 21, 2012 4:18 PM
Img00274-20110613-1309 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-5 l marjorie said...

Nachista, sometimes a cat or dog is better than a husband anyway.  And being uncool is very cool!  I don't party like I used to, but sometimes the wine gets flowing and it all feels so good (until the next morning, ugh!)

June 21, 2012 4:24 PM
Stage_2 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 JALOPKIN said...

Some people should be aware ....... that Lightning ricochets ..............

June 21, 2012 5:03 PM
Bwme 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 nachista said...

Haha I marjorie, you haven't met my dog Molly, she's a 90lb clutzy lab mix who thinks she's a lap dog.  After Mike left I had her sleep on the bed with me the first night, she pawed me in the face and when I woke up I had 2 big scratches and a bruise on my right cheek.  So she sleeps in her bed and I sleep in mine.  I know what you mean about parties...sometimes you just need to have a good time and relax but I can't stay up and play the way I did 10 years ago.

June 21, 2012 5:40 PM
Bwme 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 nachista said...

For some reason the Patty Loveless song "I Think About Elvis" is running through my mind.

June 21, 2012 6:43 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

I've just spent 3 hours in the dentist's office, 3 hours of nitrous oxide coursing through my system.  Whee. The good news is I can still think, but the bad news is, I'm not sure I am.   And I just looked in the mirror and my upper lip and nose is swollen, and I now resemble Daffy Duck.  Existentialize that.

June 21, 2012 7:03 PM
Img_0144 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

Sorry Northsider. If it is any consolation, i bet you look more like Daisey Duck but you feel like Daffy. I hope when the Daffy gas wears off......you will not feel any pain.

You should be able to get an ice cream treat at least from this ordeal. Hope you feel great soon!

June 21, 2012 7:09 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...


Then there's this from a very wise young girl, and existentist angst seems silly put up against her beautiful, unwavering optimism.                   

"'As long as this exists," I thought, "and I may live to see it, this sunshine, the cloudless skies, while this lasts, I cannot be unhappy.'" The best remedy for those who are afraid, lonely or unhappy is to go outside, somewhere where they can be quite alone with the heavens, nature, and God. Because only then does one feel that all is as it should be and that God wishes to see people happy, amidst the simple beauty of nature. As long as this exists, and it certainly always will, I  know that then there will always be comfort for every sorrow, whatever the circumstances may be. And I firmly believe that nature brings solace  in all troubles."

"As long as this exists..." by Anne Frank, excerpt from The Diary of a Young Girl.   
 

June 21, 2012 7:09 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...


Then there's this from a very wise young girl, and existentist angst seems silly put up against her beautiful, unwavering optimism.                   

"'As long as this exists," I thought, "and I may live to see it, this sunshine, the cloudless skies, while this lasts, I cannot be unhappy.'" The best remedy for those who are afraid, lonely or unhappy is to go outside, somewhere where they can be quite alone with the heavens, nature, and God. Because only then does one feel that all is as it should be and that God wishes to see people happy, amidst the simple beauty of nature. As long as this exists, and it certainly always will, I  know that then there will always be comfort for every sorrow, whatever the circumstances may be. And I firmly believe that nature brings solace  in all troubles."

"As long as this exists..." by Anne Frank, excerpt from The Diary of a Young Girl.   
 

June 21, 2012 7:09 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...


Then there's this from a very wise young girl, and existentist angst seems silly put up against her beautiful, unwavering optimism.                   

"'As long as this exists," I thought, "and I may live to see it, this sunshine, the cloudless skies, while this lasts, I cannot be unhappy.'" The best remedy for those who are afraid, lonely or unhappy is to go outside, somewhere where they can be quite alone with the heavens, nature, and God. Because only then does one feel that all is as it should be and that God wishes to see people happy, amidst the simple beauty of nature. As long as this exists, and it certainly always will, I  know that then there will always be comfort for every sorrow, whatever the circumstances may be. And I firmly believe that nature brings solace  in all troubles."

"As long as this exists..." by Anne Frank, excerpt from The Diary of a Young Girl.   
 

June 21, 2012 7:10 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...


Then there's this from a very wise young girl, and existentist angst seems silly put up against her beautiful, unwavering optimism.                   

"'As long as this exists," I thought, "and I may live to see it, this sunshine, the cloudless skies, while this lasts, I cannot be unhappy.'" The best remedy for those who are afraid, lonely or unhappy is to go outside, somewhere where they can be quite alone with the heavens, nature, and God. Because only then does one feel that all is as it should be and that God wishes to see people happy, amidst the simple beauty of nature. As long as this exists, and it certainly always will, I  know that then there will always be comfort for every sorrow, whatever the circumstances may be. And I firmly believe that nature brings solace  in all troubles."

"As long as this exists..." by Anne Frank, excerpt from The Diary of a Young Girl.   
 

June 21, 2012 7:10 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...


Then there's this from a very wise young girl, and existentist angst seems silly put up against her beautiful, unwavering optimism.                   

"'As long as this exists," I thought, "and I may live to see it, this sunshine, the cloudless skies, while this lasts, I cannot be unhappy.'" The best remedy for those who are afraid, lonely or unhappy is to go outside, somewhere where they can be quite alone with the heavens, nature, and God. Because only then does one feel that all is as it should be and that God wishes to see people happy, amidst the simple beauty of nature. As long as this exists, and it certainly always will, I  know that then there will always be comfort for every sorrow, whatever the circumstances may be. And I firmly believe that nature brings solace  in all troubles."

"As long as this exists..." by Anne Frank, excerpt from The Diary of a Young Girl.   
 

June 21, 2012 7:11 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Cripes.

June 21, 2012 7:18 PM
Cover_9350427 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 PARK4 said...

Thank you PL!  And I think I'm beginning to feel my upper lip, I can't tell you how nice that feels.  We take our upper lips for granted a lot, but we really shouldn't.  They're nice to have and to be able to use, without them eating anything or drinking anything even ice cream or milk shakes, well, it just can't be done without being able to pucker.  I'm sure my face will return from its present state to normal some day.  Unless this is my new normal oh no.   Did I mention I still feel a little nitrous-y?;)

June 21, 2012 8:04 PM
The_philosophy_tommy_typical_bookcover 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Oh Mr. Bu, those tales of ordinary madness:"that’s ONE thing that’s wrong with intellectuals and writers – they don’t feel a hell of a lot except their own comfort or their own pain. which is normal but shitty.” yawsuh..."if you don’t have much soul left and you know it, you still got soul.” NADA is NASA without a Mission or Funding.

June 21, 2012 8:06 PM
The_philosophy_tommy_typical_bookcover 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Statue of Alec Baldwin sans Photographer?

June 21, 2012 9:22 PM
10photoviewsCom-100Com-300First-comFirst-photoFirst-review magicangel said...

Wow, I just read all of your posts, some interesting stuff. I loved Anne Franks sotry and I totally agree. Think of this, we make our reality by what we think, so..I think therefore I am. It certainly goes deepter that that, but you all said it all beautifully. Thanks for the mind gynmastics, it ended my day nicely!

June 21, 2012 10:04 PM
The_philosophy_tommy_typical_bookcover 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Tommy Typical said...

Just watched Ride the Wild Surf. Beach Blanket Bingo to follow on TCM. Campy Retro Nostalgia. Sometimes it doesn't have to be good to be great! Or on topic- Fun often has no real meaning other than it is- popcorn please...

June 21, 2012 10:40 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

Beer is Gods way of showing He loves us....Yes, you can exist without beer, bit why?

June 21, 2012 11:12 PM
Img_0144 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Peter Lake said...

If all such questions were solved with an answer that was satisfactory to all who may wonder, what then.........and why...

June 21, 2012 11:20 PM
4224 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-reviewFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 RoadYacht said...

And....WHY NOT?

June 21, 2012 11:28 PM
Penn_station1 10photoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Penn said...

This topic makes my head hurt.  Rodin, may I have some asprin please?

June 22, 2012 12:35 PM
408 10photoviews10videoviewsCom-100Com-300Com-500First-comFirst-photoFirst-videoHr-1Hr-10Hr-5 Stoney said...


Penn ~

Agreed. Angels, pinheads and too many one and two letter pronouns.

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